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Up is a 2009 animated film by the brilliant people at Pixar.

Carl and Ellie are two children who become instant best friends, bonded by their love of adventurous stories. They vow to someday journey to Paradise Falls in the wilds of South America, following the footsteps of their hero, airship explorer Charles Muntz. A lovely montage shows us their story... they fell in love, married, and lived together in their happy home until Ellie's death of old age. They never did get to Paradise Falls, real life somehow kept getting in the way.

As the story begins, Carl is 78 years old and on the brink of being taken away from the home he and Ellie shared for many years, to live out his last days in a retirement home. Clutching the Adventure scrapbook that Ellie never did get to fill out, Carl decides that to make up for never taking Ellie on that long promised journey, he will be to go to Paradise Falls after all. And he's taking their house with him!

His journey is complicated by an accidentally kidnapped boy-scout, wacky talking dogs, a goofy giant bird, a long-lost explorer, and gravity. Along the way, Carl discovers that he still has a lot of life left and that he didn't really need to go to Paradise Falls to honour Ellie after all.

This is truly a wonderful film, touching as well as hilarious and entertaining.

Ed Asner stars as the voice of Carl Fredricksen. Christopher Plummer voices Charles Muntz. And as with every Pixar feature, you get to play "find John Ratzenberger".

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Up is a 2009 animated film by the brilliant people at Pixar.
I liked Shrek but I stopped watching animated movies when I saw Madagascar.

From what I can gather, these recent movies are CG equivalents of The Jungle Book with Louis Prima/Phil Harris. IOW, producers thought that they could make money if they hired famous voices.

Well, the idea is good but it's no commercial guarantee. Eddie Murphy, and Phil Harris, have distinct personalities, evident in their voices. Putting Adam Sandler or Ben Siddler in front of a microphone is no guarantee of box office.

As the story begins...
Story? I think such a movie's success, like a Stephen King novel, depends far more on character.

Kimmy, I suggest that you rent Shrek again.

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Really, August... you're now critiquing movies that you haven't even seen based on your assumptions of what they're about? Sometimes I wonder "could August be any more pompous?" and the answer has always turned out to be "yes, he could."

I liked Shrek but I stopped watching animated movies when I saw Madagascar.

If I'd seen Madagascar when it came out, I'd have probably stopped watching animated movies too.

I've seen about 5 minutes total of Madagascar and turned the channel. I watched some of Madagascar 2 on the seat-back DVD of a neighboring passenger and it kind of made me want to jump out of the plane.

From what I can gather, these recent movies are CG equivalents of The Jungle Book with Louis Prima/Phil Harris. IOW, producers thought that they could make money if they hired famous voices.

In discussing this movie, that premise is badly flawed: the star is Ed Asner. Most of the target audience has no idea who Ed Asner even is. "Up" grossed $300 million in domestic box office. To propose that Ed Asner's star power could bring in $300 million, whether in 2009 or even at the height of his popularity, whatever that might have been, is hilarious.

If anything, "Up" (and some of Pixar's other recent features, like Wall-E and The Incredibles) demonstrate that Pixar no longer needs big name actors to voice their characters (if they ever did.) It's fair to speculate that Toy Story wouldn't have been as popular without Tom Hanks and Tim Allen behind it (although I think the ground-breaking animation was probably the real draw.) But it is pretty ridiculous to speculate that The Incredibles wouldn't have been a smash hit without "Craig T Nelson," even though it's now impossible to imagine the character with any other voice.

The key to the renewed popularity of animated movies (starting with Toy Story, I think) is not putting famous people behind microphones.

The key has been providing amazing visual experiences, fantastic premises that would be difficult (or incredibly expensive) to do justice in a live-action format, and generally speaking very good stories to go along with it. Good acting is a part of it, but probably less so for animated movies than for a live action movie.

There are plenty of live action movies where one can assume that there's no reason for the movie to even exist other than as a starring vehicle for a big name actor or star-of-the-moment. I don't think the same can be said of any animated movies. It's much harder to cash in on a big name actor's popularity when you've hidden them behind a microphone.

