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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_powers

Constitutional monarchies

Heads of state in countries with either an uncodified and partly unwritten constitution (such as the United Kingdom) or a wholly written constitution that consists of a text augmented by additional conventions, traditions, Letters Patent, etc. (such as the Commonwealth of Australia) generally have reserve powers.

Typically these powers are:

to dismiss a Prime Minister;

to refuse to dissolve Parliament;

to refuse or delay the Royal Assent to legislation. To withhold the Royal Assent amounts to a veto of a Bill. To reserve the Royal Assent in effect amounts to a decision neither to grant or refuse assent, but to delay taking a decision for an undetermined period of time. In Australia, Royal Assent can also be reserved by the Governor-General in order for the Queen to sign a Bill into law - this is 'reserving the Bill for Her Majesty's pleasure'.

How about we petition the Queen to Fire the Conservatives, the Liberals and all political parties out of existence forcing New parties to be created in their place to start Canada off on a clean slate. Face it Canada is in entrenchly corrupt country where the Conservatives or Liberals use the Government for their personal benefit.

Conrad Black is in Jail in the US for thinking that way.

We need the Queen's office to fire the prime Minister and refuse to sign any legislation coming from the Conservative and Liberals. We need people who will represent Canada and Canadians not prostitute Canada and Canadians out for other Countries and peoples benefit.

Two blazing examples, Canada is a world leading supplier in the ingrediants required to produce beer, yet when those ingredients are put together in Canada we have a case of Budweiser being sold for $45 dollars Canadian and that same Case being sold in the US for a 11.50 US. Our dollars is almost at par.

Another example is Canada produces more than it consumes but insists on selling the oil to the world at world prices. Fine, but the US is a big importer of Oil, yet at the pump their Gas is 30 to 40 percent lower what Canadians have to pay.

These are only tips of the ice berq as to the corruption of the Conservatives and Liberals.

Our solution is to petition the Queens office to fire the Conservative and Liberals and refuse to acknowledge their incompetent governance.

Job 40 (King James Version)

11 Cast abroad the rage of thy wrath: and behold every one that is proud, and abase him.

12 Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place.

13 Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.

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Two blazing examples, Canada is a world leading supplier in the ingrediants required to produce beer, yet when those ingredients are put together in Canada we have a case of Budweiser being sold for $45 dollars Canadian and that same Case being sold in the US for a 11.50 US. Our dollars is almost at par.

What kind of self respecting Canadian wants to drink Budweiser?

Another example is Canada produces more than it consumes but insists on selling the oil to the world at world prices. Fine, but the US is a big importer of Oil, yet at the pump their Gas is 30 to 40 percent lower what Canadians have to pay.

The USA produces far more oil thna Canada, and also sells at "world price". Your price is higher because of taxes and a lack of refining capacity.

These are only tips of the ice berq as to the corruption of the Conservatives and Liberals.

Our solution is to petition the Queens office to fire the Conservative and Liberals and refuse to acknowledge their incompetent governance.

That's not going to happen, but you can solve your issues the way many other Canadians have....move to the USA.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Guest American Woman
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The USA produces far more oil thna Canada, and also sells at "world price". Your price is higher because of taxes and a lack of refining capacity.

The U.S. produces more oil than Canada, but unlike Canada, it uses more than it produces. "Canada output 35% more oil than it used in 2005 [while] America consumes a third more than domestic oil production." link

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Back to the topic, wouldn't it be faster and cheaper if the Greens NDP and Libs joined together as one party and called its self the ABC party? We would have the environment from the Greens, the social programs from the NDP and the level-head debt free of the Libs!! Harper would go back to Imperial and take them into a deficit!

Guest American Woman
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Back to the topic, wouldn't it be faster and cheaper if the Greens NDP and Libs joined together as one party and called its self the ABC party? We would have the environment from the Greens, the social programs from the NDP and the level-head debt free of the Libs!! Harper would go back to Imperial and take them into a deficit!

The production and cost of oil in Canada is on topic:

We need people who will represent Canada and Canadians not prostitute Canada and Canadians out for other Countries and peoples benefit.

Two blazing examples....

Another example is Canada produces more than it consumes but insists on selling the oil to the world at world prices. Fine, but the US is a big importer of Oil, yet at the pump their Gas is 30 to 40 percent lower what Canadians have to pay.

