Quebec group requests French citizenship

[Leafless]

She's a Quebecer with roots dating back to the 1650s, but Marie Mance Vallée hopes she can celebrate next year's Bastille Day with a French passport.

"It's a question of identity," she said. "I never thought of myself as Canadian. The word means nothing to me.

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/s...56-1a8347d90324

Here is absolute proof how divisive culture is to Canadian unity.

Some Blacks are no better, denouncing Canadian or U.S. culture, in favour of the Black African culture.

When minority cultures cannot accept the primary culture that is responsible for the creation of Canada namely the White, English speaking culture of the Anglosphere, then the country is in trouble.

[guyser]

Here is absolute proof how divisive culture is to Canadian unity.

Where? I didnt see it.

Oh you mean that one woman. Right......one person equal all. Got it.

Some Blacks are no better, denouncing Canadian or U.S. culture, in favour of the Black African culture.

And obviously, some whites arent either. Ahem....pointing at the poster.

When minority cultures cannot accept the primary culture that is responsible for the creation of Canada namely the White, English speaking culture of the Anglosphere, then the country is in trouble.

Funny, werent there two founding cultures?

[seabee]

If the English were responsible for the creation of Canada, then there would have been no need to conquer anything over here.

[seabee]

The part "When minority cultures cannot accept the primary culture [...], then the country is in trouble." is accurate and applies to all countries. The best proof is that in Canada, the french colony part of Nouvelle-France, later renamed "Province of Quebec" had, in 1774, only 360 British families, while the primary culture was about 100,000 Canadiens. Yet this tiny minority of supremacist troublemakers never accepted the primary culture and spread like a cancer. And today, more than two centuries later, look at the sad state of the federal Dominion of Canada.

[AngusThermopyle]

Yet this tiny minority of supremacist troublemakers never accepted the primary culture and spread like a cancer. And today, more than two centuries later, look at the sad state of the federal Dominion of Canada.

Sure sure, it would be so much better if it had all been French, right. I guess there were never any "supremacist troublemakers" amongst the French, right.

What a bonehead.

[Smallc]

And today, more than two centuries later, look at the sad state of the federal Dominion of Canada.

Oh yes, Canada is a horrible place.

[blueblood]

The part "When minority cultures cannot accept the primary culture [...], then the country is in trouble." is accurate and applies to all countries. The best proof is that in Canada, the french colony part of Nouvelle-France, later renamed "Province of Quebec" had, in 1774, only 360 British families, while the primary culture was about 100,000 Canadiens. Yet this tiny minority of supremacist troublemakers never accepted the primary culture and spread like a cancer. And today, more than two centuries later, look at the sad state of the federal Dominion of Canada.

Well when one destroys the French in Battle, one can be supremacist.

And during the American Revolution thousands of Loyalists came to Quebec and became dominant.

If that Quebec Group wants French Citizenship because they hate Canada so much, they can hop on a plane and emmigrate. Nobody is forcing them to stay.

Sad state of Canada? We're one of the richest countries in the world, we could be richer but one area of Canada likes to blow money on Culture and language.

[Wilber]

So she wants a French passport, big deal. I'm sure she won't be sending back any cheques from the Canadian government after she moves. My mother is a Brit war bride so technically I am entitled to a British passport, so what. So this woman has no affinity for the country which gave her everything she has, let her move to France because it's my guess that most Quebecers, separatists or no, don't have any interest in becoming another province of France. Why would they struggle for independence only to become a colony again? She sounds like a spoiled brat believing she is entitled to her entitlements though she did nothing to earn them.

[AngusThermopyle]

Let her have her French citizenship, then she can pack her arse off to France where she'll belong.

[seabee]

And anglo-Canadians should have british citizenship, as was the case until 1947, so they can pack and go back where they belong.

[Leafless]

Where? I didnt see it.

Oh you mean that one woman. Right......one person equal all. Got it.

Quebecois are behind her hoping for a domino effect:

If Ms. Vallée is successful, it would be a boon to the approximately five million French descendants living in Quebec, says the group, Imperatif français, which promotes French language and culture.

"It could definitely add to Quebec's French identity," said Jean-Paul Perreault, president of Imperatif francais. "They would also be able to take advantage of duel citizenship, so that's very beneficial."

And obviously, some whites arent either. Ahem....pointing at the poster.

Denouncing the White, English speaking culture of the Anglosphere is the last thing I would ever do.

Funny, werent there two founding cultures?

Founding cultures of what?

Quebec was not a founding member of the Canadian confederation.

Canada was CREATED by confederation out of the old province of Canada.

Edited July 12, 2008 by Leafless

[Leafless]

And anglo-Canadians should have british citizenship, as was the case until 1947, so they can pack and go back where they belong.

Before 1947 all Canadians were British subjects.

To-day we are all Canadians.

This should make you very happy to be a Canadian.

[seabee]

This should make you very happy to be a Canadian.

Why?

To-day we are all Canadians.

Not necessarily. We just all have a canadian citizenship, just an administrative document, nothing more. Nothing to do with nations. Ask the First Nations, designated as such in the canadian consitution.

Edited July 12, 2008 by seabee

[blueblood]

And anglo-Canadians should have british citizenship, as was the case until 1947, so they can pack and go back where they belong.

Why, we kicked the French's arse in the Seven Years war, we like it here and created a very prosperous society.

When the Frenchies can lick the anglo's in battle, you can tell us what to do.