In other words... if they couldn't get Eddie Murphy to provide a voice for Donkey, they would have hired Rob Schneider or Pauly Shore or some other jackass.

Well, the idea is good but it's no commercial guarantee. Eddie Murphy, and Phil Harris, have distinct personalities, evident in their voices. Putting Adam Sandler or Ben Siddler in front of a microphone is no guarantee of box office.

I think Pixar's brand in itself is almost a guarantee of box office, in the same way that Disney animation used to be.

Story? I think such a movie's success, like a Stephen King novel, depends far more on character.

Kimmy, I suggest that you rent Shrek again.

I've seen Shrek. You should see Up. It's not Madagascar.

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Up is a great movie. My wife cried watching it, which is impressive for a cartoon.

The best voice, was the voice of the dog, and a big part of the success of the movie was dog lovers going out to see it, because the little talking dog was irresistable.

And as for star power, this movie really didn't go for starpower to sell it. They took mostly unknowns and a few lesser known actors. It isn't one of those animations where they have Brad Pitt, and Cameron Diaz trying to draw people into the theatre to hear their voice because they lack a good plot.

This is entertaining for kids and adults.

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Christopher Plumber, Ed Asner?

You must be young...

That said I don't watch an animation for the voices alone....

There are movies where you just know that some executive was thinking "You know, Beyonce (or Megan Fox or Katherine Heigl...) is totally hot right now. Let's get her in a movie before it wears off and we can make a load of cash."

But the premise that in 2009 somebody cooked up a movie as a shameless attempt to cash in on the star power of ... Ed Asner? It's laugh out loud funny.

He provides a terrific voice for the character, and I'm sure he's a sentimental favorite for people old enough to remember him as Lou Grant... but he has not been a "bankable" name for a very long time.

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...He provides a terrific voice for the character, and I'm sure he's a sentimental favorite for people old enough to remember him as Lou Grant... but he has not been a "bankable" name for a very long time.

Oh really? His IMDB profile and recent body of work, particularly for voice overs, says otherwise:

Stork (2010) (pre-production) (voice) .... Rhino

Stride (2010) (post-production) .... Charlie Arnesson

Not Another B Movie (2009) (completed) .... Angry Investor

Up (2009) (VG) .... Carl Fredricksen

Up (2009) (voice) (as Ed Asner) .... Carl Fredricksen

... aka Helium (Philippines: English title: review title)

The Raft (2009) .... Seymour

"CSI: NY" .... Abraham Klein (1 episode, 2009)

- Yahrzeit (2009) TV episode .... Abraham Klein

"Star-ving" (2009) TV series .... Dr. Lipschitz (unknown episodes)

The Triumph of William Henry Harrison (2009) (voice) .... Narrator

"The Line" (2009) TV series .... Patrick (unknown episodes, 2008)

Thomas Kinkade's Home for Christmas (2008) (V) .... Sidney

... aka Thomas Kinkade's Christmas Cottage (Australia)

Generation Gap (2008) (TV) .... Bart Cahill

So Others May Live (2008) .... Grandfather Stiles

... aka Crab Orchard (International: English title: TV title)

... aka So Others May Live (USA: DVD title)

Gigantic (2008) .... Mr. Weathersby

"The Spectacular Spider-Man" .... Uncle Ben Parker (1 episode, 2008)

- Intervention (2008) TV episode (voice) .... Uncle Ben Parker

Channels (2008) .... Ed Packard

Hard Four (2007) .... Golden Hands Segal

Christmas Is Here Again (2007) (voice) .... Krad

Zack's Machine (2007) .... Father

... aka A Puppy's Tale of 9/11 (USA: video title)

"Andy Barker, P.I." .... Mickey Doyle (1 episode, 2007)

- The Lady Varnishes (2007) TV episode .... Mickey Doyle

Saving Our Parents (2007) (TV) .... Host

"Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip" .... Wilson White (6 episodes, 2006-2007)

... aka Studio 60 (USA: informal alternative title)

