Ah, spring, and Romance is in the air

[Argus]

It's interesting to juxtapose world outrage at the Afghani government, or elements, therof, and their dumbass law which would force women to get their husband's permissio before going outside, and make it a crime to turn down their sexual requests - with the kind of brutal, anti-female behaviour routinely seen from the Taliban.

Both are worthy of condemnation, of course, but you won't get a lot of people shouting angrily over what the Taliban does, in this case, or in any case. Whether it's burning down girls schools - or killing the students, executing women who don't fully cover their faces, or doing drive-bys on womens activists the Taliban largely escape condemnation. Instead, we get pleas that they be negotiated with and accomodated. It seems that nobody here really cares what brutal acts are commited out in the world unless they're commited by the West or an allie of the West.

The Taleban in Afghanistan have publicly killed a young couple who they said had tried to run away to get married, officials say.

The man, 21, and woman, 19, were shot dead on Monday in front of a mosque in the south-western province of Nimroz.

Eloping Couple Executed by Taliban

[DogOnPorch]

That's both sad and insane.

[kactus]

Taliban are a nasty piece of work! I don't think anyone will share any sympathy with this brutal oppressive force group unless ofcourse if you are part of pakistani forces guarding along the border with Afghanistan.

[kimmy]

But were they moderate Taliban?

-k

[dub]

they remind me of some orthodox jewish groups and some christian groups and how they treat their women.

[M.Dancer]

they remind me of some orthodox jewish groups and some christian groups and how they treat their women.

You remind me of fruitloops

[dub]

does kimmy know that, according to the jewish law of niddah, she's unclean when she's menstruating? actually, she stays unclean even a week after she's finished menstruating. in fact, kimmy should be isolated during her monthly period as she contaminates all who touch her.

some religious groups do the darnest things.

[JerrySeinfeld]

some religious groups do the darnest things.

Yea. And there're also reams of Jewish Orthodox people rioting in the streets about cartoons.

Good comparison.

[dub]

Yea. And there're also reams of Jewish Orthodox people rioting in the streets about cartoons.

Good comparison.

do you lock your jewish woman in your basement for a week when she's menstruating, jerry?

i'm sure you're not one of those jews. it's quite the pathetic religious law.

i wonder how many muslims, per capita, practice the law above. it's quite the pathetic religious law.

[dub]

what about you Argus?

i doubt you lock your mother away for a week when she's 'unclean'. can you believe that there are still some jews who agree with and practice this religious law?

as a modern man, i'm sure you condemn this women oppressing jewish law.

[Argus]

what about you Argus?

i doubt you lock your mother away for a week when she's 'unclean'. can you believe that there are still some jews who agree with and practice this religious law?

as a modern man, i'm sure you condemn this women oppressing jewish law.

Here's the thing you don't get - wait, there are many things you don't get - but in this case, what you're ignoring, either out of sheer ignorance or deliberately, as a pathetic excuse for yet again bringing those evil Jews into the discussion, is that all religious texts have archaic and often violent passages which are either explicitely or implicitely violent. The difference between US and THEM is that we long ago reinterpreted those passages, and virtually no one actually takes their archaic messages seriously. Over here, that is.

Over there, the Koran, and the interpretations made of it many centuries ago, are considered absolute and perfect in every way, as interpretations of God's will. You are not permitted to even discuss reinterpreting in light of modern social awareness. And there is a certain stream of Muslims, a growing stream, mostly because the Saudis have put billions into funding Madrases schools to teach it, which consistently takes the most violent, archaic, zealous interpretation of the Koran and the accompanying hadiths, and then puts them into practice.

[Argus]

they remind me of some orthodox jewish groups and some christian groups and how they treat their women.

Can you perhaps give us cites of the many Christian and Jewish women who have been publicly executed for violating the religious standards of their society over the last few years?

[DogOnPorch]

The Niddah is practiced only by extreme fundementalist Jewish groups. A rare practice in today's modern Jewish world. For example, Sarah Silverman would laugh at the suggestion of 'unclean' and crack a dirty joke.

Not to mention the Niddah doesn't call for the shooting of young lovers after a quick kangaroo court by the local Imams.

[dub]

The Niddah is practiced only by extreme fundementalist Jewish groups. A rare practice in today's modern Jewish world. For example, Sarah Silverman would laugh at the suggestion of 'unclean' and crack a dirty joke.

Not to mention the Niddah doesn't call for the shooting of young lovers after a quick kangaroo court by the local Imams.

the action by taliban in the original post is only practiced by extreme fundamentalist muslim groups.

so why do you guys try so hard to paint a whole group of people and their religion based on what an extreme and fundamentalist group does?

Edited April 14, 2009 by dub

[M.Dancer]

The Taliban just about main stream in Afghanistan...and folks like you would have them even stronger....

[wulf42]

But were they moderate Taliban?

-k

Taliban is Taliban................kill em all!

[dub]

The Taliban just about main stream in Afghanistan...and folks like you would have them even stronger....

there are over 1,500,000,000 muslims. how many of them are taliban and how many approve of this disgusting action?

