Is it time to de-criminalize Pot posession?

[benny]

Slavers became rich by inventing a seed separator (cotton gin).

Slavers became rich by trading humans.

[BubberMiley]

I'd still be paying about $50K in taxes either way...that's real money...not doper money.

Uh huh. Don't people retire from the military at $10 an hour.

[bush_cheney2004]

Uh huh. Don't people retire from the military at $10 an hour.

Only the dopers....

[benny]

Only the dopers....

The others become prison administrators...

[bush_cheney2004]

The others become prison administrators...

Pick your rate...choose your fate.

[benny]

Pick your rate...choose your fate.

By definition, a fate cannot be chosen.

[bush_cheney2004]

By definition, a fate cannot be chosen.

Must be the dope....a fate can most certainly be chosen.

[benny]

Must be the dope....a fate can most certainly be chosen.

Fatality has to be accepted period.

[Oleg Bach]

No more wasting time on pot - who gives a rats hind quarters for this discussion? If you want to drink - drink - if you want to smoke - smoke - if you want to marry the family gold fish - go ahead....but no getting stoned and doing funny things with the fish...okay?

[benny]

No more wasting time on pot - who gives a rats hind quarters for this discussion? If you want to drink - drink - if you want to smoke - smoke - if you want to marry the family gold fish - go ahead....but no getting stoned and doing funny things with the fish...okay?

I'm fishing for tastier posts.

[Oleg Bach]

I'm fishing for tastier posts.

Don't feel like working that hard - it's Sunday...you want tastey then go harass Bush Cheney - or maybe Lictor...these guys are always very creative and funny - maybe if I was stoned I would satisfy you need for taste - but I don't smoke unless I run out of gin - and I do not drink every day....and if I do smoke some paranoid weed - I had better be drunk enough to tolerate the wicked weed....try some better bait - and cast out towards the weeds.....cheers.

[benny]

Don't feel like working that hard - it's Sunday...you want tastey then go harass Bush Cheney - or maybe Lictor...these guys are always very creative and funny - maybe if I was stoned I would satisfy you need for taste - but I don't smoke unless I run out of gin - and I do not drink every day....and if I do smoke some paranoid weed - I had better be drunk enough to tolerate the wicked weed....try some better bait - and cast out towards the weeds.....cheers.

If gin is a three-letter word like pot, it may have to do with their common degenerative effect.

[Oleg Bach]

The French used to call human sexual orgasm " the little death" - toxic sustances - or intoxicants - dope or booze brings a person though poisoning close to a death state - and for some strange reason....this boardering on death is a thrill...and yes it does not generate life but de-generates as you have just said...In nature - as you orgasm (uphoria) you are supposedly creating new life at that momen and ending your own...dope and booze if never discovered would have been a blessing - I guess it is like eating from the tree of human imagination and adventurism..thrill seeking....like a sparrow seeing how close it can come to the ground..without dashing itself to death.

[benny]

The French used to call human sexual orgasm " the little death" - toxic sustances - or intoxicants - dope or booze brings a person though poisoning close to a death state - and for some strange reason....this boardering on death is a thrill...and yes it does not generate life but de-generates as you have just said...In nature - as you orgasm (uphoria) you are supposedly creating new life at that momen and ending your own...dope and booze if never discovered would have been a blessing - I guess it is like eating from the tree of human imagination and adventurism..thrill seeking....like a sparrow seeing how close it can come to the ground..without dashing itself to death.

Hashish and assassin have also the same Persian linguistic root (etymology).

[BubberMiley]

The French used to call human sexual orgasm " the little death" - toxic sustances - or intoxicants - dope or booze brings a person though poisoning close to a death state - and for some strange reason....this boardering on death is a thrill...and yes it does not generate life but de-generates as you have just said...

Interesting in both its topic and punctuation, but completely irrelevant when discussing pot. Pot is not a poison. It doesn't kill brain cells like alcohol or other drugs, and No One Has Ever Died From Using It. People have died from drinking too much water, but no one has died from smoking too much weed.

[BubberMiley]

Must be the dope....a fate can most certainly be chosen.

You mean to say that the choices one makes can influence one's fate. That's certainly true. But no one chooses their fate, unless they're, like, god or something.

Always happy to help put in words what you mean to say.

[bush_cheney2004]

You mean to say that the choices one makes can influence one's fate. That's certainly true. But no one chooses their fate, unless they're, like, god or something.

Of course it's true (as stated)...I don't need words or verification from verbose dopers.

[BubberMiley]

Of course it's true (as stated)...I don't need words or verification from verbose dopers.

Perhaps you don't need verification, but you certainly needed clarification. We also need help with the definition of "fate," which is:

"fate   /feɪt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [feyt] Show IPA noun, verb, fat⋅ed, fat⋅ing.

–noun 1. something that unavoidably befalls a person; fortune; lot: It is always his fate to be left behind.

2. the universal principle or ultimate agency by which the order of things is presumably prescribed; the decreed cause of events; time: Fate decreed that they would never meet again.

3. that which is inevitably predetermined; destiny: Death is our ineluctable fate."

I guess I was wrong when I said the choices we make can influence our fate. It seems our fate was there all along.

Edited May 11, 2009 by BubberMiley

[bush_cheney2004]

...I guess I was wrong when I said the choices we make can influence our fate. It seems our fate was there all along.

You mean you were always fated to champion dope? Interesting.

[benny]

You mean you were always fated to champion dope? Interesting.

Accepting our fate leads to a constructive kind of repetitions, taking drugs leads to a destructive kind of repetitions.

[BubberMiley]

You mean you were always fated to champion dope? Interesting.

I don't believe in fate. I believe in free will. I choose to "champion" weed, or at least its decriminalization. But weed is not really "dope," as it has no effect on dopamine receptors in the brain.

Sorry if I'm getting too verbose for you though.

[benny]

I don't believe in fate. I believe in free will. I choose to "champion" weed, or at least its decriminalization. But weed is not really "dope," as it has no effect on dopamine receptors in the brain.

Sorry if I'm getting too verbose for you though.

Fate can be seen in people who carried a particular variety of a gene called catechol-o-methyl transferase (a gene involved in the synthesis of the brain chemical dopamine). These persons were about 11 times more likely to develop schizophrenia if they used marijuana.

[BubberMiley]

Interesting. Too bad criminalization has done nothing to prevent them from getting access to weed. Perhaps if it were properly regulated, more could be done to educate and prevent those who have this condition from using weed.

I know there are people with celiac disease who can't eat wheat, but I don't think anyone would criminalize their possession of a loaf of bread.

[benny]

Interesting. Too bad criminalization has done nothing to prevent them from getting access to weed. Perhaps if it were properly regulated, more could be done to educate and prevent those who have this condition from using weed.

I know there are people with celiac disease who can't eat wheat, but I don't think anyone would criminalize their possession of a loaf of bread.

If a lot of allergic people would die rapidly after their very first ingestion of peanuts, there is no doubt in my mind that it should be forbidden until we can discover before consumption which people have this allergy.

[bush_cheney2004]

I don't believe in fate. I believe in free will. I choose to "champion" weed, or at least its decriminalization. But weed is not really "dope," as it has no effect on dopamine receptors in the brain.

Gee, I wonder why we call it "dope" then? Either way, at last check it was still "criminalized"...better try harder.

Sorry if I'm getting too verbose for you though.

We know...it's the "weed" talking.