McCain insists 9/11 perpetrators came from Canada

jdobbin · April 24, 2009

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/04/24/m...canada-911.html

Arizona Senator John McCain is the latest high-profile politician to repeat the diehard American falsehood that the Sept. 11, 2001, attackers entered the United States through Canada.
McCain, who was defeated in his bid for the presidency by Barack Obama, defended Janet Napolitano, the U.S. Homeland Security secretary, telling Fox News she was correct when she said the perpetrators came to the United States via Canada.

It is good to see this information come out about the terrorists.

I also heard that the terrorists were supporters of McCain in 2000 and were all wearing McCain buttons on the planes.

Edited April 25, 2009 by jdobbin

August1991 · April 25, 2009

"See! Republicans are stupid too!"

The CBC is playing this as a way to defend Obama and his choice of Napolitano, or something.

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I'm no conspiracy freak but since the CBC has joined Sirius, I am suspicious of their US coverage. The Economist wen the same route.

Smallc · April 25, 2009

First, CBC didn't just join Sirius, they own part of it...and your trying to make something out of that is a bit strange...after all, the BBC is also on Sirius.

Second, the story is being carried by FOX News....and they said that McCain was wrong. This has nothing to do with the CBC....even if you want it to.

Edited April 25, 2009 by Smallc

Shakeyhands · April 25, 2009

Second, the story is being carried by FOX News....and they said that McCain was wrong.

FOX is also on Sirius btw...

Smallc · April 25, 2009

FOX is also on Sirius btw...

That's right, I forgot about that.

August1991 · April 25, 2009

First, CBC didn't just join Sirius, they own part of it...and your trying to make something out of that is a bit strange...after all, the BBC is also on Sirius.

My point.

The CBC is now part of the US political debate. The CBC is seeking the US NPR audience.

Smallc · April 25, 2009

The CBC is seeking the US NPR audience.

And? I haven't seen any real change in CBC programming (although they are now reorganizing their news department...so it should actually get even better). You want to find something that isn't there, that's all.

August1991 · April 25, 2009

And? I haven't seen any real change in CBC programming

Duh!

And you're surprised that the CBC seeks the US NPR audience?

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As I noted, what are the implications for Canadian listeners?

Smallc · April 25, 2009

As I noted, what are the implications for Canadian listeners?

Nothing, because as I said, I haven't noticed a change.

August1991 · April 25, 2009

Nothing, because as I said, I haven't noticed a change.

I guess that you are in the typical NPR demographic.

The CBC's sweet spot.

Smallc · April 25, 2009

I guess that you are in the typical NPR demographic.
The CBC's sweet spot.

I don't listen to everything on CBC. I only care about news and sometimes current affairs. Many people use CBC for that, since they are so good at it.

jdobbin · April 25, 2009

The CBC is playing this as a way to defend Obama and his choice of Napolitano, or something.

I could have easily put CTV's link here. The story was covered by many media outlets because it is one of the biggest myths about the September 11 attacks.

Instead, you have made this an attack on the CBC.

myata · April 25, 2009

Well, so many a folk only see what they want to see, one'd be amazed! But of course pres candidate broadcasting of (non-existent) terrorist threat from Canada to its biggest trading partner has nothing to do whatsoever with this country, and shouldn't be mentioned in any news, that should dedicate themselves instead entirely to the essential matters like e.g. Britney Spears (apologies, Celine Dion maybe) latest outfit.

Sir Bandelot · April 25, 2009

Perhaps there is an ulterior motive here, with this propaganda about terrorists coming from Canada. There is really no way that these people could have mis-spoken when they uttered these statements... and inevitably later retract them. By now everyone at these high levels knows the facts. If you know them, if I know them, how could they not?

But the ulterior motive could be to prepare the public for a new initiative, to install more fortifications at the Canadian border. Despite the fact that there never was a problem, its necessary to justify this by inventing one, through lies and propaganda as a means to get the funding. The use of fear is a typical tactic in getting results.