Canadians do pay more for gas at the pumps because of higher taxes. So why wouldn't Canada sell oil to other countries at world prices?

Here's an interesting link breaking down the initial price per gallon in several countries with the countries' taxes added for total cost:

Here's a link to the article.

So it's hardly an example of Canada being "prostituted."

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Back to the topic, wouldn't it be faster and cheaper if the Greens NDP and Libs joined together as one party and called its self the ABC party? We would have the environment from the Greens, the social programs from the NDP and the level-head debt free of the Libs!! Harper would go back to Imperial and take them into a deficit!

What if we petition the Queen's office to Refuse to disolve parliament and refuse to acknowledge any legislation coming from the Conservatives or Liberals from here on out. In turn the Queen's office could systematically cleans the parliament by firing all the corrupt party polticians and force those areas to reelect independent politicians not affiliated with any party period. Once Canada's parliament is filled with Independent politicians the Queen's office could then hold a vote of parliament or better yet have an election to the Canadian people who will be the Prime Minister of Canada out of those elected to parliament.

The Queen's office could make mandatory 4 year terms for each region. These elections could be staggard so as to not disrupt the momentum of Parliament. For example, the provinces and territories can be divided by 4 which would mean 3 regions would be electing independent politicians in any given year.

We need politicians who are going to go to bat and represent Canada and do right by Canadians; Not prostitute them out for other Countries and peoples benefit.

At the moment that is what the Conservative have done to Canada. Under the Conservatives, Canadians pay more taxes, make lower wages, pay higher Gas prices, Pay higher food prices. The conservative have turned Canada into a Reverse Colony where Countries look to Canada see how little they can get away with in paying wages and taxes and how much they can export to the US to drive up profits to be siphoned back to Japan, the US, Europe, and anywhere else but back into Canada's economy.

Think about that. Lower Wages than comparable countries and higher retail costs equals failed governance.

The conservatives and the Liberals alike think they are clever in their immigration policies to fragment Canada's vote to ensure they continue to grip power. However, it is possible to purge Canada of the Conservative and Liberal Cancer that has turned Canada into an exploitative, repressive, bottom sucking country whore.

Job 40 (King James Version)

11 Cast abroad the rage of thy wrath: and behold every one that is proud, and abase him.

12 Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place.

13 Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.

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Under the Conservatives, Canadians pay more taxes, make lower wages,

:blink:

pay higher Gas prices, Pay higher food prices.

There are reasons for that, not the least of which being inflation.

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How about we petition the Queen to Fire the Conservatives, the Liberals and all political parties out of existence forcing New parties to be created in their place to start Canada off on a clean slate. Face it Canada is in entrenchly corrupt country where the Conservatives or Liberals use the Government for their personal benefit.

Conrad Black is in Jail in the US for thinking that way.

We need the Queen's office to fire the prime Minister and refuse to sign any legislation coming from the Conservative and Liberals. We need people who will represent Canada and Canadians not prostitute Canada and Canadians out for other Countries and peoples benefit.

Our solution is to petition the Queens office to fire the Conservative and Liberals and refuse to acknowledge their incompetent governance.

Sounds good to me!

Get Conrad Black to lead one of the new parties!

I'd vote for him in a heartbeat!

"A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."

-- George Bernard Shaw

"There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."

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The U.S. produces more oil than Canada, but unlike Canada, it uses more than it produces. "Canada output 35% more oil than it used in 2005 [while] America consumes a third more than domestic oil production." link

Irrelevant to the question at hand....Canada's oil production, refining, and distribution are closely tied to the US market. This OP, as in many others like it, fails to understand the advantages of having access to the largest single market in the world, or the impact of domestic taxes. Americans pay different prices for petrol as well, but it doesn't mean we should overthrow the government.

Edited by bush_cheney2004

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Guest TrueMetis
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Irrelevant to the question at hand....Canada's oil production, refining, and distribution are closely tied to the US market. This OP, as in many others like it, fails to understand the advantages of having access to the largest single market in the world, or the impact of domestic taxes. Americans pay different prices for petrol as well, but it doesn't mean we should overthrow the government.

Canada's Government has never been overthrown maybe it's time for it to be.

Guest TrueMetis
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OK..but you will need permission from the Queen.

That could cause a slight problem but there is always a way.

