charter.rights Posted February 25, 2010 Report Posted February 25, 2010 Oh, how scientific . Ask a lazy question - get a lazy answer. The POINT is that co-operation between the RCMP and the FBI is substantial. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
Smallc Posted February 25, 2010 Report Posted February 25, 2010 The POINT is that co-operation between the RCMP and the FBI is substantial. Yes it is...on shared issues. The examples that Dancer gave aren't shared issues. Quote
M.Dancer Posted February 25, 2010 Report Posted February 25, 2010 Kahnawake is not Akwesasne. Different places. I thought we were talking about mohawks... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
charter.rights Posted February 25, 2010 Report Posted February 25, 2010 I thought we were talking about mohawks... I guess you don't know how to read. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
Shwa Posted February 26, 2010 Report Posted February 26, 2010 National myth is all fine and dandy, but when they want to travel to Germany, they need either a US or Canadian passport. The lacrosse team used one or the other, or more exactly, a US passport, ergo, it is a US lacrosse team made up of ethnics. Nope. You still don't get it. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted February 26, 2010 Report Posted February 26, 2010 Nope. You still don't get it. So they don't need passports to travel? Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Shwa Posted February 26, 2010 Report Posted February 26, 2010 So they don't need passports to travel? ...it is a US lacrosse team made up of ethnics. You don't get it either. Quote
M.Dancer Posted February 26, 2010 Report Posted February 26, 2010 Nope. You still don't get it. Oh I get it all right. I just ain't buying it. Neither do the Selective Services of the US which requires Native americans to register. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted February 26, 2010 Report Posted February 26, 2010 I guess you don't know how to read. That's the big difference between me and you. You guess. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
charter.rights Posted February 26, 2010 Report Posted February 26, 2010 That's the big difference between me and you. You guess. No. There is a bigger difference than that. I don't live under bridges and throw rocks at passers by. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
M.Dancer Posted February 26, 2010 Report Posted February 26, 2010 No. There is a bigger difference than that. I don't live under bridges and throw rocks at passers by. Oh gosh you're ever so clever in your own mind... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
charter.rights Posted February 26, 2010 Report Posted February 26, 2010 Oh gosh you're ever so clever in your own mind... Told you. If you had a brain you might have figured out the Iroquois Nationals, by now. Instead, true to usual and natural form all you have is ad hominem and straw man rhetoric. Such a waste of little manhood. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
Shwa Posted February 26, 2010 Report Posted February 26, 2010 Oh I get it all right... I just ain't buying it. Neither do the Selective Services of the US which requires Native americans to register. Your getting it or "buying it" is completely inconsequential. And you still don't get it. Quote
M.Dancer Posted February 26, 2010 Report Posted February 26, 2010 (edited) Your getting it or "buying it" is completely inconsequential. And you still don't get it. Incinsequential are claims of sovereignty which have no weight. Lets see....address of the US Lacrosse team Iroquois Nationals Lacrosse Board of Directors PO Box 233 Onondaga Nation Nedrow, New York 13120 Funny how a nations address is in....a US state. Lets see....how many foreign diplomatic missions are there in Mohawk land... Zero How many nations recognise Mohawk sovereignty and have exchanged credentials Zero Date of membership to the UN ....nope I could go on....Mohawks commit crimes on Mohawk land...land in US or Canadain legal system. Mohawk police receive there training and authority via Quebec...Mohawk Postal services...nope... I will grant you, the Mohawks do control the gambling and hookers... Edited February 26, 2010 by M.Dancer Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Oleg Bach Posted February 26, 2010 Report Posted February 26, 2010 Some natives hate some white people because some white people are ass holes..and disrespectful- respect is the mutual transfere of power..If you disempower me then I will strike out even at your lowest members in symbolic retaliation---and if you are on my reserve I will engage in useless but satisfying spite. Quote