- Monday (2007) TV episode (as Ed Asner) .... Wilson White

- The Christmas Show (2006) TV episode (as Ed Asner) .... Wilson White

- Nevada Day: Part 2 (2006) TV episode (as Ed Asner) .... Wilson White

- Nevada Day: Part 1 (2006) TV episode (as Ed Asner) .... Wilson White

- The Long Lead Story (2006) TV episode (as Ed Asner) .... Wilson White

(1 more)

"W.I.T.C.H." .... Napoleon (3 episodes, 2006)

- Z Is for Zenith (2006) TV episode (voice) .... Napoleon

- U Is for Undivided (2006) TV episode (voice) .... Napoleon

- W Is for Witch (2006) TV episode (voice) .... Napoleon

The Christmas Card (2006) (TV) .... Luke

Ways of the Flesh (2006) .... Mr. Olson

... aka The Heart Specialist (USA: new title)

"The Boondocks" .... Ed Wuncler (3 episodes, 2005-2006)

- The Block Is Hot (2006) TV episode (voice) .... Ed Wuncler

- The Itis (2006) TV episode (voice) .... Ed Wuncler

- The Garden Party (2005) TV episode (voice) .... Ed Wuncler

Lolo's Cafe (2006) (TV) (voice) (as Ed Asner) .... Mr. Atkins

"The Dead Zone" .... Marty Bracknell (1 episode, 2005)

... aka Stephen King's Dead Zone (USA)

- Coming Home (2005) TV episode .... Marty Bracknell

Out of the Woods (2005) (TV) .... Jack Green

"Center of the Universe" .... Art Barnett (12 episodes, 2004-2005)

- Marathon Woman (2005) TV episode (as Ed Asner) .... Art Barnett

- Oh Brother, What the Hell Were You Thinking? (2005) TV episode (as Ed Asner) .... Art Barnett

- The New Neighbors (2005) TV episode (as Ed Asner) .... Art Barnett

- If You Love Something Leave It Alone (2005) TV episode (as Ed Asner) .... Art Barnett

- The Work of Art (2005) TV episode (as Ed Asner) .... Art Barnett

(7 more)

"Justice League" .... Granny Goodness / ... (2 episodes, 2004-2005)

... aka JL (USA: promotional abbreviation)

... aka Justice League Unlimited (USA: third season title)

- The Ties That Bind (2005) TV episode (voice) (as Ed Asner) .... Granny Goodness

- Hawk & Dove (2004) TV episode (voice) (as Ed Asner) .... Hephaestus

Sleeping Dogs Lie (2005) .... Sheriff Delaney

All In (2005/I) .... Sweet Lou

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II - The Sith Lords (2004) (VG) (voice) .... Master Vrook Lamarr

... aka Star Wars: KOTOR II (USA: short title)

X-Men Legends (2004) (VG) (voice) .... Healer

Happily Even After (2004) (uncredited) .... Judge Dreyfus

"The Practice" .... Judge Marcus Winnaker / ... (4 episodes, 1997-2004)

- Mr. Shore Goes to Town (2004) TV episode .... Judge Marcus Winnaker

- Pre-Trial Blues (2004) TV episode .... Judge Marcus Winnaker

- Going Home (2004) TV episode .... Judge Marcus Winnaker

- The Blessing (1997) TV episode .... Judge Matlin Pratt

Christmas Vacation 2: Cousin Eddie's Island Adventure (2003) (TV) (as Ed Asner) .... Uncle Nick

... aka Christmas Vacation 2: Cousin Eddie (USA: promotional title)

... aka National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation 2: Cousin Eddie's Island Adventure (USA: DVD title)

... aka National Lampoon's Cousin Eddie's Island Adventure (USA: promotional title)

The Commission (2003) .... Capt. J.W. 'Will' Fritz

Elf (2003) .... Santa

... aka Buddy - Der Weihnachtself (Germany)

"Duck Dodgers" .... Guard Captain (1 episode, 2003)

... aka Duck Dodgers in the 24½th Century (USA: long title)

- I'm Going to Get You Fat Sucker/Detained Duck (2003) TV episode (voice) .... Guard Captain

Missing Brendan (2003) .... George Calden

... aka Holding Out Hope: A Family Crusade (Australia: video title)

