Mr.Canada Posted November 2, 2008 Author Report Posted November 2, 2008 (edited) And I'm sure you're wrong. If I would be happier at Rabble, I would have registered there instead of here. I like intelligent dissenting opinions and views; which should have been clear from my previous post in this thread. I agree with Sir Bandelot-- it's the childish silliness, along with the posting of lies/purposely completely misrepresenting what someone has said and/or done soley for the purpose of antagonizing, that keeps people who are interested in intelligent, adult-level discussion/debate away. Unless you think calling Barack Obama "Osama" or "Hussein Obama" is intelligent discussion-- and you think posters making stuff up about candidates they don't agree with is simply "disagreeing with what say?" Like Sir Bandalot, I, too, would like to discuss real issues-- and I'd like to do it honestly, adult-to-adult. But believe me, if I do ever decide to try posting there instead of here, it'll be with the name I registered under after reading this thread since I thought I had to register in order to see the whole board-- which is AmericanWoman. Barrack Hussein Obama is the mans legal name. A man with 3 Muslim names running for President. Edited November 2, 2008 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
jdobbin Posted November 2, 2008 Report Posted November 2, 2008 Barrack Hussein Obama is the mans legal name. A man with 3 Muslim names running for President. And a terrorist to boot. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted November 2, 2008 Author Report Posted November 2, 2008 And a terrorist to boot. Lol, now I never said that my fellow combatant. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Black Dog Posted November 2, 2008 Report Posted November 2, 2008 Argus: Apparently you're quite mistaken, as almost everyone here seems to have been banned there at one time or another. You're right: almost everyone here who trolled that board has been banned, some more than once. Which actually says more about their character than rabble's. There are very few Canadian political discussion forums so it's unsurprising that some with centre or centre right views would mistakenly wander in there and think they're allowed to express an opinion. Again, centre right and even right posters are allowed to express opinion and they do. They are not allowed to troll, which is the issue here. Perhaps if the site posted very clearly that Judy Rebick was one of the co-founders people would be more likely to understand that anything other than far left views would create hysteria and outrage among the inhabitants. I think it's pretty clear that all the delicate flowers here crying over their bans from there new exactly the nature of that board, which is why they went there: to stir shit up Typical left-wing discussion tactics. If the opposing person starts to actually win an argument or you say something that isn't socialist the left winger will either move to kick you out or attempt to discredit you by calling you a fascist or some other nonsense. I seldom use the ignore feature, but I'm sure glad to know its there. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted November 2, 2008 Author Report Posted November 2, 2008 I seldom use the ignore feature, but I'm sure glad to know its there. Thanks for proving my point. As you guys can see he has lost his argument with me and now will use the ignore feature instead of admitting defeat. I'm the "delicate flower"? lol, yeah right. Run away little boy, run away. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Wild Bill Posted November 2, 2008 Report Posted November 2, 2008 Argus:You're right: almost everyone here who trolled that board has been banned, some more than once. Which actually says more about their character than rabble's. Again, centre right and even right posters are allowed to express opinion and they do. They are not allowed to troll, which is the issue here. I think it's pretty clear that all the delicate flowers here crying over their bans from there new exactly the nature of that board, which is why they went there: to stir shit up I seldom use the ignore feature, but I'm sure glad to know its there. All I can go by is my own personal experience. I do NOT believe I trolled that board! I DO believe I was polite and civilized in ALL my posts! Yet I WAS summarily dissed and pissed! So frankly, you can mouth all the convoluted arguments you want but since you only contradict my direct personal experience I have the choice between believing that I was totally mistaken and my senses lied about reality or that you are full of hooey! I choose to believe the latter. Now, since I believe you to be full of it perhaps you can tell me just exactly what "hooey" IS? Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
myata Posted November 2, 2008 Report Posted November 2, 2008 I agree its healthy to have real debate. The problem is this always invites trolls and flamers. If the debates degenerate into childish pissing matches, I too get turned off. I'd like to discuss real issues, not argue with kids about silliness. And some are only practicing their arguing skills, they don't necessarily believe what they are saying. Those communications are counter-productive in my view and could make valuable members lose interest, to the detriment of a forum. But that is the constant struggle whenever we allow free speech. Well said. And in that particular place they solved the problem (of unsolicited advise, argument, etc) in that particular way. Which is fully in their right. There's any number of other forums that don't do that, and most certainly and fully in line with the tradition and law of free speech one's always entitled to start a new one. Nobody seem to be having any problem with that save this quite peculiar breed of people who feel the call, urge, etc) to teach and preach to others what they should and should not be doing. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
WIP Posted November 3, 2008 Report Posted November 3, 2008 Your post wasn't true. I don't blame people for being tired of having to waste their time refuting lies like that or responding to posts like "Mr. Canada's" saying many on the left don't work and never will because then they can't protest with "urban terror group(s)" like OCAP. I can understand why they would want to discuss how best to deal with issues that they feel are important rather than waste their time refuting such nonsense or convincing people who'll never listen/change their minds that the issues they find important ARE important. That's not their goal. They know what they find important and that's what they'd like to discuss. I think we have to waste an awful lot of time refuting lies/nonsense on this board, refuting people who like nothing better than to antagonize those who don't agree with them, and that, along with having to see Obama referred to as "Hussein" and "Osama" along with similar childish nonsense is why I don't waste/spend much time here any more. So this is what I'm missing out on! I figured if I took a week or so off away from this forum, I might actually feel like joining in on the discussions again, but instead it's the same brainless rants -- this one apparently revolves around indignation that the NDP want to run their own leftwing forum! This place gets stupider by the day! I would like to join the effort to refute lies and nonsense, but what's the use? These guys pay no attention when these arguments are refuted the first time around, why would they bother listening now? And the main culprits here are writing up to 100 posts per day, filled with material copied from the same Republican bloggers who've been recycling the same stories over and over again, and that's why a claim about Barack Obama being a secret Muslim will never go away. They'll still be talking about it after the election's over. Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
White Doors Posted November 3, 2008 Report Posted November 3, 2008 You know, the biggest problem with having the worlds smallest violin, is that you can never find it when you need it. Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
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