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[monkeyman]

From your own cite.

Some dates relate to regional elections and where possible the second date of general election has been included. Even countries listed may not have universal suffrage for women, and some may have regressed in women's rights since the initial granting of suffrage. Note that suffrage rights are separate from the right to stand for election.

A cursury look at the list shows most are not democracies of any kind. Without a democracy, you don't have a vote. But I guess you wouldn't understand complexities like that, given the poor education you apparently received in your home country.

I got the same education that you got (except I'm not an Ignorant) I was raised in Quebec, French Canadian School, no Mosque and bla bla bla .

But again, you're for democracy for everyone except Canadian Muslims. So you're for Democracy you Ignorant idiot.

[DogOnPorch]

En francais la mot est boxeur.

[monkeyman]

From your own cite.

Some dates relate to regional elections and where possible the second date of general election has been included. Even countries listed may not have universal suffrage for women, and some may have regressed in women's rights since the initial granting of suffrage. Note that suffrage rights are separate from the right to stand for election.

A cursury look at the list shows most are not democracies of any kind. Without a democracy, you don't have a vote. But I guess you wouldn't understand complexities like that, given the poor education you apparently received in your home country.

Home country = Canada

Whatever you say, I love Canada I love Canadians I love White people, I love everyone.

YOU: you hate everyone that is not white and christian.

You: you are ignorant and have been educated by a mom that doesn't know how to read and probably a pedophile and alcoholic father.

Even if I would have been raised in my country of origin (which you don't even know ) It would have been 100 times better than the poor education you got.

By the way, there's no Sharia Law in my country of origin and it's PROHIBITED to wear scarves in public places.

WANKER

Edited August 28, 2009 by monkeyman

[monkeyman]

En francais la mot est boxeur.

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en francais LE mot est boxeur!!!

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You wrote 6 words and you made a huge mistake you mug!!!! lololol

WORD IS MASCULINE YOU DOUCHE BAD

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[DogOnPorch]

Personal attacks like the ones you're doing are just going to get you banned and justify our opinions that you are just another dangerous Muslim with a victim-complex.

[DogOnPorch]

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en francais LE mot est boxeur!!!

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You wrote 6 words and you made a huge mistake you mug!!!! lololol

WORD IS MASCULINE YOU DOUCHE BAD

hahahah

Oh me...oh my.

[monkeyman]

Personal attacks like the ones you're doing are just going to get you banned and justify our opinions that you are just another dangerous Muslim with a victim-complex.

Oh yeah??/ No victim complex, my identity is Canadian 1000000000 times before Muslim, so try again honey.

You see, because I have a different opinion than yours, it's because I'm Muslim (on paper).

See how you guys are xenophobes ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? and INTOLERANT.

If we were speaking about Jews or blacks the same way you guys are speaking about Muslims, my opinions would be the exact same thing.

[DogOnPorch]

Whatever...Greg and Charles will see those posts of yours and decide. Meanwhile, you've done nothing to set aside the opinion that Muslims do not 'get along' well in Canada...you being proof.

[monkeyman]

Whatever...Greg and Charles will see those posts of yours and decide. Meanwhile, you've done nothing to set aside the opinion that Muslims do not 'get along' well in Canada...you being proof.

That's because you're stupid, I'm Muslim on paper, I don't practice it at all.

I'm playing your game IDIOT. YOU GENERALIZE SOME MUSLIM ASSHOLES I GENERALIZE SOME WHITE ASSHOLES , it's the same thing.

Your mom educated you like a piece of shit , didn't she ?

Edited August 28, 2009 by monkeyman

[lictor616]

And is that interfering in your life in some way? You can't convert from Islam to some other religion in many Muslim countries - on pain of the death penalty. Do you care about that?

Evidence? Cite? Someone done a poll (no pun intended) on porn stars and industry "executives"?