"Spider-Man" .... Officer Barr (3 episodes, 2003)

... aka Spider-Man: The New Animated Series (Canada: English title: DVD box title) (USA: DVD box title)

- Heroes and Villains (2003) TV episode (voice) .... Officer Barr

- Mind Games: Part 2 (2003) TV episode (voice) .... Officer Barr

- Law of the Jungle (2003) TV episode (voice) .... Officer Barr

"Grim & Evil" .... Mr. Voorhees (1 episode, 2003)

... aka The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy (USA: new title)

- Grim for a Day/ChickenBall Z/Max Courage! (2003) TV episode (voice) .... Mr. Voorhees

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (2003) (VG) (voice) .... Master Vrook Lamar

... aka Star Wars: KOTOR (USA: informal title)

The King and Queen of Moonlight Bay (2003) (TV) .... Auggie Sinclair

"ER" .... Dr. James McNulty (3 episodes, 2003)

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Well, Mr Cheney, you've certainly demonstrated an aptitude for using "cut and paste", but you've also demonstrated that you don't understand what the word "bankable" means.

That Mr Asner has been able to keep himself busy guest-starring in occasional episodes of TV series, and has lent his voice to a lot of animated series and video games does not show that he is "bankable". If anything, that list of credits proves the opposite: no credits of note for years prior to "Up".

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Well, Mr Cheney, you've certainly demonstrated an aptitude for using "cut and paste", but you've also demonstrated that you don't understand what the word "bankable" means.

Casting calls are all about "bankable"...at many levels of film and television production distribution.

That Mr Asner has been able to keep himself busy guest-starring in occasional episodes of TV series, and has lent his voice to a lot of animated series and video games does not show that he is "bankable". If anything, that list of credits proves the opposite: no credits of note for years prior to "Up".

Sorry, your earlier point vis-a-vis "Lou Grant" nostalgia has been proven to be wrong, with demonstrated productions over many years.

The partial cut and paste from IMDB was for emphasis....I don't know why you have such disdain for Ed Asner's body of work.

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Paul Dergarabedian, president of the Hollywood.com Box Office division, (Paul has over fifteen years of experience in this field as one of the most widely quoted and respected movie industry analysts) says Asner is bankable today:

Still flying high

• Ed Asner and Betty White. The Mary Tyler Moore Show co-stars scored big. Asner, 79, lent his gruff vocal charm to the animated smash Up, and White, 87, was a grandmotherly joy in The Proposal. "They are viable and bankable today," says Dergarabedian.

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Ed Asner might be bankable today. But if he had been bankable before "Up" was a smash hit, his resume for the previous decade sure doesn't show it.

A guest appearances on CSI:NY, a minor character in 6 episodes of Studio 60, a minor character in 3 episodes of ER. And that's it: the rest is voice work for cartoons and video games or guest appearances on shows nobody ever heard of. Prior to Up, it appears that the last time he was cast as a main character in a production of any significance was in a short-lived 1998 sit-com called "The Closer".

Cheney appears to think that anybody who can get acting work is "bankable", but I think that's far from what industry folks mean by the term. But instead of get drawn into a debate about the definition of a piece of jargon, I'll just leave it at this: if people thought Ed Asner had the star power to sell tickets or create ratings prior to Up, he wouldn't have spent the previous 10 years doing Saturday morning cartoons and video-game voices.

And that is not to insult him. It is to point out the obvious: he had not been a star for a long time. I'm sure he is a sentimental favorite for people old enough to remember MTM, and I think it's neat that he is having a resurgence at 80 years of age. I also think it's neat that "Up" presented the world with a very elderly hero and that people embraced it. Wonderful character, wonderfully voiced, wonderful movie.

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Ed Asner might be bankable today. But if he had been bankable before "Up" was a smash hit, his resume for the previous decade sure doesn't show it.

Except that his resume goes back much farther than that...to 1957. Ed Asner is an established television actor, with broad appeal to American audiences. Film work is a nice bonus....like Elf in 2003, which only grossed over $220 million.

