Is the Media Biased?

[lukin]

For the past several weeks we have been bombarded with many anti-Conservative stories with regards to the Afghan detainee issue. This week it has been revealed that the Liberals were guilty of what they are accusing the Conservatives of doing. I could only find one place to read about this; the CBC website of all places. However, it didn't take very long for it to be removed from the front page. Last night on the "At Issue" panel on The National, there wasn't a mention of this story, as the Rahim Jaffer story was much too "important" to not discuss in great detail. One of the main reasons I am not a member of the Liberal Party anymore is because I woke up and realized how biased the Canadian media is towards the Conservatives. I find it quite sickening. If anyone thinks that the Canadian media gives the CPC fair coverage, I would have to call that person extremely blind with limited capacity to think rationally.

[M.Dancer]

No...the choice is either to follow the story or not follow the story..one of those choices, as long as the story is raised in the House, would be evident of bias.

Columnists of course are biased. They are supposewd to be.

[eyeball]

You either support Canada's involvement in this war or you don't and it's clear both of these party's acted to drag Canada into it. In that light there's little if any difference between Liberals and Conservatives.

As for media bias, I'd say its mostly biased towards making money. There's obviously more money to be made slagging the party in power than opposition.

[Moonlight Graham]

You either support Canada's involvement in this war or you don't and it's clear both of these party's acted to drag Canada into it. In that light there's little if any difference between Liberals and Conservatives.

Ya right. The Liberals stuck 500 troops in there to follow NATO, not exactly a rousing sign of enthusiasm. Upon defeat of the Liberals the CPC was very quick to send 4x as many troops over there and put them in the most dangerous area of the country. One would be foolish to think there isn't an ideological difference between the parties. The CPC is also ruling with a minority, which tugs them hard to the center in order get legislation passed.

[Topaz]

If you search online for the Canadians ambassadors in Afghanistan, you find that Harper appointed Arif Lalani and David Mulroney when the torturing was suppose to happen. (At least on Harper`s watch) I`ve read where the Tories changed the exchange of prisoners from the US to the Afghans and this would have been under Lalani. I`ve read that he told people under him especially Mulroney NOT to write things down concerning the torturing of prisoners. We also have O`Connor the head of the Defense and McKay for Foreign Affairs. O`Connor, I believe, was relying on the people of Defence to feed him info. and alot of times in Parliament he didn`t know what was going on.(just another guy there for the pension). I don`t think the media is biased, I think they should go after any government were there is a hint of coverup, just like they did with the Libs. Only way to keep governments in line.

[capricorn]

I`ve read that he told people under him especially Mulroney NOT to write things down concerning the torturing of prisoners.

Where did you read this? Do you have a link? You say you read a lot of things but you don't provide links.

[Alta4ever]

If you search online for the Canadians ambassadors in Afghanistan, you find that Harper appointed Arif Lalani and David Mulroney when the torturing was suppose to happen. (At least on Harper`s watch) I`ve read where the Tories changed the exchange of prisoners from the US to the Afghans and this would have been under Lalani.

This was actually done by the Martin government. The Tories changed the agreement it 2007 when the allegations first came out.

[waldo]

This was actually done by the Martin government. The Tories changed the agreement it 2007 when the allegations first came out.

typical Conservative response that refuses to accept responsibility on any level. The Liberals have called for a full inquiry - one that also includes the Canadian Forces-Afghanistan negotiation phase that occurred during Liberal governance. Your curt dismissive response clearly denies the years period of Harper Conservative inaction and delay after initial allegations first surfaced. Really... c'mon... if the Harper Conservatives have no complicity, no responsibility, no accountability, what's the problem in releasing the related documentation to Parliament (committee level)?

[eyeball]

Ya right. The Liberals stuck 500 troops in there to follow NATO, not exactly a rousing sign of enthusiasm. Upon defeat of the Liberals the CPC was very quick to send 4x as many troops over there and put them in the most dangerous area of the country. One would be foolish to think there isn't an ideological difference between the parties. The CPC is also ruling with a minority, which tugs them hard to the center in order get legislation passed.

The ideological difference is obvious enough but I don't think that had anywhere near as much to do with why we went.

The Liberals weren't trying to suck up to NATO they were trying to stay ahead of the Conservatives in the polls. The Liberal's most disgusting feature bar none is their fear of being seen as soft on whatever it is the Conservatives want to be seen as being tough on. This feed back loop is inexorably making Canada a more right-wing country over time. I won't be surprised in the least if we finally become a police state.

