Pliny Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Feeling stressed benny? LOL. Alpha males are aging. You mean oppressed as leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Sorry, I have to call BS on this one. In nature there is murder, so why is that particular behavior so frowned upon? Also, eating your young occurs in nature, so why don't we put this 'homosexuals in nature" argument out to pasture.We are not animals. I agree. There is something different about us and I don't know why some confuse us as being mere animals. Perhaps for now we just need to recognize that it does exist until we better understand we are not animals - Although science and politics seems to be dragging us in the opposite direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 LOL. You mean oppressed as leaders. People in America refered to Clinton as "alpha male" - it is Hillary that is the alpha male. Real alpha males are protectors - who allow the weaker to thrive - they are not the destroyers..but creative people who lead you towards life and NOT death - but death and war are big buisness and weasils like Kissinger - consider themselves as alpha males "Power is the greatest aphrodisiac" _ that is not alpha - that is dickless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 You mean oppressed as leaders. weakening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 weakening Power is not a fist - nor is it the ability to decieve with impunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliny Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Power is not a fist - nor is it the ability to decieve with impunity. Except when men become sissies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Power is not a fist - nor is it the ability to decieve with impunity. In nature, power is size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 In nature, power is size. Size of the mind generates great size everywhere else on the body - unless you swim in cold water - then all men are created equal and powerless in those regards - I regress benny - and you do also - I believe you are flirting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Size of the mind generates great size everywhere else on the body - unless you swim in cold water - then all men are created equal and powerless in those regards - I regress benny - and you do also - I believe you are flirting. All men are created through very unnatural traumatic events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 All men are created through very unnatural traumatic events. To you, the whole universe is un-natural - in your sphere - in my universe all is natural and super natural...and just being here is a trama - some called adventure trama - and trama adventure...The only thing I would call trama - is the trama ward - where they haul in shooting victims living in a world that YOU believe creates men out of violence....violence creates wimps...war turned my father into a coward - like it does all men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 To you, the whole universe is un-natural - in your sphere - in my universe all is natural and super natural...and just being here is a trama - some called adventure trama - and trama adventure...The only thing I would call trama - is the trama ward - where they haul in shooting victims living in a world that YOU believe creates men out of violence....violence creates wimps...war turned my father into a coward - like it does all men. Miracles are traumatic events too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Miracles are traumatic events too. Was talking to a wonderful and beautiful woman - an accomplished artist - she is 84 years old - and vibrant..we agreed that we are the miracle - the life is the miracle - the we are in heaven that THIS is eternity - and we all wait for a miracle - when we actually wait for ourselves - I guess for you life is a trama - to me it's a miracle - love you you benny - you are free to go now - and be happy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Was talking to a wonderful and beautiful woman - an accomplished artist - she is 84 years old - and vibrant..we agreed that we are the miracle - the life is the miracle - the we are in heaven that THIS is eternity - and we all wait for a miracle - when we actually wait for ourselves - I guess for you life is a trama - to me it's a miracle - love you you benny - you are free to go now - and be happy... What is miraculous about life is the consciousness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 In nature there is murder, so why is that particular behavior so frowned upon? Though natural, these behaviours cause harm to others. That is the difference...and the fact that you can't see the difference is disturbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Perhaps for now we just need to recognize that it does exist until we better understand we are not animals What would happen tomorrow if all law and order disappeared from the Earth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Though natural, these behaviours cause harm to others. That is the difference...and the fact that you can't see the difference is disturbing. We become human out of a drive to extract ourselves from nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Though natural, these behaviours cause harm to others. That is the difference...and the fact that you can't see the difference is disturbing. That you can't see such a simple point reflects poorly on your reading comprehension. I was merely pointing out that the homosexual behavior in nature argument is not a trustworthy one, since many behaviors in nature are not acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Sorry, I have to call BS on this one. In nature there is murder, so why is that particular behavior so frowned upon? Also, eating your young occurs in nature, so why don't we put this 'homosexuals in nature" argument out to pasture.We are not animals. Are you really comparing two consenting adults loving one another and being in a relationship together to people murdering and cannibalizing their children? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 That you can't see such a simple point reflects poorly on your reading comprehension. I was merely pointing out that the homosexual behavior in nature argument is not a trustworthy one, since many behaviors in nature are not acceptable. Then to condemn homosexuality because it is not of nature (or natural) is equally unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Ah yes, another reading comprehension problem. Read my post again. Please point out where homosexual behavior was compared to anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I don't need to read your post again. Your argument is that abhorrent things happen in nature, so one should not argue that homosexuality is acceptable because it occurs in nature. Well, what I'm suggesting to you in light of that argument is that for the same reason it is not a valid argument that homosexuality is unacceptable because it is not natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I thought you were suggesting to me I was comparing homosexual behavior with murder and such. Or do you finally see you have no basis for that ill-informed comment? Anyway, on to this next argument you make. You've served up a nice helping of common sense and I agree almost totally. I think. No, wait a minute. I am not arguing nor have I argued that homosexuality is unacceptible because it is not natural. I am arguing that just because you find it in nature, that doesn't mean we should all start copying it. Dogs eat their own vomit, you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I thought you were suggesting to me I was comparing homosexual behavior with murder and such. Or do you finally see you have no basis for that ill-informed comment?Anyway, on to this next argument you make. You've served up a nice helping of common sense and I agree almost totally. I think. No, wait a minute. I am not arguing nor have I argued that homosexuality is unacceptible because it is not natural. I am arguing that just because you find it in nature, that doesn't mean we should all start copying it. Dogs eat their own vomit, you know. No matter how well disguised I do recognize the biblical quote - " a dog returns to it's vomit".... It is NATURAL - that some do not breed with woman...what they do with their spare time is of no consequence other that it being distasteful. Many things in this world are distasteful. To fixate on what you find objectionable in the word takes a lot of time away from doing things that are useful - hate is the lazy mans love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpio Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I know it's anecdotal, but the three people I've known that were the most hateful to homosexuals eventually came out of the closet as well. Hating gays is good cover if you don't want anyone to know you yourself are gay. Second to that is outing other gays to take the attention away from yourself. Unfortunately, it just goes to show how intolerant society is to homosexuals that they cannot freely love whomever they choose because of fear. And three more: Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, Larry (" I have never been gay") Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Those that seek to punish homo-sexuals might just as well forget it! Have you ever seen an aging gay pair - where one in in failing health and the other barely holding on - no kids - no wives - and in the end no friends because they are no longer attractive. Time will not only punish homo-sexuals but will also destroy nasty hetor-sexuals - so it's a waste of time playing god...leave them alone and mind your own buisness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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