Not a bit, I don't presume that I have a right to order the Israelis and tell them what to do in their own nation. Personally where it not for the salve trade of European women, I don't think I would even care that Israel is a huge human rights violator. As long as they are in their part of the world, and aren't interfering with ours... good.

http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CT...ub=MontrealHome

About the porn: America's most notorious pornographer was Reuben Sturman, the 'Walt Disney of Porn'. According to the US

Department of Justice, throughout the 1970s Sturman controlled most of the pornography circulating in the country. Al Goldstein, the

publisher and owner of Screw (which includes 38% of porn magazine distribution). Then there's playboy and Hugh Hefner (pretty much the father of porn). Then there's Penthouse CEO Marc H. Bell who curently owns adult firend finder a huge hlaf billion dollar web porn industry. Then there's Seymore Butts born Adam Glasser who owns the largest "gonzo" porn production house in the Industry... Montreal's own Chris Yarosh owns about 68 other domains including bang bus and brazzers and has the single largest hit average then any other porn website. Actually Brazzers ranks 89th as the most visited pages in the world (all types included).

Then there's the fomenters of the so called sexual revolution: Wilhelm Reich, Herbert Marcuse (and what he termed his polymorphous perversity) and Paul Goodman who replaced Marx.

I don't want to go on any further on this subject since most of you are determined that no such correlation be made...

[DogOnPorch]

My mom educated me like a piece of shit , didn't she ?

[lictor616]

Reasons like the direct quotes most likely being in Hebrew, which most people looking at an English website would not be able to understand? That some of your "quotes" come from books that don't even exist says it all.

Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud

Where a Jew Should Do Evil:

Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis:

Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God:

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews:

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

Jews Have Superior Legal Status:

Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

Jews May Steal from Non-Jews:

Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews:

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews:

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human:

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

[Moonbox]

Has it occurred to you that the readings and teachings of 2000 years ago are likely reinterpreted and/or ignored? I don't beat my spouse with a thumb-thick stick, which is what the Bible says I'm allowed to do if she is misbehaving.

For you to be here quoting mistranslated/non-existent and or poorly interpreted verses from forever ago as proof somehow that Jews are dangerous/scary people shows just how plainly stupid, ignorant and hateful you really are.

I'm not Jewish but in a year of posting on this forums I have not ONCE been as offended as I am reading the vapid and hateful garbage you're posting here.

Edited August 28, 2009 by Moonbox

[lictor616]

Has it occurred to you that the readings and teachings of 2000 years ago are likely reinterpreted and/or ignored? I don't beat my spouse with a thumb-thick stick, which is what the Bible says I'm allowed to do if she is misbehaving.

For you to be here quoting mistranslated/non-existent and or poorly interpreted verses from forever ago as proof somehow that Jews are dangerous/scary people shows just how plainly stupid, ignorant and hateful you really are.

I'm not Jewish but in a year of posting on this forums I have not ONCE been as offended as I am reading the vapid and hateful garbage you're posting here. If you actually believe what you're writing here then get off the forums, because you're clearly just an ignorant twit.

Is that supposed to be some sort of refutation? Calling me an "ignorant twit"? I've already stated that I see the three big religions (actually all religions) but for our purposes here; the three desert dogma's Judaism, Christianity and Islam as being thoroughly flawed and silly superstitions, however the inadequacies of the bible don't make the moral shortcomings of the old testament or Torah "ok".

look here are some nice yeshiva boys: do you think they are inspired by the Talmud?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYuWOi56Wq0

in it, some jewish guys are railing on how god gave the world to the jewish people etc etc... which seems to confirm the view that Jews views themselves as superior... as verified by the Talmudic quotes I lifted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYuWOi56Wq0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGKos_liB6E

[lictor616]

I'm not Jewish but in a year of posting on this forums I have not ONCE been as offended as I am reading the vapid and hateful garbage you're posting here.

I'm quite offended by those citations myself frankly. Remember though that i'm not the author... and I hope that no jews would adhere to them.

but...

it is the "chosen people's" own sacred text.

[madmax]

Your mom educated you like a piece of shit , didn't she ?

I prefer to see Dog On a Porch kept on a short leash because he bites.

But either monkeyman is a caricature pushing the envelope with a desire to get banned, or a serious poster in need of muzzle.

[monkeyman]

Has it occurred to you that the readings and teachings of 2000 years ago are likely reinterpreted and/or ignored? I don't beat my spouse with a thumb-thick stick, which is what the Bible says I'm allowed to do if she is misbehaving.

