Mr.Canada Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) Growing numbers of gay men are having unprotected sex and some of them are either deliberately transmitting HIV to other men or are trying to get infected, says an alarmed academic. So-called bug-chasers are HIV-negative men who are either unopposed to getting infected or are actively pursuing it, says Kevin Alderson, an associate professor of counselling psychology at the University of Calgary. This is just alarming to say the least. This is what goes on in the homosexual areas of our cities? I find this to be immoral and unacceptable to purposely infect others or to want to be infected. Hey, it's their bodies right? That's what you guys said about abortion, so they have t he right to get HIV and spread it around right? After all it's their body. They may have a warped sense of altruism by wanting to pass something on to others or they may simply be "the worst kind of hedonistic psychopaths" who don't care about others, he says. Researchers estimate that up to 45% of gay men are engaging in unprotected sex, he adds. A 2005 U.S. study found that 77% of young gay males who tested positive for HIV incorrectly believed they were uninfected. In turn, gift-givers -- what a terrible misnomer -- are gay men who are willing to infect others Full Story/Source Well, this is seriously disturbing to say the least. So many paint the homosexuals to be moral and ethical people so I am quite surprised to have learned about this latest wrinkle. Seems that it's possible that perhaps the homosexual lifestyle is more irresponsible and immoral than we were once promised. Edited January 10, 2009 by Mr.Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) This is just alarming to say the least. This is what goes on in the homosexual areas of our cities? I find this to be immoral and unacceptable to purposely infect others or to want to be infected. Hey, it's their bodies right? That's what you guys said about abortion, so they have t he right to get HIV and spread it around right? After all it's their body.Full Story/Source Well, this is seriously disturbing to say the least. So many paint the homosexuals to be moral and ethical people so I am quite surprised to have learned about this latest wrinkle. Seems that it's possible that perhaps the homosexual lifestyle is more irresponsible and immoral than we were once promised. News to you There are huge numbers of heterosexual people who engage in unprotected sex too (and yes, they should be engaged iin sex with one partner in marriage). And there are heterosexual people who will try to infect others. As for the idea that there is a significant number of people who are TRYING to get AIDS, give me a break. The lack of concern by people for their health is disturbing, and so are attempts to inflict harm to others. That includes immoral and unethical attempts by so called Christians to use everything and anything to advance their twisted hateful agenda. Edited January 10, 2009 by CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted January 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 News to you There are huge numbers of heterosexual people who engage in unprotected sex too (and yes, they should be engaged iin sex with one partner in marriage). And there are heterosexual people who will try to infect others.Irrelevant. This topic is about homosexuals stay on topic please.As for the idea that there is a significant number of people who are TRYING to get AIDS, give me a break. Hard to believe I know but it's in the MSM so it must be true. If it isn't they'll be sued right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Irrelevant. This topic is about homosexuals stay on topic please. This topic is about aids and you have twisted it to fit your agenda. The poster was simply bringing up an important point that counters your claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted January 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 This topic is about aids and you have twisted it to fit your agenda. The poster was simply bringing up an important point that counters your claim. The topic is about homosexuals who spread HIV purposely. It's my topic I should know what it's about. Well I want some cite that says they don't if you want to counter my claim and my cite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Hmmm, the Sun...of course its alarming...they're sort of like the National Enquirer of Canadian reportage aren't they? "To be fair, the majority of HIV-positive people do tell their partners before they involve themselves in any sexual activity. But there are those who don't." To also be fair I bet dollars to donuts the numbers of heterosexuals who also do or don't are proportionate. The ratio of homophobes to homos of course remains way way out of proportion compared to the number of heterophobes and heteros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 What's the big deal, there is already a law on the books concerning this type of unethical behavior. Ask the ex football player from Regina how the clink is. It's unethical people who spread HIV/AIDS, not just homosexuals. I am now stupider for having read your allegation that all homosexuals want to spread aids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) The topic is about homosexuals who spread HIV purposely. It's my topic I should know what it's about. You sure you know what the topic is? In another posting you claimed it was about homosexuals, meaning all of them. But since it is about homosexuals who spread HIV purposely, mentions of the fact there are heterosexual men who do the same are very much on topic. They bring the whole issue into its true perspective, which is the lack of concern of too many people in our society (both homo and hetero) for their own health and the health of others. Well I want some cite that says they don't if you want to counter my claim and my cite. Anybody has claimed here that there are no homosexuals purposely spreading HIV? No. Now, if you believe that no heterosexual does the same, please show your proof. Edited January 10, 2009 by CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I am now stupider for having read your allegation that all homosexuals want to spread aids. Yes, yes we are. Thankfully we will never stoop as low in stupidity as the one who said it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 There is a noted indifference in the "gay community" towards spreading HIV/AIDs, though. Needless to say, homosexuality is the manifestation of an inner self-hate, self-destructive tendancies, and this is just one way in which it works corrupt and undermine others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charter.rights Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 There is a noted indifference in the "non-gay community" towards spreading HIV/AIDs, though. Needless to say, homosexuality is the manifestation of an inner self-hate, self-destructive tendancies, and this is just one way in which it works corrupt and undermine others. I fixed your quote. There was a comprehension error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Needless to say, homosexuality is the manifestation of an inner self-hate, self-destructive tendancies, and this is just one way in which it works corrupt and undermine others. "Needless to say", you are an idiot. Or you could prove us all wrong and post cites from scientists or Doctors that have published studies agreeing with you. Cue the link in 1 2 3 .........Westboro Baptist Studies link..