Native Canadians in Canada

[g_bambino]

"White" isn't a skin color

It is a mentality that was used by the pink people against the indians of the land.

Of course white is a skin colour; as part of the colour spectrum white light will reflect back to the photoreceptor cells in your eyes from the surface of someone's skin; everyone's skin. Regardless, I thought the notion of the "white man" was something indians used to identify "the other"; did they not call Victoria the Great White Mother? I didn't think colonials came and introduced themselves as "the white people."

Anguz the whatever, you answer your own question. Quit being such an A Ding Dang Doo!

C'mon, Angus. He can't get any more clear than that!

[noahbody]

did they not call Victoria the Great White Mother?

I think they called her the Great Ding Dang Doo, but I'm not certain.

[AngusThermopyle]

Quit being such an A Ding Dang Doo!

Oh!

Hi ChauChee, how have things been going? Has your evil empire blossomed yet?

I think they called her the Great Ding Dang Doo, but I'm not certain.

I'm pretty sure it was "the Great white Ding Dang Doo" actually.

Edited June 10, 2008 by AngusThermopyle

[g_bambino]

I think they called her the Great Ding Dang Doo, but I'm not certain.

Ah, yes; one of her lesser known titles: Her Imperial Majesty Victoria, By the Grace of God, Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, Empress of India, Great Ding Dang Doo.

[DogOnPorch]

Ah, yes; one of her lesser known titles: Her Imperial Majesty Victoria, By the Grace of God, Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, Empress of India, Great Ding Dang Doo.

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[NativeCharm]

Being Native is not only a term for origin definition, but for many it is a way of cultural and/or spiritual life, which many average Canadian citizens seldom or attempt to understand or appreciate. Yes, we co exist in a society where the majority screams for equality, and the minorities struggle for individuality and cultural survival- but sooner or later ancient wisdoms and modern day knowledge will collide. Some of us are Canadians, Native Canadians, WHATEVER...but we are ALL citizens of Mother Earth and she can evict us anytime she wants. Us two legged humans should start focusing where the real issues of our futures are!

I think if people took more time into doing factual research on Canadian and Native/Aboriginal/First Nations/American Indian/Aboriginal/Indigenous AUTHENTIC HISTORY, then we could participate in some very interesting and focused discussions.

Those are just my thoughts from a REAL NATIVE Canadian tax paying citizens point of view... on this long, long thread that lacks true focus. Wish I could visit more often, as I sometimes find the forums here quite entertaining.

( Mental Note: copy and paste this reply to all threads Native related)

National Aboriginal Day coming up.............HUG A NATIVE! lol

[crybabykm]

Actually

Most "Canadians" won't hug a native, they will find ways to complain about tax, scowl at them, and all gather together in their skid bunches.

Canada is still quite primative as we await the skids n snobs of Canada to evolve.

How much more land, resource, jobs, and toys will it take for them to be happy enough to say, "Thanks for the land! Here, have a beer!"

(Especially those stingy ass blondes of Canada! The blondes away from North America are a world away from these ones!)

[White Doors]

I thought it was a ding dang doo?

Hi Chauchee!

[AngusThermopyle]

I think if people took more time into doing factual research on Canadian and Native/Aboriginal/First Nations/American Indian/Aboriginal/Indigenous AUTHENTIC HISTORY, then we could participate in some very interesting and focused discussions.

Oh, you mean authentic history like the claim made on these forums that Natives actually invented the wheel but saw no use for it, or that they all lived in perfect harmony with no war or strife? That kind of authentic history?

[crybabykm]

No, not the adingdangdoo "white" mentality way of mocking the world train of thought there angus the rotting beef

The belief that kept this land looking the day after creation when the world showed up. The hell with a wheel, we are talking a trio of nations that was all of a sudden replaced by a wonder bread wheel of systematic capitalism. You know, the PINK people on top of the world pretending they are white while the black and yellow nation try to mimic them; all the time all THREE nations reside in the RED nation territory.

The belief where our God is SO COOL, He lets all of you here with YOUR Gods and YOUR beliefs and build YOUR buildings and rape my people in them and continue to let your Jesus and your Harper RAPE the shit out of our Mother Nature....that belief!

That belief where you would sooner dismiss it and go play who is the skid of the land compared to living for peace...and paying the price for peace. You would sooner make $5000 in your rape of my Mother Nature and tithe your $500 to whatever belief system you use to resort to a flippin wheel!

THAT kind of belief angus the rotting beef, continue, and so will I. For I am just getting warmed up!

Wear a WHITE shirt tomorrow, and ask any stranger....as a matter of fact, ask TEN strangers, "Am I white or pink?"

See what they tell you!

YOU Are in a belief system that keeps you in color denial. YOU CLAIM you are WHITE when you are pink. WE claim that you made a deal with us and didn't keep it. Yet the world believes you because they are just a coward as you are.

