M.Dancer Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Iran has kept the facility, 160 kilometres southwest of Tehran, hidden from weapons inspectors, but the U.S. has long known of its existence, a senior White House official told The Associated Press. Mr. Obama decided to go public with the revelation after Iran learned that Western intelligence agencies were aware of the project, the official said before the joint statement. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/...article1301183/ What to do what to do? Would a nuclear armed Iran give a hoot if the world woke up in the morning to find the Gulf is closed to shipping? What use are bunker busters that gather dust? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
GostHacked Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 How about we have Israel declare what her nuclear capabilities are before we pick on the Iranians?? Who really is in violation? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 How about we have Israel declare what her nuclear capabilities are before we pick on the Iranians??Who really is in violation? This we do know about Israel's apparent nuclear weapon force...it's an independent design that has never been tested for yield or just plain functionality. Even the Israelis would view them with a big question-mark over their heads. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
M.Dancer Posted September 25, 2009 Author Report Posted September 25, 2009 How about we have Israel declare what her nuclear capabilities are before we pick on the Iranians??Who really is in violation? Iran. Israel is not a signatory to the treaty. You cannot be in violation of a treaty you don't belong to. And israel is not the topic. The topic is Iran, a nation that has repeatedly lied. denied and deceived the Agency. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted September 25, 2009 Author Report Posted September 25, 2009 (edited) oops. Edited September 25, 2009 by M.Dancer Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
eyeball Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 What to do what to do? Do what we do best, dive head first into the quagmire and hope what Einstein said about insanity was wrong. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
DogOnPorch Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Do what we do best, dive head first into the quagmire and hope what Einstein said about insanity was wrong. So nut-bars who see glowing lights around them during speeches are an OK mix with nuclear weapons in your books? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 So nut-bars who see glowing lights around them during speeches are an OK mix with nuclear weapons in your books? Nut-bars and glowing lights? What the hell are you talking about? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
DogOnPorch Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Nut-bars and glowing lights? What the hell are you talking about? What the Hell do you actually know? http://www.rferl.org/content/Article/1063353.html Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 (edited) Iran.Israel is not a signatory to the treaty. You cannot be in violation of a treaty you don't belong to. And israel is not the topic. The topic is Iran, a nation that has repeatedly lied. denied and deceived the Agency. Iran is also not signatory to any nuke treaty. They were, but you can opt out of it. Legal by so called international laws And you can't avoid talking about Irans nukes without bringing up Israel. Because for all intents and purposes Iran is building nukes to take out Israel, according to them. So if they want Iran to come clean, then they should do so as well. Let's not be hypocrites and try to be fair about this. Edited September 25, 2009 by GostHacked Quote
eyeball Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 What the Hell do you actually know?http://www.rferl.org/content/Article/1063353.html That you must think people can read your mind or something. Yes, I realize the world is filled with nut-bars. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
DogOnPorch Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 That you must think people can read your mind or something.Yes, I realize the world is filled with nut-bars. Anyone up on Ahmedinnerjacket's history would know that...but you decided to post in this thread anyways. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Anyone up on Ahmedinnerjacket's history would know that...but you decided to post in this thread anyways. He's just another nut in a nutty world, much of which is already filled to the rafters with nukes, what else do I need to know? You figure going ballistic and freaking out around these people is a good idea? You must be nuts. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
DogOnPorch Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 He's just another nut in a nutty world, much of which is already filled to the rafters with nukes, what else do I need to know?You figure going ballistic and freaking out around these people is a good idea? You must be nuts. That's right...I'm the crazy one...not Iran's president and similar ilk. How is life on Mars, anyways? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 That's right...I'm the crazy one...not Iran's president and similar ilk. Oh, I'd definitely say Ahmadinejad is also as loony as they come. So I was right, you do figure going ballistic and freaking out around these sorts people is a good idea don't you? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
