Leafless Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 Lawyers for a Toronto-based environmental organization issued a cease-and-desist order Monday to the Liberal Party of Canada, demanding that it stop using the name Green Shift for its carbon tax policy platform released last week. http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/story.ht...82-d1bcca5dd1b2 I wonder who within the ranks of the Liberal party initially received a pat on the back for coming up with such an original slogan, but now is in deep shi*. We are not laughing at you Mr. Dion, we are laughing with you. Quote
eyeball Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 Shift happens. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
scribblet Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 True, but it's pretty hypocritical of them to go after a blogger for copyright infringement - double standards anyone. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Leafless Posted June 25, 2008 Author Report Posted June 25, 2008 True, but it's pretty hypocritical of them to go after a blogger for copyright infringement - double standards anyone. Not to mention that the Liberals 'Green Shift' hats are made in China. Now that is talking green. Quote
jdobbin Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 We are not laughing at you Mr. Dion, we are laughing with you. Were you laughing at Harper too when he used ecoTrust when it was owned by a company in Canada? Quote
Leafless Posted June 26, 2008 Author Report Posted June 26, 2008 Were you laughing at Harper too when he used ecoTrust when it was owned by a company in Canada? Do you think I am kidding when I say the feds are engaged in dysfunctional politics? Regardless, it is Mr. Dions turn as MC of comedy hour. Quote
sharkman Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Wow, that is beyond funny. How much longer will liberals put up with this joker? Quote
madmax Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Wow, that is beyond funny. How much longer will liberals put up with this joker? Both parties used the same tactics to promote their environmental platform. The CPC are viewed as deceiving. The LPC are viewed as incompetent. Choose one. I think people accept deception in politics. I do not think they accept incompetence. Quote
scribblet Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Wow, that is beyond funny. How much longer will liberals put up with this joker? Which one I think they should tax the hot air coming from Dion too - and didn't Mulroney say the GST would be revenue neutral? Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Vancouver King Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 (edited) Here's another not so funny development in the eco wars that has political implications for those on the wrong side of the global warming issue. Will lining them up against the wall eventually be an option? "In testimony before the US Congress on Monday, James Hansen, a leading climatologist, called heads of major energy companies criminals who should be prosecuted for spreading false and misleading information about the threat posed by global arming. Hansen, Director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, testified before the House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming to mark the 20th anniversary of his initial appearence before Congress in 1988. "CEOs of fossil energy companies know what they are doing and are aware of the long-term consequences of continued business as usual. In my opinion, these CEOs should be tried for high crimes against humanity and nature." (this link doesn't seem to work: Edited June 26, 2008 by Vancouver King Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
Remiel Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Both parties used the same tactics to promote their environmental platform.The CPC are viewed as deceiving. The LPC are viewed as incompetent. Choose one. I think people accept deception in politics. I do not think they accept incompetence. I do not know about that. If we were to compare strictly on the quality of their advertisements (which I saw back to back on CPAC the other day), I would have to say that whoever the Conservatives got to design and produce theirs was the one that was incompetent. The Liberals was a little melodramatic, but it was a step in the right direction in terms of production values and tone. Quote
sharkman Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Both parties used the same tactics to promote their environmental platform.The CPC are viewed as deceiving. The LPC are viewed as incompetent. Choose one. I think people accept deception in politics. I do not think they accept incompetence. I must have missed that, which slogan did the Tories use that was copyright infringement? Quote
eyeball Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Here's another not so funny development in the eco wars that has political implications for those on the wrong side of the global warming issue. Will lining them up against the wall eventually be an option?"In testimony before the US Congress on Monday, James Hansen, a leading climatologist, called heads of major energy companies criminals who should be prosecuted for spreading false and misleading information about the threat posed by global arming. Hansen, Director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, testified before the House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming to mark the 20th anniversary of his initial appearence before Congress in 1988. "CEOs of fossil energy companies know what they are doing and are aware of the long-term consequences of continued business as usual. In my opinion, these CEOs should be tried for high crimes against humanity and nature." (this link doesn't seem to work: Its not at all hard to imagine people will be gettng lined up against walls and shot in the not so distant future. The Bottleneck is coming and the age of abundance and easy times are coming to an end. The waterhole will shrink and the animals will get mean. Hard economic times will lead to hard poitical times and these could easily lead to hard social times as well. madmax wrote The CPC are viewed as deceiving.The LPC are viewed as incompetent. Choose one. I think people accept deception in politics. I do not think they accept incompetence. I think people accept scapegoats. Some people think the future might get quite ugly so how our politicians and us "handle the truth" in the next few years could set or break the course of social order and even civilization for centuries to come. Who are they going to come for first...the deceitful or the incompetent...and what are you going to do when they come for you? Perhaps we should kill all the lawyers first. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Alta4ever Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 (edited) Here's another not so funny development in the eco wars that has political implications for those on the wrong side of the global warming issue. Will lining them up against the wall eventually be an option?"In testimony before the US Congress on Monday, James Hansen, a leading climatologist, called heads of major energy companies criminals who should be prosecuted for spreading false and misleading information about the threat posed by global arming. Hansen, Director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, testified before the House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming to mark the 20th anniversary of his initial appearence before Congress in 1988. "CEOs of fossil energy companies know what they are doing and are aware of the long-term consequences of continued business as usual. In my opinion, these CEOs should be tried for high crimes against humanity and nature." (this link doesn't seem to work: Tried for something that hasn't been proven, if it turns out all of you are wrong, maybe you should be charged for the ensuing economic disaster, the goricals are bringing on. Edited June 26, 2008 by Alta4ever Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
eyeball Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Tried for something that hasn't been proven, if it turns out all of you are wrong, maybe you should be charged for the ensuing economic disaster, the goricals are bringing on. Harper is proposing an economic solution to a problem he's on record as saying doesn't exist. Doesn't this rot your socks even worse? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
jdobbin Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Harper is proposing an economic solution to a problem he's on record as saying doesn't exist. Doesn't this rot your socks even worse? I'm sure it doesn't. I think deep down the right wing believes that the Conservatives will not enact the legislation. Most of them don't believe that climate change is happening and if it is, nothing to do be done about it. Just like smoking, they believe the science is in question. Quote
eyeball Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 (edited) I'm sure it doesn't.I think deep down the right wing believes that the Conservatives will not enact the legislation. Most of them don't believe that climate change is happening and if it is, nothing to do be done about it. Just like smoking, they believe the science is in question. Harper reminds me of Donald Crowhurst. He's getting himself in deeper and deeper all the time. Crowhurst had entered the race in hopes of winning.... Instead, he encountered difficulty early in the voyage, and secretly abandoned the race while reporting false positions... Edited June 26, 2008 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
madmax Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 I must have missed that, which slogan did the Tories use that was copyright infringement? http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...PStory/National It is not the first time that a political party has run into such a problem in a bid to rebrand its environmental policies.Environment Minister John Baird issued an apology in April of 2007 after Prime Minister Stephen Harper launched a $1.5-billion program called Canada ecoTrust even though a B.C. firm was already operating under the name EcoTrust Canada. The government pledged not to use the name any more. Quote
eyeball Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 The government pledged not to use the name any more Just as well, the public would only have rolled its eyes up even farther at the thought of government and trust together at the same time. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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