And my dead indians are yet to show you what kind of a world you live in. Jesus can't help you now. For your ass is ours!!!!!

[crybabykm]

1384 hits on this thread alone,

yet NONE of you can honestly say if you believe in or out with the original people of this land

who gives a shit if we ask for some of your tithe or some of our land back or some night with your blondes

we have been here asking for shit long before you got here with your shit

the only shit that isn't at all shit are your women, which is why you are able to continue

that has always been the only reason.

What, you think you are such a man without them? Try it! Without them to hide behind!

[AngusThermopyle]

Oh great, another loonie who's hung up on skin colour. You guys have to get past your racism and look beyond the colour of another persons skin to see the person who is actually there.

[g_bambino]

Oh great, another loonie who's hung up on skin colour. You guys have to get past your racism and look beyond the colour of another persons skin to see the person who is actually there.

This is the problem when one's own culture and skin colour become inextricably entwined.

[Rue]

Actually

Most "Canadians" won't hug a native, they will find ways to complain about tax, scowl at them, and all gather together in their skid bunches.

I speak for myself. If a woman is gorgeous, and she allows it, I will hug her. I am a middle aged Jewish man. We do that. We are harmless though. I don't hug any men. My generation expresses affection to other men in one of 3 ways; i-punching shoulders, ii-grunting/burping/passing gas, iii-calling each other abusive names.

[Dig]

Here's an idea. In order to have a little piece, lets make everybody that has lived here there entire life a citizen of Canada. We all pay our fair share and we all get a shot at the same standard of living, the same education, etc etc. We would all then have a reason to get up in the morining.

PS - yes I know there are first nations people that do that now, I call a number of them friend.

[noahbody]

lets make everybody that has lived here there entire life a citizen of Canada.

As someone pointed out, First Nations are a multicultural society. Some never have wanted to be part of Canada and likely never will. They didn't want to be British subject either. The Six Nations actually rejected the offer of a deed for the Haldimand tract because conditions were attached that they would have to become subjects. Therefore the King never granted them a deed.

Edited June 16, 2008 by noahbody

[Dig]

As someone pointed out, First Nations are a multicultural society. Some never have wanted to be part of Canada and likely never will. They didn't want to be British subject either. The Six Nations actually regected the offer of a deed for the Haldimand tract because conditions were attached that they would have to become subjects. Therefore the King never granted them a deed.

Ya, problem is, that doesn't seem to be working out. Or is it just me?

If there was no favoritism, neither side could complane. I mean, really, would it be soooo bad to be a Canadian. Look at what the entire country would have to gain on both sides. I dunno, maybe Canadians are happy having a group they can always complain about and First Nations are happy having a group they can always blame.

[crybabykm]

"Ya, problem is, that doesn't seem to be working out. Or is it just me?"

Actually, every generation of Canadians have always excluded indians in all areas of their life. From their financial infrastructures, to their social lives, right down to basic daily rights as a human being.

Go to ANY establishment, ANY church, ANY pub and bring up the subject of indians. If there are indians there? Canadians will be very careful of what they say. If there are NO indians and just Canadians? You will hear some of the craziest shite about us which is at all not true. If there are TOURISTS from anywhere in the world present? The exadurations will be so far fetched? That most tourists would listen to it. For the Canadians, their media, and their history books through their educational system will all attest to the very same lies. Which is fine.

If there was no favoritism, neither side could complane.

There was favoritism. The Canadians had us reserved so they could SECURE themselves with land, jobs, and good credit with the bank. Only in the 70s were indians finally allowed off the reservation to compete. But to this day, Canadians will cringe at the thought of indians matching job for job, land for land, and debit for credit! So no matter how you slice it? We indians are entitled to at least one final payout each. Perhaps then we could meet you face to face...for we have never seen a collective face. The residential school settlements is the closest you adingdangdoos came to looking at us. Even there you all mock us accordingly, just as your dead old people have to our Ancestors before.

I mean, really, would it be soooo bad to be a Canadian.

THAT is what we have been trying to do since you first immigrants showed up, SHARE with you. But to this day, even your most gorgeous blondes will cringe at the sight of us and think, "Ewww!! Indian!" Go to ANY reservation, you will not see ANY blonde bouncing around in tight spandex jogging around....perhaps it is SOOOOO bad being INDIAN....NOT Canadian....eh!?

Look at what the entire country would have to gain on both sides.

Look what CROWNLAND has gained on the one side. Go to ANY reservation and see Chief n Council fat off the land as the REAL indians hunger for ONE chance....this is where a one time buy out would prove itself. For the Chief n Council would no longer be able to collect money from the government and claim they take care of the real indian when they just rob Canadian tax and rob the indians with that same money. That is getting paid three times over!!!! Believe me, INDIAN incompetence is everywhere. And I can't stand that more than I could stand any other incompetence! For that is a double denial! Canadian denial is understandable. PINK people calling themselves WHITE. If I was pink? I would call myself WHITE for WHITE sounds more honorable than PINK does!

