Gays spread HIV purposely.

blueblood · January 10, 2009

What that proves to me is that we need to give more education and support. As I've already said, shunning homosexuals will do nothing. Most people are who they are, and they really can't help it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being homosexual. People need to realize that.
Edit: My post seemed to imply that I was homosexual. I think I fixed that now.

Unfortunately people can shun homosexuals if they want to, it's a cruel world.

blueblood · January 10, 2009

There is nothing wrong with being homosexual but there is with purposely trying to spread HIV or get infected by HIV.

And we have laws that combat that. Ask the football player rotting in the clink in Saskatchewan.

Smallc · January 10, 2009

Unfortunately people can shun homosexuals if they want to, it's a cruel world.

I agree, and people should have that right (within reason). That doesn't mean that the shunning will do any good.

Smallc · January 10, 2009

but there is with purposely trying to spread HIV or get infected by HIV.

Of course there is. Just don't try to make it seem that only gays are doing such things.

Mr.Canada · January 10, 2009

And we have laws that combat that. Ask the football player rotting in the clink in Saskatchewan.

Yet we have record numbers of homosexuals who call themselves "bug-chasers" and spread HIV and getting infected purposely.

CANADIEN · January 10, 2009

There is nothing wrong with being homosexual but there is with purposely trying to spread HIV or get infected by HIV.

You got it.

Is it also true when it comes to hetersexuals doing it, and if so, why the whining when I pointed it out?

blueblood · January 10, 2009

There is nothing wrong with being homosexual but there is with purposely trying to spread HIV or get infected by HIV.

Oh really, that's quite a change in the position you held concerning your posts regarding trying to force your kids into the seminary if you suspected they were gay.

I'm sure the left leaning and centrist posters can elaborate on this further.

Mr.Canada · January 10, 2009

You got it.
Is it also true when it comes to hetersexuals doing it, and if so, why the whining when I pointed it out?

It's irrelevant the scope of the article pertains to homosexuals so the posts should concern the homosexuals affinity for spreading disease and wanting to be infected, calling themselves "bug-chasers".

This doesn't seem to be very moral or ethical to me but I guess when many people live without morals how can I expect others to know what they are. Homosexuals aren't the cute, campy people like you'd have us believe.

Ontario Loyalist · January 10, 2009

Hatred for homosexual is alive and well in our society. It does not need huge numbers. It just needs enough people saying often enough that gays and lesbians are lesser people, that they are a threat, that they should live in fear and self-loathing.

Hold on a second, I shouldn't have to live in a society in which I or my children are or could be subjected to sinful behaviour; humans being what they are, this may be wishful thinking, but I have every right to express my feelings on the matter. The person that engages in sinful behaviour is not "lesser" in terms of being a human being, but they do lower themselves on a moral level, and that's what the issue is. Not wanting people to engage in such behaviours, to raise themselves up from sin, is hardly "hatred". Moreover, considering the prevelance of such sinful behaviours, what's really "alive and well" in this society is a hatred of goodness and decency.

charter.rights · January 10, 2009

Hold on a second, I shouldn't have to live in a society in which I or my children are or could be subjected to sinful behaviour; humans being what they are, this may be wishful thinking, but I have every right to express my feelings on the matter. The person that engages in sinful behaviour is not "lesser" in terms of being a human being, but they do lower themselves on a moral level, and that's what the issue is. Not wanting people to engage in such behaviours, to raise themselves up from sin, is hardly "hatred". Moreover, considering the prevelance of such sinful behaviours, what's really "alive and well" in this society is a hatred of goodness and decency.

Sin is dead. It no longer exists UNLESS YOU choose to keep it alive.

If society needs to be protected...it is from people like you.

Edited January 10, 2009 by charter.rights

Ontario Loyalist · January 10, 2009

What that proves to me is that we need to give more education and support. As I've already said, shunning homosexuals will do nothing. Most people are who they are, and they really can't help it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being homosexual. People need to realize that.
Edit: My post seemed to imply that I was homosexual. I think I fixed that now.

Oh, so you're concerned about coming across as a homosexual, are you...? How interesting.

Whatever the case, you seem to be afflicted with the same sense of illogic that most people in the pro-gay camp have... homosexuals are not "shunned"--they engage in destructive, immoral and sinful behaviour that is inherently negative and corrupting, and so they place themselves in a position where they are sometimes not fully accepted. But of course all people have the ability to change their ways if they truly and sincerely choose, and in a number of cases people have broken free from the gay lifestyle. All you're arguments do is suggest that people are condemned to the gay lifestyle, that they can't change and better themselves. That in itself is very troubling.

Mr.Canada · January 10, 2009

Hold on a second, I shouldn't have to live in a society in which I or my children are or could be subjected to sinful behaviour; humans being what they are, this may be wishful thinking, but I have every right to express my feelings on the matter. The person that engages in sinful behaviour is not "lesser" in terms of being a human being, but they do lower themselves on a moral level, and that's what the issue is. Not wanting people to engage in such behaviours, to raise themselves up from sin, is hardly "hatred". Moreover, considering the prevelance of such sinful behaviours, what's really "alive and well" in this society is a hatred of goodness and decency.

