Secu-Socialist war on Jesus Christ

[Mr.Canada]

CLANG!!!

Mr. Canada always posts facts. Generally of the erroneous variety.

Palestine was under British control, the French and the Turks also controlled parts. Do you disagree with that?

What does clang mean?

Edited December 18, 2008 by Mr.Canada

[Oleg Bach]

Palestine was under British control, the French and the Turks also controlled parts. Do you disagree with that?

What does clang mean?

It's the sound of the bell at a boxing match - can I be your cut man?

[Mr.Canada]

It's the sound of the bell at a boxing match - can I be your cut man?

Thanks I don't troll so I wouldn't know. Facts that people don't like make them attack me personally. I find it hilarious. They aren't used to someone like me who is quick witted and posts many obscure but factual excerpts. The speed of my brain waves is what really ticks them off. They get so frustrated that they give up disagreeing with me and just attack the poster. Typical.

[guyser]

Facts that people don't like make them attack me personally. I find it hilarious.

Nah, we like facts, but the true facts are the ones we really like. Not the ones that clang around in that noggin of yours.

Of course you find it hilarious. Perhaps if you understood it you may not.

. The speed of my brain waves is what really ticks them off. They get so frustrated that they give up disagreeing with me and just attack the poster. Typical.

Your brain waves are about on par with the three toed sloth, perhaps a wee bit less mobile though.

[Oleg Bach]

There is an ancient definition of demon - a speedy and amazingly fast spirit - that can dash about and really irritate you. Mr C may have the proverbial bat in the bellfry....and it might just be jacked up on sugar.

[M.Dancer]

Palestine was under British control, the French and the Turks also controlled parts. Do you disagree with that?

When Canada was formed Arabs were British subjects.

Yep. 75% wrong...you were right about the turks...except they controlled all of it.

What does clang mean?

A clang is when you post a pulsebrained clanger....

[M.Dancer]

They aren't used to someone like me who is quick witted ....

Quite right, we aren't used to someone like you who is quick witted. So far that combination hasn't seen fit to grace these halls...

[M.Dancer]

In 1516 the Ottoman Turks occupied Palestine[3]. The country became part of the Ottoman Empire. Constantinople appointed local governors. Public works, including the city walls, were rebuilt in Jerusalem by Suleiman the Magnificent in 1537. An area around Tiberias was given to Don Joseph HaNasi for a Jewish enclave. Following the expulsions from Spain, the Jewish population of Palestine rose to around 25% (includes non-Ottoman citizens, excludes Bedouin) and regained its former stronghold of Eastern Galilee. That ended in 1660 when they were massacred at Safed and Jerusalem. During the reign of Dahar al Omar, Pasha of the Galilee, Jews from Ukraine began to resettle Tiberias.

Napoleon of France briefly waged war against the Ottoman Empire (allied then with Great Britain). His forces conquered and occupied cities in Palestine, but they were finally defeated and driven out by 1801. In 1799 Napoleon announced a plan to re-establish a Jewish State in Palestine which was mostly to curry favour with Haim Farkhi the Jewish finance minister and adviser to the Pasha of Syria/Palestine. He was later assassinated and his brothers formed an army with Ottoman permission to conquer the Galilee. Turkish rule lasted until World War I.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Pa...eriod_1517-1917

[LesterDC]

I prefer to live in reality.

Easy for you to say.. What about the millions of Canadians who are not Christians?

[Mr.Canada]

Yep. 75% wrong...you were right about the turks...except they controlled all of it.

A clang is when you post a pulsebrained clanger....

From 1517-1917 Palestine was controlled by the Ottoman Empire which was strongly allied with the British.

1917-1948 Palestine had a British mandate.

1948-present Israel.

All can be found here

Well they weren't British subjects until 1917 but previous to that they had a lot of claims in the area and wielded a lot of power. As GB abd thye ottoman empire were very close friends with many ties to each other.