I dunno, maybe Canadians are happy having a group they can always complain about and First Nations are happy having a group they can always blame.

BLAME is a poor and weak word to use. A cope out word that Canadians use when they don't know what the hell is really going on. Most Canadians are pawns used by their government and plod along one square at a time as they believe their media, their church pastors, and each other.

If it wasn't so hard getting over the border, I would have left this country long ago! But Niagra Falls is where I can work safely and get paid cash each day.

But when I can, I will leave this land for good....for this was my land....now it is all yours....but you ALONE didn't defeat us...it was the WORLD who came and needed, so they took....like you did.

We are already history, we are just too strong to just accept that! For we are still alive itch!!!!

[M.Dancer]

we have been here asking for shit long before you got here with your shit

At last, a solution to the great sewage treatment dilemma....

[g_bambino]

At last, a solution to the great sewage treatment dilemma....

At least by the Jay Treaty they can transport our shit over the border to give it to the Indians in the US, who, I'm sure, have also been wanting shit.

Edited June 19, 2008 by g_bambino

[eyeball]

I notice quite a few of you have a strong opinion of the Native Canadians in Canada.

How many of you actually lived amongst them on reservations?

As an outsider here in the US, I am curious as to how you know them so well based on what the media teaches you.

I've lived two doors down from one for 35 years. I've been a volunteer fireman on their department (they offered to extend their service off reserve). I've had many native friends, associates, employers and employees over the years. Local old time whites cautioned me against moving next door and to especially be careful about letting my kids ride on the same school bus as the native kids. Three of them did just that for the whole time they went to school without a single incident.

I recall an old native friend once telling me things changed when 'you guys' showed up. I asked him what he meant and he said when you hippies showed up you invited us into your homes and visited us in ours. Apparently white people around here hardly ever did that before. I know white old-timers that predate my arrival by 50 years who to this day have still never stepped foot on a reserve. Wierd huh?

[guyser]

Hi qwerty !

Back from the land of the banned I see . Or ...what was his other name?? A dingdangdoo to you too . Hows the job(s) coming along. Still hustling the white women in Timmy's ?

you adingdangdoos came to looking at us.

blondes will cringe at the sight of us and think, "Ewww!! Indian!" Go to ANY reservation, you will not see ANY blonde bouncing around in tight spandex jogging around....perhaps it is SOOOOO bad being INDIAN....NOT Canadian....eh!?

PINK people calling themselves WHITE. If I was pink? I would call myself WHITE for WHITE sounds more honorable than PINK does!

If it wasn't so hard getting over the border, I would have left this country long ago! But Niagra Falls is where I can work safely and get paid cash each day.

For we are still alive itch!!!!

Gold Bond Medicated Cream might help.

I suppose you are stopping in here for a cup of coffee before the time limit on tables is used up?

In case Im not around later, see you !

[M.Dancer]

Hi qwerty !

More likely Joanie's alter ego Chauchee...

[guyser]

More likely Joanie's alter ego Chauchee...

Ahh...thats the name I could recall. Chauchee. I take it you see the same?

Nobody comes up with dingdangdoo on their own. I guess not too bright if wanting to fly under the radar.

Edited June 19, 2008 by guyser

[crybabykm]

Losing everything to the world....I thought I would share a passage from my latest book

Dean Koontz - Odd Hours:

---"Love somebody from when you're nineteen, one day he's the same as ever, next day dead. So many tears, they seem to wash somethin' out of you, they leave this emptiness."

'Loss is the hardest thing,' I said. 'But it's also the teacher that's the most difficult to ignore.'

Her fanning hand went still. She regarded me with an expression that I took to be surprised agreement.

Because Birdie seemed to expect me to elucidate, I fumbled out what I thought she might want to say herself: 'Grief can destroy you - or focus you. You can decided a relationship was all for nothing if it had to end in death, and you alone. Or you can realize that every moment of it had more meaning than you dared to recognize at the time, so much more meaning than you dared to recognize at the time, so much meaning it scared you, so you just lived, just took for granted the love and laughter of each day, and didn't allow yourself to consider the sacredness of it. But when it's over and you're alone, you begin to see it wasn't just a movie and a dinner together, not just watching sunsets together, not just scrubbing a floor or washing dishes together or worrying over a high electric bill. It was everything, it was the why of life, every event and precious moment of it. The answer to the mystery of existence is the love you shared sometimes so imperfectly, and when the loss wakes you to the deeper beauty of it, to the sanctit of it, you can't get off your knees for a long time, you're driven to your knees not by the weight of the loss but by the gratitude for what preceded the loss. And the ache is always there, but one day not the emptiness, because to nurture the emptiness, to take solace in it, is to disrespect the gift of life.'

After a moment, she fanned her face again, and closed her eyes. ---