Guest American Woman
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Irrelevant to the question at hand....Canada's oil production, refining, and distribution are closely tied to the US market. This OP, as in many others like it, fails to understand the advantages of having access to the largest single market in the world, or the impact of domestic taxes. Americans pay different prices for petrol as well, but it doesn't mean we should overthrow the government.

Nor do I think Canada should overthrow the government over gas prices. In fact, if you read my posts, I say quite the opposite; that higher taxes are the main reason for the difference in gas prices there and in the U.S. and that the price Canadians pay for gas isn't "prostituting" Canada, as claimed.

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Nor do I think Canada should overthrow the government over gas prices. In fact, if you read my posts, I say quite the opposite; that higher taxes are the main reason for the difference in gas prices there and in the U.S. and that the price Canadians pay for gas isn't "prostituting" Canada, as claimed.

I'm not sure what you meant in the context of the USA being a net importer. No matter.....it is certainly no reason to rebel in the streets. Frankly, I don't know why some of these folks beat themselves up over "lower prices" in America while at the same time crowing about "cheaper" health care in Canada. But I know there are Canadians who drive across the border just to satisfy the perceived "injustice".

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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As all Canadian governments are appointed by the Queen - even if by proxy - if it had her blessing it would cease to be an overthrow.

Well then, we'll just have to make sure she puts up a stink!

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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How about we petition the Queen to Fire the Conservatives, the Liberals and all political parties out of existence forcing New parties to be created in their place to start Canada off on a clean slate.

The Conservatives are already a new party. So we only have to get the Queen to kill off the Liberals and the NDP to complete your vision.

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The Conservatives are already a new party. So we only have to get the Queen to kill off the Liberals and the NDP to complete your vision.

Sadly, they are NOT a new party!

They WERE a new party, as Reform/Alliance! When they merged with the tiny remnant of the old Progressive Conservative Party, they promptly began a process of becoming a clone of the PC party that existed before Reform was ever created.

Actions speak louder than words. Can you cite me anything of the old Reform platform in the new CPC?

Can you cite me any significant differences between the new CPC and the old Progressive Conservatives?

Can you tell me why Preston Manning even bothered?

"A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."

-- George Bernard Shaw

"There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."

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I'd rather Canadians themselves use their votes to fire the Conservatives if so chosen rather than relying on a foreigner who derives 100% of her power from who her mommy and daddy were.

"All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain

Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.

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The Queen isn't a foreigner, and most of the rest of what you said is plain ignorance....I really wish people would read.

Posted

The only good party is unelected party, vote independent.

Job 40 (King James Version)

11 Cast abroad the rage of thy wrath: and behold every one that is proud, and abase him.

12 Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place.

13 Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.

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The Queen isn't a foreigner, and most of the rest of what you said is plain ignorance....I really wish people would read.

Queen Elizabeth II may be our Head of State and leader of the Commonwealth for which we are a part of, but she's still a foreigner in my eyes. And yes, her power comes from who her parents were (or more specifically, her father), rather than any will of the people, making her power undemocratic and (in my opinion) illegitimate.

These are just my opinions. My main point was that i think Canadian voters should decide disposing of a gov`t whenever possible, rather than the British Monarch or the Gov. General.

(edited for a stupid spelling error)

Edited by Moonlight Graham

"All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain

Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.

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The Queen is not some interloper- she is the head of the greatest royal corporation on earth - the British Common WEALTH. We are part of that company and will always be the company - Canadians that think that she is a "foreigner" are like kids living on an allowance from their parents - with their own apartment - Mum just lets you believe you are independent - but she will always be watching and can retract that allowance at any time.

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Queen Elizabeth II may be our Head of State and leader of the Commonwealth for which we are a part of, but she's still a foreigner in my eyes. And yes, her power comes from who her parents were (or more specifically, her father), rather than any will of the power, making her power undemocratic and (in my opinion) illegitimate.

These are just my opinions. My main point was that i think Canadian voters should decide disposing of a gov`t whenever possible, rather than the British Monarch or the Gov. General.

You have your legalities wrong. Canada is a Dominion, not a colony. We happen to SHARE the same Queen as Britain! We have complete and utter independence from Britain.

By definition, the Queen is as Canadian as you or I!

Any Brit could use your arguments as a reason to consider the Queen as a "Canadian foreigner"!

"A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."

-- George Bernard Shaw

"There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."

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