[dub]

before you can divert this point, i will answer my own question;

there is an estimated 10,000 taliban in the world.

you're an idiot if you want to use their action to represent the over 1.5 billion muslims around the world.

[tango]

before you can divert this point, i will answer my own question;

there is an estimated 10,000 taliban in the world.

you're an idiot if you want to use their action to represent the over 1.5 billion muslims around the world.

Than k you dib.

Those are good facts.

A source would be good too.

And it would be good if you would stop your disgusting attacks.

[M.Dancer]

there are over 1,500,000,000 muslims. how many of them are taliban and how many approve of this disgusting action?

The topic is afghanistan...thanks for being irrelevant and pointless.

[Argus]

there are over 1,500,000,000 muslims. how many of them are taliban and how many approve of this disgusting action?

The study also vetted attitudes towards Islamic law and unity, asking how desirable were the “strict application of Sharia Law in every Islamic country” and, in the long run, the unification of “all Islamic countries into a single Islamic state or Caliphate.” Many like it: 65 per cent in Egypt; 48 per cent in Indonesia and 76 per cent in Pakistan and Morocco.

World Muslims want Sharia and a return of one-world Muslim state

Asked whether Shari'a should be the only source of legislation, one of the sources of legislation, or not be a source of legislation, most Muslims believed it should at least be a source of legislation. Support was particularly strong in Jordan, Palestine, and Egypt, where approximately two-thirds of Muslim respondents stated that the Shari'a must be the only source of legislation

Strong majorities in middle east favour Sharia law

Apart from a few public lashings since Islamisation started in the 1980s, harsh physical punishments have not been imposed. Nobody has been executed under a law banning blasphemy against Islam, but some accused blasphemers have been killed by mobs.

Sharia law wanted in Muslim world

53 percent of Muslims think Shariah law should be recognized as a legal basis for settling family disputes, outlawed in 2006. Of those surveyed, 55 percent of Muslim women and 59 percent of Muslims aged 18 to 29 indicated their preference for Sharia law.

Many Canadian Muslims want Sharia Law

Forty per cent of the British Muslims surveyed said they backed introducing sharia in parts of Britain, while 41 per cent opposed

40% of British Muslims want Sharia law[/url\]

SHARIA law should rule Ireland in the event of a Muslim majority, a senior Islamic cleric has said.

Irish Muslims want Sharia law

No doubt dub will now tell us about all the Jewish and Christian mobs who beat accused blasphemers to death and approve of laws which execute women for adultery.

[Argus]

before you can divert this point, i will answer my own question;

there is an estimated 10,000 taliban in the world.

you're an idiot if you want to use their action to represent the over 1.5 billion muslims around the world.

You're an idiot if you think the Taliban are the only problem. It wasn't the Taliban who machinegunned schoolgirls in their uniforms in Egypt because they weren't wearing chadors. It wasn't the Taliban who forced schoolgirls back into a burning school in Saudi Arabia because they were unveiled. It wasn't the Taliban who publicly executed a 13 year old girl in Somalia after she complained of being raped. It wasn't the Taliban who hung a 16 year old girl in Iran for complaining of rape. It wasn't the Taliban who exploded bombs in Indonesia killing hundreds of people, who rammed airplanes into the world trade centre or blew up subways in the UK.

[kimmy]

does kimmy know that, according to the jewish law of niddah, she's unclean when she's menstruating? actually, she stays unclean even a week after she's finished menstruating. in fact, kimmy should be isolated during her monthly period as she contaminates all who touch her.

some religious groups do the darnest things.

Pathetic, yet predictable response from you.

"uh-oh, people are talking about something terrible that Muslim fundies did. QUICK! Let's try and change the subject to Judaism!"

does kimmy know that, according to the jewish law of niddah, she's unclean when she's menstruating?

Golly! The women... are they executed?!

does kimmy know that, according to the jewish law of niddah, she's unclean when she's menstruating?

These extreme Jewish fundamentalists... have they formed a military movement? Are these Jewish extremists out attacking people who don't conform to their views? Are they attempting to seize control of a country?

does kimmy know that, according to the jewish law of niddah, she's unclean when she's menstruating?

Are Canadian troops in combat against these extreme Jewish fundamentalists? Are Canadian politicians being implored to reach a peaceful settlement with these extreme Jewish fundamentalists?

Yeah, greeeeaaaatt analogy, buddy.

-k

[DogOnPorch]

dub: the action by taliban in the original post is only practiced by extreme fundamentalist muslim groups.

Like Iran, The Sudan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria...etc, etc.

[Oleg Bach]

To disrespect and kill a couple that are in love...is similar to issues of social control - we have the same thing but not as extreme - those that are common law are disrespected - those that do not get married in a church or joined by a civil ceremony are disrespected here also. We man look down on those that have not been sanctioned by church and state to breed - they look down and swing down with a sword - it's not a religious issue persay - it's about control of the population - it's a form of animal husbandry - we have the same thing..but we don't kill the offending cow and bull.