For now, if you don't like how we anglo's do things, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

[seabee]

When the Frenchies can lick the anglo's in battle, you can tell us what to do.

Apparently, you are against democracy, the rule of law, constitutional documents, etc. Only violence. Sorry, but Québécois won't play by those rules. They just want to ruin your economy and milk you dry, led by John "Captain Canada" Charest [fiscal imbalance]

don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Even you doors are violent. You let your doors do the dirty jobs for you now?

[blueblood]

Apparently, you are against democracy, the rule of law, constitutional documents, etc. Only violence. Sorry, but Québécois won't play by those rules. They just want to ruin your economy and milk you dry, led by John "Captain Canada" Charest [fiscal imbalance]

Even you doors are violent. You let your doors do the dirty jobs for you now?

Nope pro democracy, Anglos form majority in Canada and we call the shots, Quebecers should be thankful for our benevolence. It would appear that the Frenchie separatitsts are anti democracy, rule of law, and anti constitutional, bill 101 anyone? Reasonable Accomodation? In Manitoba French and English people live in harmony, get along and don't sponge off each other, Quebecers can take lessons.

Piss I wouldn't blame the Frenchies for being anti-violent, they have a history of getting their ass handed to them.

Gilles Duceppe would ruin milk us dry much faster than Charest.

If Canada is such a dive, hop on a plane and leave, it will benefit everyone.

Edited July 13, 2008 by blueblood

[CANADIEN]

If Canada is such a dive, hop on a plane and leave, it will benefit everyone.

And I'll help you pack. In the meantime, keep referring to some of your fellow Canadians as Frenchies and talking about a war 250 years old... I love to see people kick their own ass the way you do.

[Smallc]

Why do so many people have trouble loving the entire country? I love Canada, every part of it.

Edited July 17, 2008 by Smallc

[M.Dancer]

Why do so many people have trouble loving the entire country? I love Canada, every part of it.

I'm not too keen on the Lachine Canal, Halifax Harbour or the parking lot/garbage area of the Hope Street Cafe/What a Bagel.

[Smallc]

I'm not too keen on the Lachine Canal, Halifax Harbour or the parking lot/garbage area of the Hope Street Cafe/What a Bagel.

Lol, you know what I meant.

[CANADIEN]

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/s...56-1a8347d90324

Here is absolute proof how divisive culture is to Canadian unity.

Some Blacks are no better, denouncing Canadian or U.S. culture, in favour of the Black African culture.

When minority cultures cannot accept the primary culture that is responsible for the creation of Canada namely the White, English speaking culture of the Anglosphere, then the country is in trouble.

I for one am Canadian, not French, and I have no more interest or desire to become a French citizen than to become a British, New Zealander or Ethiopian citizen.

That being said,it is evident that this woman and the small number of people who share her idea believe they are not Canadians... your opion too Leafless, let's not forget that.

And let's not forget either that the Egnlsih-Canadian culture is not the American culture, or the English culture, or the Jamaican culture. There is no single "Anglosphere" culture, so stop dissing one of the fundamental cultures of this country.

Or that Black Canadians take their cultural queues from urban Black American culture, not African culture....

And that what you seek is not acceptance, but assimilation.

And that you will never get it, like with most of what you talk about.

[Leafless]

I for one am Canadian, not French, and I have no more interest or desire to become a French citizen than to become a British, New Zealander or Ethiopian citizen.

That being said,it is evident that this woman and the small number of people who share her idea believe they are not Canadians... your opion too Leafless, let's not forget that.

And let's not forget either that the Egnlsih-Canadian culture is not the American culture, or the English culture, or the Jamaican culture. There is no single "Anglosphere" culture, so stop dissing one of the fundamental cultures of this country.

Or that Black Canadians take their cultural queues from urban Black American culture, not African culture....

And that what you seek is not acceptance, but assimilation.

And that you will never get it, like with most of what you talk about.

You haven't got a clue what your talking about.

Ever since Quebec derailed Canada's Western, White, English speaking, Christian culture and transposed the meaning of the word multiculturalism to include every foreign nationality in existence including Quebec, replaced Canada's first and foremost majority culture.

This is the end result of the continuation of the battle of the Plains of Abraham between the English and the French, but fought not with guns but competing federal dysfunctional illogical federal governments on a basis of French culture.

The Queen and our primary constitution has failed Canada and has allowed corrupt treasonous government to rule the land, by agreeing to the repatriation of the constitution.

[blueblood]

And I'll help you pack. In the meantime, keep referring to some of your fellow Canadians as Frenchies and talking about a war 250 years old... I love to see people kick their own ass the way you do.

Im happy living here, I don't have the desire to leave, unlike some in Quebec. We won that war and they lost. It was the TSN turning point in Canadian history. If the Frenchies won, we'd be playing by their rules.

I don't refer to Quebec Separatists as fellow Canadians, they are traitors and if they don't like Canada they can hop on a plane and leave.

[CANADIEN]

Im happy living here, I don't have the desire to leave, unlike some in Quebec. We won that war and they lost. It was the TSN turning point in Canadian history. If the Frenchies won, we'd be playing by their rules.

I don't refer to Quebec Separatists as fellow Canadians, they are traitors and if they don't like Canada they can hop on a plane and leave.

Check your calendar. We're in 2008.

And once again, I am a Canadian, not a Frenchie. If you are too blinded bt prejudice to understand that, pack your little schoolyard bully act and leave the 21th century for Jurassic Park.

[CANADIEN]

You haven't got a clue what your talking about.

Talking to yourself again, I see.