[Mr.Canada]

Easy for you to say.. What about the millions of Canadians who are not Christians?

Too bad, the majority are. It's about ime we ruled to the majority instead of forcing tolerance on the majority it's the minority who need some tolerance of the majorities ways. Or find some other country to live in.

[Mr.Canada]

hey will often call Christians extremists and racists, homophobic etc and in the same breath hug the jihadist for having the same principals thus proving that the war is only against Christianity. These Jihadists are killing people daily, cutting off limbs, executing homosexuals, stoning innocent people to death yet there is no public outcry against Islam. This sentiment is reserved for those that revere the name of Jesus Christ.

[LesterDC]

Too bad, the majority are. It's about ime we ruled to the majority instead of forcing tolerance on the majority it's the minority who need some tolerance of the majorities ways. Or find some other country to live in.

Sure.. 51% of the country takes away the rights of the other 49%..

What is so wrong about libertarianism? Your life is your own business is it not?

[Mr.Canada]

Sure.. 51% of the country takes away the rights of the other 49%..

What is so wrong about libertarianism? Your life is your own business is it not?

About 80% of the country are Christians not 51%. It doesn't look that way to you in city I'm sure but there is more tot the country than what Toronto thinks is best for the rest of us.

[WIP]

It's quite evident in everyday life. Gay marriage, abortions that kill babies, removal of the Lord's Prayer from public schools, the apparent banning of the word Christmas in public.

Replace "Christian" with "Islam" and you can find the source of this strategy since the continual refrain:"Islam is under attack," has been used by the mullahs to increase their stranglehold on predominantly Muslim countries since the end of the pan-arab nationalism and secularism ended 40 years ago. They already were an onerous burden on their societies, but every bad news story, from defeat on the battlefield in Palestine to unease over the growing influence of Western entertainment and media culture, was spun as attacks on Islam.......and they don't allow gay marriage either, so I guess you guys have a lot of common interests other than your competing goals of religious domination.

Your concern over gay marriage is a tipoff to those who don't share your vision that like the Muslim fundamentalists, Christian fundamentalists believe every facet of society should be under their control; otherwise what business is it of yours if gay men or lesbians want to get married? I've been married for 21 years (plus 3 years common-law), I'm still waiting for the explanation of how allowing gay marriage threatens my marriage or anyone else's! This is just a matter of fundamentalists determined to exert control over people who don't want to share their fantasy life, and nothing more.

Is abortion always wrong? Is a fertilized egg with no brain or nervous system worthy of human rights, enough to deny embryonic stem cell research or deny emergency contraception? It's not for any rational person who thinks for themselves instead of blindly following dogma or orders from their priests. And if fundamentalists get their way and recriminalize it, will that stop abortion? Or just send it to the blackmarket like drugs and prostitution?

The lobby to ban the Separate school board and its funding. Attacks on the Pope by people who aren't even Catholics and is none of their business how Catholics run the Church they aren't apart of and political correctness can all be viewed as attacks on Christianity.

Well, if the Pope and his underlings feel free to attack atheists, agnostics, deists etc., even openly encouraging an alliance with Muslims in Europe to fight secularism, then every secularist who values keeping religion at arms length, and out of politics, government and law, has an obligation to return fire!

And if non-Catholics are financing their indoctrination, we have another reason to have something to say about it. Here in Ontario, we are funding Catholic schools in a parallel public school system, where the Catholic Church, and the Catholic Church alone is given the privilege of having a tax-funded education system that allows their indoctrination. They even disregard the few provisions that were applied when they were granted full funding to grade 12 back in the 70's - their schools were supposed to be open to non-Catholic students, which they routinely violate by claiming not to have available spaces, and they are free to ban books that are available in the regular public school system.

