benny Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 Why would we want to avoid that? To avoid mass deportations. Quote
Argus Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 To avoid mass deportations. I fail to see how Quebec separating would involve deportations - unless the Quebecers then decided to deport all the Anglos and natives. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 According to my reading (don't have time to find it right now), about 1/4 of this country's population is bilingual. In the last census about 17% reported they were bilingual. In reality, less than a third of those people know enough of the other official lanuage to, for example, pass the tests needed to be considered bilingual by the federal government. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Leafless Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 What you just said makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. So now you're suggesting that being bilingual somehow equates with being a traitor to one's culture? Just when I thought I'd seen it all. You must know for a fact that it was not the English speaking majority in Canada who were responsible for the creation of cultural hysteria in Canada. Quebec are the culture imperialist of Canada all in the name of the pursuit of political power which basically is an extension of the 'War on the Plains of Abraham'. It makes me laugh when posters like 'CANADIEN' who claim to be so much different than his brothers in Quebec but beats the same French cultural drum. French and Aboriginal minorities in Canada are not really minorities but are 'politcally correct' minorities and are fed privledges invented by a French PM, primarily for Quebecers that are not available to other Canadians. There is no need to further bother to look up the definitons of bigot, or racist as you don't have to look further than the French cultural ideologies and policies imposed by Quebec politicians in their own province and forced fed to the ROC. Quote
benny Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 I fail to see how Quebec separating would involve deportations - unless the Quebecers then decided to deport all the Anglos and natives. Failing to foresee is always part of the problem. Quote
Leafless Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 First off, Franco-Canadian-cultures are not limited to Quebec. Secondly, the Franco-Canadian-cultural policies in place today have their roots with Pearson, not Trudeau. Thirdly, that these policies continued while new ones for immigration were implemented during the premiership of Trudeau remains only a coincidence. There is as of yet no proof that Trudeau pulled together two parallel running portfolios as a Machiavellian way of destroying "white English culture" (which itself remains completely undefined), as you now, in an attempt to retroactively make sense of your earlier posts, keep asserting he did. As the statement goes: correlation does not imply causation. You really want proof do you? I believe a constitution can permit the co-existence of several cultures and ethnic groups with a single state. Pierre Trudeau One can be in complete disagreement with some one without denigrating him. Pierre Trudeau I realized that having different opinions from another person in no way prevented the greatest respect for that person as an individual. . . . Mere tolerance is not enough! There must be a real and deep respect for each human being! Justin Trudeau Building a country of Diversity Trudeau put on his coat and tell the story of diversity and its lessons for humanity Paula DeCoito, Mississauga He came to this House of Commons to build a country in which French-speaking Canadians have their rightful place from sea to sea; a Canada of two official languages; a Canada that celebrates diversity; a compassionate Canada that affords all of its citizens an equal opportunity to succeed in life, whatever their background or beliefs, whether rich or poor; a Canada that is active in the world, engaged in the cause of freedom, peace and justice, a champion of developing countries. Voices from the House of Commons Opening our doors to the world We greatly thank the honorable Pierre Elliot Trudeau for all the things he has done for Canada, especially for opening the doors to immigrants from all over the world. Bautista Family Thank you for all you have done for us individually and jointly. Thank you for treating us immigrants as valuable citizens and not as commodities. Taposhi Choudhry You (Trudeau) have given me, who was once a refugee, a chance to live in this magnificent country, a country to which I now belong, a country which I now call home. You have restored my once lost dignity of being a man without a country and have instilled in me a great sense of pride to be Canadian, for which I will be forever grateful. Samson Young, a captain in the Canadian Armed Forces We came to Canada from war torn Middle East, in 1967. Afraid and very much alone, we forged a future in this Great Nation. Mr. Trudeau's Just Society opened the doors for millions of oppressed, and forgotten people. His love for this Nation and it's people will never be equaled. I am Canadian Uniquely different we all are, Canada we all belong I'm a child of Indian immigrants that grew up in the Trudeau era, a child of the era where white, black, brown, and yellow faces populated the school yards of the nation. And those faces were all proudly, fiercely, and joyfully Canadian. Just like Pierre Trudeau. Linda George You (Trudeau) dared to unearth latent talents in all Canadians, cherished each individual, bridged cultural and linguistic gaps, redesigned and redefined policies with your keen sensitivity for Canadians. You emphasized the Aboriginal claim to this land and offered to all immigrants, their sons and daughters, a comfortable sojourn in Canada, their adopted home. Rose Robinson - Toronto, Ontario Mr. Trudeau knew what it meant for people of color, sexual orientation, religious background, political belief, etc., to live and work together in unity and love. He has carved out the best country in the world for us to live in. Morley Wilson, Mississauga Ontario Trudeau built Canada in such a way that people of all cultural and racial backgrounds can come and live in it with racial harmony and togetherness. I myself immigrated from Ethiopia nine years ago. I have tremendous respect for the people of Canada and their great leader, the late Prime minister P.E.Trudeau. Bekure Asnake I was born and grew up in Toronto under the first "official" wave of multiculturalism and bilingualism. I will forever be grateful for these policies which taught me respect for others, pride in my heritage, and forward-looking optimism with eyes open to the wider world. Beidak Leung Mr. Trudeau fought so vigorously and diligently for social justice, for more equality and rights for Francophones, visible minorities, women, and others, for the indebted and poor third world nations . . . moogs Trudeau . . . promoted a concept of Canada as a tolerant place - tolerant towards French language and culture, tolerant of different sexual orientations, tolerant of immigrants and their cultures and religions. Brian Graff The Right Honourable Pierre Trudeau made a difference in the life of every Canadian. Whether we passionately agreed or disagreed with his idealism and methods is beside the point. The fact is that he inspired us to be passionate about who we are. Donna Jang, Vancouver, BC Although his was a privileged upbringing, he (Trudeau) understood humanity and had a real feeling for ordinary people. He was truly a visionary and humanitarian, who took up the cause of injustice and apartheid, opened up immigration in Canada, and allowed the downtrodden and disadvantaged an opportunity at a better life. Vitra Garcia I was only eight years old when Pierre Trudeau left office. . . . if it weren't for his (Trudeau's) open immigration policies, I wouldn't be here. And if it weren't for his decriminalization of homosexuality, I wouldn't be here. Joseph Sanghara In Loving Memory Pierre Elliott Trudeau, a great distinguished leader stood firm and strong for Canada. He took on the arduous task of making Canada a country with a difference. He had compassion, love and understanding for the multicultural society and so a beautiful tapestry of Canada was created. He will be remembered as an outstanding Prime Minister who instilled that great feeling of "Proud to be a Canadian." olga madeira http://www.digitalschool.net/edu/ucfv/405_pierre.html Quote