Are they planning on building fortress America? This is what I suspect they are up to. It's either that, or as a means to justify why American security is needed north of the border. Change you can believe in...

Edited April 25, 2009 by Sir Bandelot

bush_cheney2004 · April 25, 2009

Perhaps there is an ulterior motive here, with this propaganda about terrorists comeing from Canada. There is really no way that these people could have mis-spoken when they uttered these statements... and inevitably later retract them. As you know once it's out there, heard by millions, it cannot be taken back. The retraction is usually done much more quietly, partly because its an admission that what they first said was wrong, which they don't like to admit publicly.

Of course "terrorists" can come from Canada...USA too. It's not like it never has happened (e.g. Ahmed Ressam). American politicians can use Canada to their advantage just as much as their counterparts across the border have done come election time.

But the ulterior motive could be to prepare the public mind for a new initiative to install more fortifications at the Canadian border. Despite the fact that there ever was a problem, its necessary to justify this by inventing one, through lies and propaganda as a means to get the funding. The use of fear is a typical tactic. Are they planning on building fortress America? This is what I suspect they are up to.

Can't really wall off Mexico and explain that Canada is OK because of hockey and "white" people smuggling the dope.

It's either that, or as a means to justify why American security is needed north of the border. Change you can believe in...

Strange...America and Israel are the only places that need walls to keep people out...not in. :lol:

Smallc · April 25, 2009

Can't really wall off Mexico and explain that Canada is OK because of hockey and "white" people smuggling the dope.

No, but you can wall off Mexico and explain that Canada is OK because they don't have the same problems as Mexico.

bush_cheney2004 · April 25, 2009

No, but you can wall off Mexico and explain that Canada is OK because they don't have the same problems as Mexico.

That's why it would be a different kind of wall. I beleive Grand Forks AFB has replaced B-52's with Predator ROVs.

Smallc · April 25, 2009

ahh, that was mean of me.

Edited April 25, 2009 by Smallc

bush_cheney2004 · April 25, 2009

ahh, that was mean of me.

No it wasn't...sometimes those rich western Canadians (your edit) just want cheaper gas and cigarettes. The facts are that many Canadians want access to the USA....for many reasons...most perfectly legit.

Smallc · April 25, 2009

No it wasn't...sometimes those rich western Canadians (your edit) just want cheaper gas and cigarettes.

Actually, the Rich western thing is only true of the 3 western provinces west of me anyway :lol: . I know Canadians want access to the US...I also don't fault the US for wanting to protect it's borders....I do however think that there is a better use of resources other than Canada.

bush_cheney2004 · April 25, 2009

Actually, the Rich western thing is only true of the 3 western provinces west of me anyway . I know Canadians want access to the US...I also don't fault the US for wanting to protect it's borders....I do however think that there is a better use of resources other than Canada.

Of course you do....you're a Canadian! Border security (no matter how flawed a concept) is a huge political issue in the USA, one that the Republicans (and Democrats) can use to their advantage. I have always sensed that some Canadians feel they are special when it comes to the border (especially compared to...ummm...those...Mexicans), even as the USA is just as much a foreign country.

Smallc · April 25, 2009

I have always sensed that some Canadians feel they are special when it comes to the border (especially compared to...ummm...those...Mexicans), even as the USA is just as much a foreign country.

Yes, the USA is just as much a foreign country, but there are better places for the US to spend money,

bush_cheney2004 · April 25, 2009

Yes, the USA is just as much a foreign country, but there are better places for the US to spend money,

Yea, and I can say the same thing about the Gun Registry....but what I think about it is irrelevant. There is a growing portion of the American population who are apoplectic about this issue, even at the population grows from illegal immigration.

Smallc · April 25, 2009

Yea, and I can say the same thing about the Gun Registry.

So can I.

bush_cheney2004 · April 25, 2009

So can I.

See...it doesn't matter. Hue and cry for a Gun Registry...so you have one. Hue and cry for a US border crackdown, so it will happen. Historically, Americans go apeshit over issues like this when the economy goes sour and jobs are lost.