kuzadd Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 I wonder why it is Canada, that allegedly stands for democracy and free speech can't tolerate in an international forum the free speech of others? I mean shouldn't Canada set an example to the world of how much free speech is valued? How we may disagree with what is said, but, we say your entitled to your opinion. Isn't that what Canada is supposedly doing in it's export of "democracy" Free speech is a fundamental right, so what message is Canada sending to the world, regarding it's real stand on freedom of speech? Quote Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).
kuzadd Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 I agree. Canada's walkout only tells everybody that it now can be counted on to be a member of the pack. It does nothing to address Iran's or any other problems. Now the pack mentality is a scary thing, and Canada demonstrating pack mentality doesn't bode well for it's people..... Quote Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).
M.Dancer Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 I wonder why it is Canada, that allegedly stands for democracy and free speech can't tolerate in an international forum the free speech of others? So you are suggesting that Amindingdong wasn't allowed to speak? That he wasn't allowed announce his holocaust denials or spread his tinfoilery about the "International Jewish Conspiracy"? Even though free speech is not tolerated by Amindongdong? Funny, I watched Amindindong give his hate speech..no one stopped him. But right along side the right to free speech is the right not to be forced to listen to imflamatory hate speech. I mean shouldn't Canada set an example to the world of how much free speech is valued? By listening to a speech of little value? Free speech is a fundamental right, so what message is Canada sending to the world, regarding it's real stand on freedom of speech? That no one should compelled to listen to hate speech or compelled to give a holocaust denying pinhead the semblence of respect. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
DogOnPorch Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Now the pack mentality is a scary thing, and Canada demonstrating pack mentality doesn't bode well for it's people..... We're we demonstrating 'pack mentality' when 1 million Canadian's went into uniform to defeat Hitler? Why is this Iranian Nazi any different? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
myata Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Like Afghan "nazi" and Iraq "nazi" before (and Vietnam "nazi" some years back)? Everybody we don't happen to like must be a "nazi". That certainly explains so many things, pack mentality in particular. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
DogOnPorch Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Like Afghan "nazi" and Iraq "nazi" before (and Vietnam "nazi" some years back)? Everybody we don't happen to like must be a "nazi". That certainly explains so many things, pack mentality in particular. No...Holocaust denying fans of the 3rd Reich like Iran's president are Nazis. Terrorist Jew-baiting scum like Mullah Omar are Nazis. Friends of yours, I gather? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
myata Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 I understand, it's either my pack, or theirs. Tell us more about pack mentality (better still, show, i.e keep showing it). Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
DogOnPorch Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 I understand, it's either my pack, or theirs. Tell us more about pack mentality (better still, show, i.e keep showing it). Just because you'd let Hitler 'do his thing' doesn't mean everybody is morally bankrupt. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
myata Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Yes, a nice example, please continue, it's very entertaining (and educating for those who have yet to find out what pack mentality is all about). Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
DogOnPorch Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Ok...give me one good reason why I should respect a Holocaust denying Jew-baiter? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
myata Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Yes, correct: I have to respect and even love him, or he is a "nazi" (and all such things). Please keep telling us all about how pack mentality works. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
DogOnPorch Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Yes, correct: I have to respect and even love him, or he is a "nazi" (and all such things). Please keep telling us all about how pack mentality works. A poster referencing the 'collective we' claiming I'm demonstarting 'pack mentality'...? Priceless. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
myata Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 (edited) the audience, point taken. And so, any other comments on the subject, we've made (you and I) great inroads into understanding pack mentality so far? Edited September 25, 2009 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
DogOnPorch Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 the audience, point taken. And so, any other comments on the subject, we've made (you and I) great inroads into understanding pack mentality so far? Just that you seem to have a fondness for terrorist leaders and dictators while my 'pack' despises them... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Just that you seem to have a fondness for terrorist leaders and dictators while my 'pack' despises them... Oh so NOW your pack despises dictators? Its a little late for that don't you think? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
myata Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 No, it doesn't despise all dictators, only the unfriendly ones. Of course, any critism of my pack means automatic fondness for theirs, haven't we (you and I) already established that here, but thanks anyways. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
DogOnPorch Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Oh so NOW your pack despises dictators? Its a little late for that don't you think? My 'pack' is me...I've always despised dictators. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 My 'pack' is me...I've always despised dictators. Then why do you spend so much time backing a pack that hasn't? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Then why do you spend so much time backing a pack that hasn't? Who do I support again? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Who do I support again? A pack that hasn't despised dictators the way you always did. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 I suppose next you'll be asking what dictators? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 lol...you can't tell me, can you? Next you'll have me voting for Harper. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 lol...you can't tell me, can you? Next you'll have me voting for Harper. You're completely freaked out aren't you? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Alex Moore Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Of course, we simply have to be the ones deciding the legitimacy of others elections, governments, ways to run the country, laws, beliefs, and so on. And if we don't like them, we'll walk out, proudly. Such a novel recipe for the world in the new millenia! (Applause) yay! someone else who offer criticisms without actually looking at the argument. No we are not the ones deciding the legitimacy of other people elections. The Iranian are the one deciding the legitimacy of their own. You may have conveniently forgotten but after the fraudulent Iranian elections this summer: there where riots demanding recounts. Followed by a severe beat downs from police and paramilitants. Arrests for being on the same street as a protest/being British or working for a western organisation. followed by the show trial of opposition leaders. I'm not the one saying that's the government isn't legitimate. If there's one thing we learned from this summer its that the Iranians themselves don't think their own government is legitimate. Maybe I didn't make this point strong enough in the original argument. Quote "I am a sick man, I am a spiteful man... My liver hurts" - Dostoevsky
DogOnPorch Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 (Applause) yay! someone else who offer criticisms without actually looking at the argument. Shooting people in the streets is A-OK with these same posters. BTW...you're freaking out...lol. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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