DogOnPorch Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Oh, I'd definitely say Ahmadinejad is also as loony as they come. ...but it's OK if he develops nuclear weapons to put ontop of his ICBMs. So I was right, you do figure going ballistic and freaking out around these sorts people is a good idea don't you? If by 'freaking-out' you mean getting him to stop what he's doing and hopefully supporting a popular uprising against the current Iranian government that shoots its own citizens in the streets...then yes...I'm 'freaking-out'. But, you'd let The Holocaust occur in the name of keeping out of other nation's business...so wtf do you care? Thugs could be beating an old man by the roadside and it wouldn't be your business to stop them...no. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
M.Dancer Posted September 25, 2009 Author Report Posted September 25, 2009 Iran is also not signatory to any nuke treaty. They were, but you can opt out of it. Legal by so called international laws Since when did they opt out And you can't avoid talking about Irans nukes without bringing up Israel. Because for all intents and purposes Iran is building nukes to take out Israel, according to them. So if they want Iran to come clean, then they should do so as well.Let's not be hypocrites and try to be fair about this. Given that Iran denies making nukes, the statement that according to Iran, Iran is making nukes to take out Israels nukes is either false or a just cause for israel and the west to take Iran out. Which would you like to go with? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
eyeball Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 (edited) ...but it's OK if he develops nuclear weapons to put ontop of his ICBMs. I wouldn't say its great but what's the point of freaking out about a few more compared to the thousands that already exist? If by 'freaking-out' you mean getting him to stop what he's doing and hopefully supporting a popular uprising against the current Iranian government that shoots its own citizens in the streets...then yes...I'm 'freaking-out'. Great. Changing regimes the last time we freaked out over Iran really made the world a better place didn't it? But, you'd let The Holocaust occur in the name of keeping out of other nation's business...so wtf do you care? Ummmm, the Holocaust already occured so wtf are you talking about? Thugs could be beating an old man by the roadside and it wouldn't be your business to stop them...no. You really need to get a better grip on your assumptions. Edited September 25, 2009 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
DogOnPorch Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 I wouldn't say its great but what's the point of freaking out about a few more compared to the thousands that already exist? Unaware of the effects of nuclear weapons, I see. They are more than just a big bomb. Great. Changing regimes the last time we freaked out over Iran really made the world a better place didn't it? Well you'd prefer one where we're all speaking German...just so we didn't upset a dictator. Ummmm, the Holocaust already occured so wtf are you talking about? You'd ignore any Holocaust according to your stated philosophy of live and let live...or die. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 (edited) Unaware of the effects of nuclear weapons, I see. They are more than just a big bomb. Then why did we help fill the world up with so many of them? Well you'd prefer one where we're all speaking German...just so we didn't upset a dictator. You're obviously nuts. We're talking about Iran in 2009 not Europe in the 1940's. Get a grip. You'd ignore any Holocaust according to your stated philosophy of live and let live...or die. There you go again, letting your assumptions get the better of you. Edited September 25, 2009 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Canada should sanction every country on Earth that has nuclear weapons. Of course it stands to reason that the world should sanction Canada if we continue to supply uranium to countries that do because we're every bit as guilty. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
M.Dancer Posted September 25, 2009 Author Report Posted September 25, 2009 Canada should sanction every country on Earth that has nuclear weapons.Of course it stands to reason that the world should sanction Canada if we continue to supply uranium to countries that do because we're every bit as guilty. That's quite the position to take given when you are on your other prescription you advocate canada arm itself with nuclear weapons. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
eyeball Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 That's quite the position to take given when you are on your other prescription you advocate canada arm itself with nuclear weapons. Or we could do that too but I'd prefer we move to my new position. I half expect Iran will test a bomb before December and by the time February rolls around they'll be receiving their exclusive membership card not to mention some new found respect and various concessions from the old boy's club of other nuclear armed nations. This path is both time honoured and well travelled, just like all the freaking out that follows anyone taking it. On the other hand I expect someone will completelylose it and attack Iran and we could be mired up to our necks in the Mother of all Quags....again. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
M.Dancer Posted September 25, 2009 Author Report Posted September 25, 2009 Or we could do that too but I'd prefer we move to my new position. So is this a holistic doctor or a real one? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
eyeball Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 So is this a holistic doctor or a real one? That makes lots of sense, who's ass did you pull this from? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
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