Well, ignorants will say that even if you don't beat your wife with a stick like the bible says, they will find a couple of anecdotes and say that Christians do these things. Because some people are IGNORANTS

[Moonbox]

I'm quite offended by those citations myself frankly. Remember though that i'm not the author... and I hope that no jews would adhere to them.

but...

it is the "chosen people's" own sacred text.

You're misquoting and taking them out of context as well as posting completely non-existant texts. You're trying to use it as evidence of their 'immorality'. Only an idiot would take the texts of 2 thousand years ago and pretend that it's an accurate representation of group of people today.

[Moonbox]

Well, ignorants will say that even if you don't beat your wife with a stick like the bible says, they will find a couple of anecdotes and say that Christians do these things. Because some people are IGNORANTS

Pretty clearly yes. This goes for Jew haters and Muslim haters alike.

[Guest American Woman]

First of all, I have to say that this thread has deteriorated to point where, in my opinion, it's unbearable to read. However, I'm going to respond to my own earlier post because I think I may have been wrong in my response.

QUOTE=monkeyman :....Don't know why I never heard a brilliant comment like this one on a French forum from Quebec!

QUOTE=bush_cheney: Is this irony....or just me?

Definitely irony. I was going to make the same response, but you beat me to it.

In reading an article regarding a recent poll, it seems as if the majority of Canadians do have a negative view of Islam, which was news to me:

Across Canada, 72 per cent said they have a “generally favourable opinion” of Christianity. At the other end of the spectrum, Islam scored the lowest favourability rating, just 28 per cent.

And it is even worse in Quebec:

A mere 17 per cent of Quebecers said they have a favourable opinion of Islam.

As the article states:

Canadians like to think of their country as a model for the world of how all sorts of people can get along together. But when it comes to the major faiths other than Christianity, a new poll conducted for Maclean’s finds that many Canadians harbour deeply troubling biases.

Again, this surprises me:

....only 10 per cent said they thought Christianity teaches violence. But fully 45 per cent said they believe Islam does ....

I'm sure this post will soon get buried amongst all the insults that will follow, but I felt I should correct my initial response to the initial post.

Edited to add link

Edited August 28, 2009 by American Woman

[Bonam]

Only an idiot would take the texts of 2 thousand years ago and pretend that it's an accurate representation of group of people today.

Especially if the texts don't in fact exist at all, lol. Next he's going to be quoting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as a "Jewish text".

[monkeyman]

Especially if the texts don't in fact exist at all, lol. Next he's going to be quoting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as a "Jewish text".

comon Bonam, your argumentation his rubbish a part for the facts taht you bring funny anecdotes and you speak with your emotions instead of your head.

[lictor616]

You're misquoting and taking them out of context as well as posting completely non-existant texts. You're trying to use it as evidence of their 'immorality'. Only an idiot would take the texts of 2 thousand years ago and pretend that it's an accurate representation of group of people today.

sorry "i'm" not the one MISQUOTING them... I based my citations from scholar Michael A. Hoffman's book, "Judaism's Strange Gods" which was published in 2000 a widely quoted book (cited even by jewish Norman J Finklestein, Noam Chomsky and many others).

there'S also the works of Israel Shahak http://books.google.ca/books?id=avh6dkSop0...;q=&f=false

and what he says on the "Halakhah" or :"laws for goyim":

Shahak offers a number of hair-splitting examples of Jewish beliefs on the subject and the way in which distinctions are made between the property of Jews and Gentiles, and between Jewish dealings with another Jew and with a Gentile. Two of these examples will suffice here:

"If a Jew finds property whose probable owner is Jewish, the finder is strictly enjoined to make a positive effort to return his find by advertising it publicly. In contrast, the Talmud and all the early rabbinical authorities not only allow a Jewish finder to appropriate an article lost by a Gentile, but actually forbid him or her to return it...

"It is forbidden to defraud a Jew by selling or buying at an unreasonable price. However, "Fraud does not apply to Gentiles, for it is written: 'Do not defraud each man his brother'...""