A guest appearances on CSI:NY, a minor character in 6 episodes of Studio 60, a minor character in 3 episodes of ER. And that's it: the rest is voice work for cartoons and video games or guest appearances on shows nobody ever heard of. Prior to Up, it appears that the last time he was cast as a main character in a production of any significance was in a short-lived 1998 sit-com called "The Closer".

Yea, and that was AFTER a stint as Guild president in the 80's.

Cheney appears to think that anybody who can get acting work is "bankable", but I think that's far from what industry folks mean by the term. But instead of get drawn into a debate about the definition of a piece of jargon, I'll just leave it at this: if people thought Ed Asner had the star power to sell tickets or create ratings prior to Up, he wouldn't have spent the previous 10 years doing Saturday morning cartoons and video-game voices.

Which explains why you are not employed as a casting director.

And that is not to insult him. It is to point out the obvious: he had not been a star for a long time. I'm sure he is a sentimental favorite for people old enough to remember MTM, and I think it's neat that he is having a resurgence at 80 years of age. I also think it's neat that "Up" presented the world with a very elderly hero and that people embraced it. Wonderful character, wonderfully voiced, wonderful movie.

Ed Asner hasn't been a "star" for a long time, but that has nothing to do with his continuing roles in film and television. I am sure he is quite happy to work on Stork and laugh all the way to the bank, as are the producers.

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Ed Asner might be bankable today. But if he had been bankable before "Up" was a smash hit, his resume for the previous decade sure doesn't show it.

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And that is not to insult him. It is to point out the obvious: he had not been a star for a long time.

There's no "might" about it, according to someone who knows, and I doubt that the statement was made solely on the basis of the success of UP; one generally doesn't suddenly become bankable based on voice work in one successful animated movie. You mention that Asner hasn't been a "star" for a long time, but that's really irrelevant to whether or not he's been bankable, as "bankable" means 'guaranteed to make a profit;' so if you can show that the projects he was involved in during the last ten years didn't make a profit, then perhaps you'd have a point. But I seriously doubt you could do that.

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I don't think that Ed Asner's resume for the decade prior to Up is what people mean when they use the word "bankable". We'll have to agree to disagree on the point.

However, it's irrelevant to what I was getting at. Earlier August proposed that recent animated movies like Up are made because

producers thought that they could make money if they hired famous voices.

And since we're all at least agreed that Ed Asner has not been a star for a long time, it's ridiculous to suggest that studio executives planned a 100 million dollar production to cash in on his star power.

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Sorry, your earlier point vis-a-vis "Lou Grant" nostalgia has been proven to be wrong, with demonstrated productions over many years.

Ed Asner hasn't been a "star" for a long time

Producers don't bank on has-been actors whose careers are in their death throes (see: resorting to accepting any proposed gig from b-rate television shows to crap video games). The point is that you don't cash-in on a has-been. Sure, you roll the dice and hope it works, but kimmy's right here. Ed Asner's drawing power probably had only a marginal effect on the success of the film. Face it. Pixar knows how to write a story and create aesthetically beautiful art works on film.

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..... The point is that you don't cash-in on a has-been. Sure, you roll the dice and hope it works, but kimmy's right here. Ed Asner's drawing power probably had only a marginal effect on the success of the film. Face it. Pixar knows how to write a story and create aesthetically beautiful art works on film.

That's all the effect Asner needs....drawing power means nothing if the production flops at theatres, and many of today's "stars" have such films on their resume. That means that Asner gets credit for home runs and panned for failures, just like anyone else....and right now, he is on a roll for an 80 year old.

Asner was cast as "Santa" in 2003....it grossed over $200 million....not bad for a has-been.

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That's all the effect Asner needs....drawing power means nothing if the production flops at theatres, and many of today's "stars" have such films on their resume. That means that Asner gets credit for home runs and panned for failures, just like anyone else....and right now, he is on a roll for an 80 year old.

Asner was cast as "Santa" in 2003....it grossed over $200 million....not bad for a has-been.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Did Ed Asner sell Up, or did Up revive his career? Although I'd like to side with you because I think Asner is great, I don't think referring to a cameo he did 6 years ago (which, to be sure, was not the selling point of a film starring Will Ferrell at the height of his career) is helping that argument any.