[Alta4ever]

typical Conservative response that refuses to accept responsibility on any level. The Liberals have called for a full inquiry - one that also includes the Canadian Forces-Afghanistan negotiation phase that occurred during Liberal governance. Your curt dismissive response clearly denies the years period of Harper Conservative inaction and delay after initial allegations first surfaced. Really... c'mon... if the Harper Conservatives have no complicity, no responsibility, no accountability, what's the problem in releasing the related documentation to Parliament (committee level)?

What you have a problem with facts being corrected?

[Alta4ever]

I won't be surprised in the least if we finally become a police state.

And why would you think small c conservatives would want this? Its seems to me these types want less government not more hence the fight over the gun registry.

[waldo]

What you have a problem with facts being corrected?

obviously not - I will take any and every opening you provide to highlight the unwillingness for the current governing party, the Harper Conservative party, to accept responsibility... in this case for their inaction and delay in responding to the allegations. Of course, Conservative's assumed/proclaimed lack of responsibility contradicts their continued expressed need to cover-up... or are you suggesting Harper Conservatives are refusing to release documentation so as to protect Liberal wrong doing?

[Alta4ever]

obviously not - I will take any and every opening you provide to highlight the unwillingness for the current governing party, the Harper Conservative party, to accept responsibility... in this case for their inaction and delay in responding to the allegations. Of course, Conservative's assumed/proclaimed lack of responsibility contradicts their continued expressed need to cover-up... or are you suggesting Harper Conservatives are refusing to release documentation so as to protect Liberal wrong doing?

I think we were through this once before

[eyeball]

And why would you think small c conservatives would want this? Its seems to me these types want less government not more hence the fight over the gun registry.

They may want a smaller government but they clearly also want it to have more power.

A ton of feathers versus a ton of lead is still a ton. It's still going to hurt just as much if it falls on you.

[Alta4ever]

They may want a smaller government but they clearly also want it to have more power.

I have seen nothing from true small c conservatives that show they want it to have more power.

They want smaller government with less government intrusion that would be a reduction in government power not an increase. In fact most coversvatives would prefer a negative "bill of rights" then the charter of rights because these lay out what a government can not do it limits a governments ability to enact creeping increases in power over individuals.

[waldo]

I have seen nothing from true small c conservatives that show they want it to have more power.

and just where have you observed this most rare and endangered politico type, the 'small c conservative'?

[Alta4ever]

and just where have you observed this most rare and endangered politico type, the 'small c conservative'?

I live in a province full of them.

[Smallc]

Yeah right. The province with he second biggest government in the country .

[waldo]

and just where have you observed this most rare and endangered politico type, the 'small c conservative'?

I live in a province full of them.

soooo confusing... I thought the lack of demonstrated small c conservatism in Alberta was the driver behind Wild Rose. If you're, as you say, full of them - what's the driver(s) behind the Wild Rose?

[Alta4ever]

soooo confusing... I thought the lack of demonstrated small c conservatism in Alberta was the driver behind Wild Rose. If you're, as you say, full of them - what's the driver(s) behind the Wild Rose?

You are confusing the pc government with the people. Why do you think the WAP has had such an upswing? They have become a credible small c conservative choice. the Pc's have lost any semblance of conservatism and are now acting in a knee jerk reaction to try to get it back.

[M.Dancer]

Upon defeat of the Liberals the CPC was very quick to send 4x as many troops over there and put them in the most dangerous area of the country.

Try again. The khandahar deployment was under the Liberals.

[eyeball]

I have seen nothing from true small c conservatives that show they want it to have more power.

They want smaller government with less government intrusion that would be a reduction in government power not an increase.

I don't believe you and even if I did so what? You small c conservatives can't get anywhere without your big C conservative cousins so you sell out your principles to them at election time in hopes they'll throw a few bones your way.

The government might shrink in size but I'm quite certain the power of the state would merely become concentrated wherever it weighs heaviest on the backs of the people. I have seen little from conservatives but calls for more police powers, more random searches, less judicial discretion, longer sentences, more prisons, increased powers of surveillance, more security certificates, bigger armies, etc etc.

Of course the center is so scared of being seen as soft on this crap that they institute it themselves and we end up with a mutually assured dictatorship and the government just gets bigger and bigger and bigger.

In fact most coversvatives would prefer a negative "bill of rights" then the charter of rights because these lay out what a government can not do it limits a governments ability to enact creeping increases in power over individuals.

Yeah I can just imagine how that would turn out, God would be our head of state and welfare a crime against humanity.