benny Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 You really want proof do you? These comments are written in quite good English, therefore they cannot be proofs of the destruction of English culture. Quote
Leafless Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 These comments are written in quite good English, therefore they cannot be proofs of the destruction of English culture. There is no proof that these comments were not linguisically doctored to reflect the use of proper English. Regardless the point of that post was to prove that Trudeau was instrumental by destroying the linguistic/politcal influence of the White, English culture. Quote
benny Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 There is no proof that these comments were not linguisically doctored to reflect the use of proper English. Regardless the point of that post was to prove that Trudeau was instrumental by destroying the linguistic/politcal influence of the White, English culture. But you are only proving the attractiveness of Canada. Quote
Smallc Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 It's funny how all the things that Leafless thinks of as bad are actually good. One can be in complete disagreement with some one without denigrating him.Pierre Trudeau I realized that having different opinions from another person in no way prevented the greatest respect for that person as an individual. . . . Mere tolerance is not enough! There must be a real and deep respect for each human being! Justin Trudeau Scary stuff. Quote
benny Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 Scary stuff. To me, it seems only provocations. Racism makes people talk. Quote
Leafless Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 But you are only proving the attractiveness of Canada. Especially to a multitude of certain types of immigrants and Quebec. Canada was always an attractive country (up until the Trudeau era) and is why most immigrants assimilated to it's White English speaking Western culture. And I really don't have to guess and have no doubt why you find Canada attractive especially since the time Trudeau introduced his commie type iniatives in an effort to destroy or greatly diminish the politcal influence of the White, English speaking culture. Did you enjoy your bowl of rice this morning benny? Quote
benny Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 Especially to a multitude of certain types of immigrants and Quebec. Canada was always an attractive country (up until the Trudeau era) and is why most immigrants assimilated to it's White English speaking Western culture. And I really don't have to guess and have no doubt why you find Canada attractive especially since the time Trudeau introduced his commie type iniatives in an effort to destroy or greatly diminish the politcal influence of the White, English speaking culture. Did you enjoy your bowl of rice this morning benny? Natural resources make Canada attractive. Quote
Leafless Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 It's funny how all the things that Leafless thinks of as bad are actually good. It is strange how you approve the actions of a traitor who changed the direction of a free and democratic country to suit the cultural agenda of a twisted socialist dictator. Quote
benny Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 It is strange how you approve the actions of a traitor who changed the direction of a free and democratic country to suit the cultural agenda of a twisted socialist dictator. Hitler was a dictator. Quote
Smallc Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 It is strange how you approve the actions of a traitor who changed the direction of a free and democratic country to suit the cultural agenda of a twisted socialist dictator. You are so out of it it isn't even funny. Only in leafless land. Quote
benny Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 You are so out of it it isn't even funny. Only in leafless land. A white man can have a black heart with yellow fever. Quote
CANADIEN Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) Well, many in Quebec are morons.In fact, the federal Liberals pushed multiculturalism for various reasons. One was to suck up the ethnic population, of course, but another was to dillute the old English-French tensions, and to do this it was the old English culture which they attacked, removing the symbols and history in order to americanize the English here and remove British influences. An attack on the English culture... Obviously the norons are not all in Quebec. Edited May 26, 2009 by CANADIEN Quote
Leafless Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 You are so out of it it isn't even funny. Only in leafless land. Liberal lackey. Quote
CANADIEN Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 Well, a fundamental characteristic of small parts of Quebec and New Brunswick, maybe. The fact we gave two national languages is what I refer to. Quote
Leafless Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 A white man can have a black heart with yellow fever. And some ethnics are just plain nuts. Quote
CANADIEN Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 You really want proof do you?http://www.digitalschool.net/edu/ucfv/405_pierre.html Oh the infamy. Truuudeau was not a barrow-minded clueless bigot. Oh the double infamy, He actually knew proper English. Quote
CANADIEN Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 And I really don't have to guess and have no doubt why you find Canada attractive especially since the time Trudeau introduced his commie type iniatives in an effort to destroy or greatly diminish the politcal influence of the White, English speaking culture. Yes, Canada is a lot scarier place since that thing that did not happen. Quote
benny Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 And some ethnics are just plain nuts. It is because they were deprived of their fair share of the New World's natural resources. Quote
CANADIEN Posted May 26, 2009 Report Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) It is strange how you approve the actions of a traitor who changed the direction of a free and democratic country to suit the cultural agenda of a twisted socialist dictator. Yes smallc. Be careful. Too much approval of things taht did not happen and of a person who did not exist can be bad for your health. Edited May 26, 2009 by CANADIEN Quote
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