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) There is a noted indifference in the "gay community" towards spreading HIV/AIDs, though. Needless to say, homosexuality is the manifestation of an inner self-hate, self-destructive tendancies, and this is just one way in which it works corrupt and undermine others. Homosexuality the manifestation of an inner self-hate? What a load of c**p. True there are many, far too many, homosexuals who hate themselves, but it is primarily because of how often they're told they are somehow less valuable annd less humans because of who they are. If anything, it is the homophobia and the other forms of bigotry that are in many response a response to an inner sense of inadequacy. Edited January 10, 2009 by CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Needless to say, homosexuality is the manifestation of an inner self-hate Since there's no reason to think that your statement is correct, I agree, it was needless to say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted January 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) I love watching the socialists scramble to change the topic and hijack my thread....priceless. Not one person has quoted and directly responded to the OP. Hilarious. Researchers estimate that up to 45% of gay men are engaging in unprotected sex, he adds. A 2005 U.S. study found that 77% of young gay males who tested positive for HIV incorrectly believed they were uninfected. Source 45% is a very high number. I'd guess it's much higher than hetro numbers. 77% of positive HIV tests thought they were negative. And people wonder why there's an epidemic in the homosexual lifestyle. Edited January 10, 2009 by Mr.Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charter.rights Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Homosexuality the manifestation of an inner self-hate? What a load of c**p. True there are many, far too many, homosexuals who hate themselves, but it is primarily because of how often they're told they are somehow less valuable annd less humans because of who they are.If anything, it is the homophobia and the other forms of bigotry that are in many response a response to an inner sense of inadequacy. The same can be said for other types of racism, xenophobia and other socio-phobias that seek to keep people down because others don't understand them or fear them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) I love watching the socialists scramble to change the topic and hijack my thread....priceless. Not one person has quoted and directly responded to the OP. Hilarious. News to you. Nobody is being fooled. The full and sole intent of your initial posting is to spread homophobia. And to you, responding to your posting can only mean agreeing with your homophobia. If you can't deal with the fact we all know it, tough. That being said, I can see why you don't like to be reminded that both SOME gays and SOME heterosexual engage in unprotected sex, some with the intent to make others sick. It derails the homophobic train. Edited January 10, 2009 by CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Since there's no reason to think that your statement is correct, I agree, it was needless to say it. Homosexuality is self-destructive behaviour, and people who engage in such lifestyles are much more likely to engage in other self-destructive behaviours, such as suicide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Homosexuality the manifestation of an inner self-hate? What a load of c**p. True there are many, far too many, homosexuals who hate themselves, but it is primarily because of how often they're told they are somehow less valuable annd less humans because of who they are.If anything, it is the homophobia and the other forms of bigotry that are in many response a response to an inner sense of inadequacy. Well, no, because apparently the vast majority of people "support" gay marriage, gay rights, and the "equality" of the homosexual lifestyle, but the issues of self-hate and self-destructiveness among homosexuals persists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Homosexuality is self-destructive behaviour, And how do you know this? The second part of your post doesn't prove anything related to this. What it does prove is that the needs (societal) of people who prefer the same sex are not being met today. It means we need to do more. Shunning homosexuals isn't the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationwor...0,5835374.story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) What that proves to me is that we need to give more education and support. As I've already said, shunning homosexuals will do nothing. Most people are who they are, and they really can't help it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being homosexual. People need to realize that. Edit: My post seemed to imply that I was homosexual. I think I fixed that now. Edited January 10, 2009 by Smallc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I love watching the socialists scramble to change the topic and hijack my thread....priceless. Not one person has quoted and directly responded to the OP. Hilarious.45% is a very high number. I'd guess it's much higher than hetro numbers. 77% of positive HIV tests thought they were negative. And people wonder why there's an epidemic in the homosexual lifestyle. Read my signature and take the test, do I look like a socialist to you? 100% of hetero and homo people had unprotected sex in the thirties and earlier. What relevance do your numbers mean? By your logic, in the thirties and earlier, there would be an epidemic of STD's of biblical proportions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Well, no, because apparently the vast majority of people "support" gay marriage, gay rights, and the "equality" of the homosexual lifestyle, but the issues of self-hate and self-destructiveness among homosexuals persists. Hatred for homosexual is alive and well in our society. It does not need huge numbers. It just needs enough people saying often enough that gays and lesbians are lesser people, that they are a threat, that they should live in fear and self-loathing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted January 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 What that proves to me is that we need to give more education and support. As I've already said, shunning homosexuals will do nothing. Most people are who they are, and they really can't help it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being homosexual. People need to realize that.Edit: My post seemed to imply that I was homosexual. I think I fixed that now. There is nothing wrong with being homosexual but there is with purposely trying to spread HIV or get infected by HIV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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