Shwa Posted March 1, 2010 Report Posted March 1, 2010 Incinsequential are claims of sovereignty which have no weight. Lets see....address of the US Lacrosse team Iroquois Nationals Lacrosse Board of Directors PO Box 233– Onondaga Nation Nedrow, New York 13120 Funny how a nations address is in....a US state. Lets see....how many foreign diplomatic missions are there in Mohawk land... Zero How many nations recognise Mohawk sovereignty and have exchanged credentials Zero Date of membership to the UN ....nope I could go on....Mohawks commit crimes on Mohawk land...land in US or Canadain legal system. Mohawk police receive there training and authority via Quebec...Mohawk Postal services...nope... I will grant you, the Mohawks do control the gambling and hookers... Let's see if you get it: ... Nope. You still don't get it. Which, at this point, is not surprising. Quote
Moonbox Posted March 1, 2010 Report Posted March 1, 2010 Let's see if you get it: ... Nope. You still don't get it. Which, at this point, is not surprising. As far as clever retorts go, this fails miserably. Not that we were expecting much though.... Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Shwa Posted March 1, 2010 Report Posted March 1, 2010 As far as clever retorts go, this fails miserably. Not that we were expecting much though.... I'll keep this in mind for the future. But thanks for your input. I really appreciate it. Sometimes it is hard to tell whether something will go over well or not, or the tone might not be spot on, etc. But your intelligent well-meaning reply has clarified all of that. You are a credit to the Internet. I look forward to more of your insightful views. Keep up the good work Moonbox! Quote
Moonbox Posted March 1, 2010 Report Posted March 1, 2010 I'll keep this in mind for the future. But thanks for your input. I really appreciate it. Sometimes it is hard to tell whether something will go over well or not, or the tone might not be spot on, etc. But your intelligent well-meaning reply has clarified all of that. You are a credit to the Internet. I look forward to more of your insightful views. Keep up the good work Moonbox! Let's see...your last 4-5 posts have been: "You don't get it." Unfortunately for you, this hasn't advanced the discussion forward an inch, nor has it helped you prove your point. Sadly, "You don't get it" doesn't work any better here than it does on your parents. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Mr.Canada Posted March 1, 2010 Report Posted March 1, 2010 The people who argue this type of thing have nothing to back them up at all. These obscure documunets they like to quote do nothing as it's obvious no government recognizes them. So they resort to mud slinging, strawmen and ad hominem, sadly all of these miss their mark considerably. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Shwa Posted March 1, 2010 Report Posted March 1, 2010 Let's see...your last 4-5 posts have been: "You don't get it." Unfortunately for you, this hasn't advanced the discussion forward an inch, nor has it helped you prove your point. Sadly, "You don't get it" doesn't work any better here than it does on your parents. Oh, I see what you mean. Right. I suppose my responses to a particular poster, who clearly demonstrated a lack, was supposed to "advance the discussion forward." I can see that my responses to this specific user did not do that. I'll keep that in mind for the future when I post. Thanks for pointing this out, it really helps. Keep up the good work! You are making the Internet a better place for everyone! Quote
Shwa Posted March 1, 2010 Report Posted March 1, 2010 These obscure documunets they like to quote do nothing as it's obvious no government recognizes them. You mean like the treaties right? Quote
charter.rights Posted March 1, 2010 Report Posted March 1, 2010 You mean like the treaties right? Of course I have provided reams of documents, references and maps that clearly make my position, and Mr. Canada simply comes (once again) with his denial. He has no refutation and is the one that more often than not comes with straw man, hyperbole and ad hominen as his only arguments. I wouldn't waste your time with him. Sycophants like Mr. Canada simply use these kinds of forums to soothe their low self-esteem. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
Moonbox Posted March 1, 2010 Report Posted March 1, 2010 He has no refutation and is the one that more often than not comes with straw man, hyperbole and ad hominen as his only arguments................... I wouldn't waste your time with him. Sycophants like Mr. Canada simply use these kinds of forums to soothe their low self-esteem. Not that I'm really in the business of defending Mr. Canada or his points, but I think your hypocrisy detector is malfunctioning... Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
charter.rights Posted March 1, 2010 Report Posted March 1, 2010 Not that I'm really in the business of defending Mr. Canada or his points, but I think your hypocrisy detector is malfunctioning... If you think I haven't done what I said, go back and read the entire thread. I have provide history, legal opinions, and Supreme Court rulings to back it up. Mr. Canada has no defense. So doing it on his behalf would be infantile. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
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