You see OL. Anytime you disagree with anything the secular socialists include into their agenda and you get labeled. We must all raise our kids to love homosexuals according to the socialist agenda.

Charter.rights is in for a big surprise on Judgment Day. I truly feel sorry for you. It's your eternal soul, you should reconsider how you have chosen to spend the afterlife. Jesus Christ has the power to forgive all who will worship him and live as He has instructed.

Edited January 10, 2009 by Mr.Canada

Ontario Loyalist · January 10, 2009

Sin is dead. It no longer exists UNLESS YOU choose to keep it alive.
If society needs to be protected...it is from people like you.

Geez, you make it sound as though I'm the sexually and abusive male nurse who has taken up the Six Nations cause...

Mr.Canada · January 10, 2009

Sin is dead. It no longer exists UNLESS YOU choose to keep it alive.
If society needs to be protected...it is from people like you.

LOL. Typical secular socialist behavior. Yell real loud and name call.

Smallc · January 10, 2009

Oh, so you're concerned about coming across as a homosexual, are you...? How interesting.

No, I'm not concerned. There was a point in my life when I wasn't sure which sex I preferred if you must know. I realized that I am heterosexual (For the most part. They say no one is 100% straight or gay) and I didn't want to misrepresent myself.

That in itself is very troubling.

The way you view the "gay lifestyle" is very troubling to me.

Ontario Loyalist · January 10, 2009

You see OL. Anytime you disagree with anything the secular socialists include into their agenda and you get labeled. We must all raise our kids to love homosexuals according to the socialist agenda.

Yes, that's only to be expected. I used to see things their way to some extent, too; but now I know better...

Some of our people come from the East and they had to endure Communism, and what's happening in Canada in some respects is eerily similar. (What's become of the public school system is particularly a concern.) But in the end persecution is something that I expect and endure, as was the case for my forefathers.

bush_cheney2004 · January 10, 2009

....Jesus Christ has the power to forgive all who will worship him and live as He has instructed.

...who died and left him king?

charter.rights · January 10, 2009

Geez, you make it sound as though I'm the sexually and abusive male nurse who has taken up the Six Nations cause...

No. You're just a rabble rouser skin head pal from Binbrook.

CANADIEN · January 10, 2009

It's irrelevant the scope of the article pertains to homosexuals so the posts should concern the homosexuals affinity for spreading disease and wanting to be infected, calling themselves "bug-chasers".
This doesn't seem to be very moral or ethical to me but I guess when many people live without morals how can I expect others to know what they are. Homosexuals aren't the cute, campy people like you'd have us believe.

If someone was starting a thread on the well-documented cases of heterosexual men and women now rotting in jail for purposely infesting others with the HIV virus, you would be the first to point out that there are gay men doing it too. So spare us the whining, will you?

BTW, nobody here is saying that trying to infect others on purpose is ethical or moral. And nobody here is portraying homosexuals as being inherently better than heterosexuals, like you seem to say I do.

As for my posts, they will concern what I believe to be relevant to the issue at hand. But, since the article you quote in your initial post does not even mention words like ethics and morality, why don't you follow your own advice and refrain of mentioning them in your postings?

charter.rights · January 10, 2009

LOL. Typical secular socialist behavior. Yell real loud and name call.

Romans 6:7-11

For he that is dead is freed from sin. Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Ontario Loyalist · January 10, 2009

No, I'm not concerned. There was a point in my life when I wasn't sure which sex I preferred if you must know. I realized that I am heterosexual (For the most part. They say no one is 100% straight or gay) and I didn't want to misrepresent myself.

Right, and why is that. I've grown up in this society, too, with its inherent need to corrupt and degrade the individual, and I've had my fair share of difficult times; but that doesn't change the fact that I can recognize that there is a better way to live, that society can be better. No child/youth should have to grow up in an environment where evil and sin will corrupt them, where they will be confused and racked with doubt about their sexuality because people/influences are leading them astray into homosexuality and other deviant behaviours.

Ontario Loyalist · January 10, 2009

Romans 6:7-11
For he that is dead is freed from sin. Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Do you even know what that's all about?

Edited January 10, 2009 by Ontario Loyalist

Smallc · January 10, 2009

are leading them astray into homosexuality and other deviant behaviours.

I'm sorry, but you have no way to prove that homosexuality is "astray."

Drea · January 10, 2009

No child/youth should have to grow up in an environment where evil and sin will corrupt them, where they will be confused and racked with doubt about their sexuality because people/influences are leading them astray into homosexuality and other deviant behaviours.

No child/youth should have to grow up hiding who they are because a few people cannot accept them.

They will be confused and racked with guilt because their innate sexuality is considered "deviant" by others. They feel guilty because people like you have made them feel guilty.

They will hide who they are and not form close friendships because they are afraid of the reactionary people like you. They live their lives afraid until they are old enough to tell you to go to hell.