If the Catholics want to pay for their own schools, they can pretty well teach whatever they want just like the other private religious schools. During the last provincial election in Ontario, the people spoke loud and clear about this issue when they returned a lacklustre Liberal government because the idiot leading the Conservatives (John Tory) thought the time was right to start pandering to the fundamentalists and extend public financing to all of the other religious schools....well, this isn't South Carolina....at least not yet! Tory got shot down in flames over this issue and polling done during the election revealed that the majority of Ontarians want ONE public school system, not TWO, so in this neck of the woods, the religious right will have to keep focusing on brainwashing at the grassroots level before they can force the kind of changes they want at the ballot box.

[Mr.Canada]

Catholics don't have middle school. Only primary(1-8) and secondary(9-OAC). Primary school is only for Catholics no matter what. The parents must show proof of baptismal. Secondary school is more open as long as they agree to take part in and respect Catholic traditions and ways. If they fail to do this, they get expelled and can go to public school.

Hrm, all of these shootings and stabbings are happening at public schools but I'm sure that has nothing to do with it right?

Catholic schools teach respect and responsibility. Public schools teach whatever is popular with the NDP.

Edited December 18, 2008 by Mr.Canada

[LesterDC]

About 80% of the country are Christians not 51%. It doesn't look that way to you in city I'm sure but there is more tot the country than what Toronto thinks is best for the rest of us.

It was a Jefferson quote.. It doesn't matter, people should have no right to tell other people how to act spiritually.. You have a problem with libertarianism? If the guy down the street is Muslim, what are you going to do? Why should you do anything? We have individual rights and freedoms here

[Mr.Canada]

It was a Jefferson quote.. It doesn't matter, people should have no right to tell other people how to act spiritually.. You have a problem with libertarianism? If the guy down the street is Muslim, what are you going to do? Why should you do anything? We have individual rights and freedoms here

When their religion is killing people it become my business.

[cybercoma]

Once you invade the inside of someones head and insist on installing or removing certain thoughts and beliefs - you totally destroy and disrespect the human rights of the individual...

I guess we better stop educating society.

[LesterDC]

When their religion is killing people it become my business.

And the Buddhist monks are killing your "people"?

[stignasty]

1917-1948 Palestine had a British mandate.

You know what a mandate is, right?

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/leagcov.asp#art22

To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

The best method of giving practical effect to this principle is that the tutelage of such peoples should be entrusted to advanced nations who by reason of their resources, their experience or their geographical position can best undertake this responsibility, and who are willing to accept it, and that this tutelage should be exercised by them as Mandatories on behalf of the League.

The character of the mandate must differ according to the stage of the development of the people, the geographical situation of the territory, its economic conditions and other similar circumstances.

Certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire have reached a stage of development where their existence as independent nations can be provisionally recognized subject to the rendering of administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone. The wishes of these communities must be a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory.

They were not British subjects. A small part of the Arab world was under British control many years after Confederation.

Anyway, since your original "point" was:

When Canada was formed Arabs were British subjects.

Are you now going to argue that Canada was formed sometime between 1917 and 1948?

[M.Dancer]

From 1517-1917 Palestine was controlled by the Ottoman Empire which was strongly allied with the British.

1917-1948 Palestine had a British mandate.

1948-present Israel.

All can be found here

Well they weren't British subjects until 1917 but previous to that they had a lot of claims in the area and wielded a lot of power. As GB abd thye ottoman empire were very close friends with many ties to each other.

You have gone from posting erronneous facts to irrelevant ones.

Who cares?

[M.Dancer]

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Hrm, all of these shootings and stabbings are happening at public schools but I'm sure that has nothing to do with it right?

CLANG!

Pulsebrained posts, yet again...

[Canadian Blue]

Secu-Socialist war on Jesus Christ, Tolerant of all except Christians

When anybody else saw the topic title did they immediately think it would like to a Stephen Colbert video.

[kimmy]

One of the funnier things in this thread is the idea that Christianity alone is a target for us humanists.

Anybody who's been around for even a little while should be familiar with the ass-kicking Islam takes on this message board.

-k