Ed Asner, sure, was part of the cause of the film's success. He's a great actor and did a brilliant job. I don't think those that recognized him prior to this role are the ones that pushed that movie to millions in sales. In that regard, kimmy is correct. Otherwise, the movie theatres would have probably looked more like 7am coffee-hour at McDonalds, rather than recess at the elementary school.

Honestly, Pixar doesn't need to resort to hiring big names to sell their movies. They have dominated the Academy Awards since their inception. Every movie they have released since Toy Story has been gold. Certainly, Ed Asner, although talented, should be thanking Pixar for giving him the chance to show off his talents to another generation and revive his career that was all but over. Pixar in no way was "banking" on him to be the selling point of the movie.

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Honestly, Pixar doesn't need to resort to hiring big names to sell their movies.

No, they don't; but that doesn't mean Asner isn't still "bankable" at this stage of his career. According to those who know, he is, which has been my point.

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Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Did Ed Asner sell Up, or did Up revive his career? Although I'd like to side with you because I think Asner is great, I don't think referring to a cameo he did 6 years ago (which, to be sure, was not the selling point of a film starring Will Ferrell at the height of his career) is helping that argument any.

Up did not revive his career...he was getting booked consistently in television roles, his mainstay. The film work only emphasizes his "bankability".

Ed Asner, sure, was part of the cause of the film's success. He's a great actor and did a brilliant job. I don't think those that recognized him prior to this role are the ones that pushed that movie to millions in sales. In that regard, kimmy is correct. Otherwise, the movie theatres would have probably looked more like 7am coffee-hour at McDonalds, rather than recess at the elementary school.

It doesn't matter...Asner was part of the cast....and the film was a home run. He gets credit for that...along with others on the production. Asner is now even more "bankable".

Honestly, Pixar doesn't need to resort to hiring big names to sell their movies. They have dominated the Academy Awards since their inception. Every movie they have released since Toy Story has been gold. Certainly, Ed Asner, although talented, should be thanking Pixar for giving him the chance to show off his talents to another generation and revive his career that was all but over. Pixar in no way was "banking" on him to be the selling point of the movie.

Sure...Pixar would rather cast any unknown with no animation voice over track record and save on Asner's higher cost. Oh..wait...they didn't do that after all. Asner was cast for the role...for reasons better known to Pixar.

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One thing you are all missing about Ed Asner and bankability, is that the target audience for something like UP! is for kids. Star power means very little to children. Asner might be bankable in the respect to parents that would take their kids to see the movie, simply because the older crowd would be more familiar with Asner. The kids simply don't care. Actually, I would say that most parents would not care if it was Asner voice acting in the movie.

Asner would be bankable in UP! simply because his voice and acting suited the played character, not because he is popular with the target audience, but because he is good at what he does. That makes him bankable.

I personally really liked The Incredibles. Simply a fantastic film all around.

I am with M.Dancer on one point. I don't watch animation for the voice acting. I appreciate awesome voice acting, but for the most part it is the animation styles and such I am after.

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...Asner would be bankable in UP! simply because his voice and acting suited the played character, not because he is popular with the target audience, but because he is good at what he does. That makes him bankable.

I agree....Asner has been doing animation voice work for many years. It's no fluke that he was cast in Up!

....Asner has also had an extensive voice acting career. He provided the voices for J. Jonah Jameson on the 1990s animated television series Spider-Man, Hudson on Gargoyles, Jabba the Hutt on the radio version of Star Wars, Master Vrook from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic and its sequel, Roland Daggett on Batman: The Animated Series, Cosgrove on Freakazoid!, Ed Wuncler on The Boondocks, and Granny Goodness in various DC Comics animated series. Both he and his late friend Linda Gary voiced many cartoons for the Filmation company.

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I agree....Asner has been doing animation voice work for many years. It's no fluke that he was cast in Up!

Krikey!! He was in Gargoyles?? That was a fine series, and I think my pal Riker (Jonathan Frakes) was in it as well. Gargoyles had some very key actors for sure. KOTOR was good, only played about half of it though, not much for RPGs.

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