Shahak points out that "the Halakhah interprets all such idioms as ('each man his brother' or 'neighbor') as referring exclusively to one's fellow Jew."

offers a number of hair-splitting examples of Jewish beliefs on the subject and the way in which distinctions are made between the property of Jews and Gentiles, and between Jewish dealings with another Jew and with a Gentile. Two of these examples will suffice here:

"If a Jew finds property whose probable owner is Jewish, the finder is strictly enjoined to make a positive effort to return his find by advertising it publicly. In contrast, the Talmud and all the early rabbinical authorities not only allow a Jewish finder to appropriate an article lost by a Gentile, but actually forbid him or her to return it...

"It is forbidden to defraud a Jew by selling or buying at an unreasonable price. However, "Fraud does not apply to Gentiles, for it is written: 'Do not defraud each man his brother'...""

Shahak points out that "the Halakhah interprets all such idioms [as 'each man his brother' or 'neighbor'] as referring exclusively to one's fellow Jew."

Rabbi Menachem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Mendel_Schneerson), Comments for the Fifth Book

Jehovah himself in heaven studies the Talmud, standing: he has such respect for that book.

Tractate Mechilla/Me'ilah

"A heathen who studies the Torah deserves death"

Sanhedrin 59a

To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.

Libbre David 37

A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them.

Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17

We beg Thee, O Lord, indict Thy wrath on the nations not believing in Thee, and not calling on Thy name. Let down Thy wrath on them and inflict them with Thy wrath. Drive them away in Thy wrath and crush them into pieces. Take away, O Lord, all bone from them. In a moment indict all disbelievers. Destroy in a moment all foes of Thy nation. Draw out with the root, disperse and ruin unworthy nations. Destroy them! Destroy them immediately, in this very moment!

Prayer said on the eve of Passover (Pranajtis: Christianus in Talmudae Judeorum, quotations from: Synagoga Judaica)

The Feast of Tabernacles is the period when Israel triumphs over the other people of the world. That is why during this feast we seize the loulab and carry it as a trophy to show that we have conquered all other peoples, known as "populace"...

Zohar, Toldoth Noah 63b

When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves.

Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D

Resh Lakish said: He who is observant of fringes will be privileged to be served by two thousand eight hundred slaves, for it is said, Thus saith the Lord of hosts: In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold, out of all the languages of the nations shall even take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you, etc.

Mas. Shabbath 31b

On the house of the Goy [Goy means unclean, and is the disparaging term for a non-Jew] one looks as on the fold of cattle.

Tosefta, Tractate Erubin VIII

When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it.

and it goes on and on and on...

These are the heighest respected figures in Judaism's OWN DIRECT QUOTATION as well as Hebrew scholars CORROBORATING what they say... it's not some quack Ku Kluxer...

Now I'm sorry, I wish that all these utterances were patently false, but they are verbatim what is in the sacred text of the Talmud.. sorry , if you people have a problem with it... keep in mind that IM NOT THE ONE responsible for these quotes. I regret that they are what they are... but I will not discount them or ignore them.

and I don't subscribe to the inane argument that just because something might be criticizing of jews, that it somehow makes it "anti-semetic" ...as silly as that word is.

Edited August 28, 2009 by lictor616

[jbg]

How come most of Muslim countries, women can vote?

What do you know about Islam except from what tv. shows you?

Another bunch of stupid generalizations

Voting in one-party elections, or elections based upon tribal dictates, isn't really voting.

[jbg]

I just told you. Historically, Islam and the West are enemies. Only in the last few generations has the West become 'enlightened' enough to open up the doors that had been shut for centuries due to Islam's destructive nature. Islam...not so 'enlightened', merely uses the opportunity to push forward the Islamic agenda.

Around the time of events such as Concert for Bangladesh and Live Aid, the Muslims can indeed be very "huggy huggy"; one world, we're all brothers.

While you may or may not care about this agenda, there are plenty of Muslims in positions of power that do and openly call for the West's destruction. Islam is the religion of peace in the sense that there will be 'peace' once everyone has been converted to Islam.

Re: the first portion of this post, the "inclusiveness" ends when it comes to their tolerating non-Muslim states in the midst of the "ummah", or equality for non-Muslims in the midst of Muslims.