McCain: Secrets

[DogOnPorch]

I've seen all the various candidates appear on the major late-night talk shows...Letterman...O'Brian...Leno. All have tried to be funny...but the one that really stands out for me humor-wise is McCain. He's been doing these sorts of appearances on these talk shows even before he was running for president. His most notable being 'McCain: Secrets' on Conan O'Brian. On one of his earlier appearances, he even had not only a ciggie and bottle of Jack Daniels, but a .45 Colt with two 'prostitutes' (read: actresses) standing behind him giving a back rub. Pretty brave...and funny. Do you think these sorts of appearances help or hurt a candidate?

The only "McCain: Secrets" left on YouTube.

John McCain on Letterman doing a short comedy bit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_I3Gr-O2Ak (Letterman had been doing these sorts of McCain jokes for weeks prior ie: McCain is old)

Obama on Letterman doing the 'Top Ten': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVy6z7gwydU

Hillary has done the Top Ten a few times: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyzeqihfmhY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_c6921tBK4

Leno gets them less involved...more just interviews. Only McCain appears on O'Brian it seems...on too late for America? He also seems the most at ease making jokes about himself.

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You look like the kind of guy who the neighbors say: "He mostly kept to himself."

---John McCain to David Letterman

[bush_cheney2004]

I think it is smart for McCain to engage this way, particulary for the younger voting demographic that watches such programs. As a "spirited" midshipman and former naval aviator, trust me when I say that Senator McCain knows how to party. He is no stranger to infamous "Tailhook" conventions, and is himself a "Hooker".

http://www.tailhook.org/TH50.htm

We all watched how condescending stuffed shirt Al Gore was pummeled by SNL skits, while George Bush rolled with the punches, and still does with self deprecating humor.

[DogOnPorch]

I think it is smart for McCain to engage this way, particulary for the younger voting demographic that watches such programs. As a "spirited" midshipman and former naval aviator, trust me when I say that Senator McCain knows how to party. He is no stranger to infamous "Tailhook" conventions, and is himself a "Hooker".

http://www.tailhook.org/TH50.htm

We all watched how condescending stuffed shirt Al Gore was pummeled by SNL skits, while George Bush rolled with the punches, and still does with self deprecating humor.

Ah...I see! Look at all those azz grabbing old salts...lol. New cocktail waitresses probably need to be warned...lol. Explains a lot re: McCain.

I agree...GWB puts up with a lot of jabs and he just smiles and jokes back. Letterman has been doing 'Great Moments in Presidential Speeches' for many years, now. George apparently loves them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnjMSlTGQ_c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsXwvuWK_T4 (notice Biff behind JFK)

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At Crawford...we kinda cut it...nobody's accusing me of being Shakespeare.

---GWB

Edited May 10, 2008 by DogOnPorch

[bush_cheney2004]

Ha! ...."nobody ever accused me of being Shakespeare".....

Now that I think about it, I hope some equally old crusty cocktail waitress doesn't pop up to accuse Hooker MaCain of infamous Las Vegas-like shenannigans. Good thing he has an equal number of POW clips and photos from the Hanoi Hilton.

[DogOnPorch]

Ha! ...."nobody ever accused me of being Shakespeare".....

Now that I think about it, I hope some equally old crusty cocktail waitress doesn't pop up to accuse Hooker MaCain of infamous Las Vegas-like shenannigans. Good thing he has an equal number of POW clips and photos from the Hanoi Hilton.

Hopefully, what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.

You're right though, I think McCain showing this side of himself more than the others would be appealing to a large number of younger voters. Cool Old Guy McCain for Prez...parties down at Spring Break 2008, etc. Hillary perhaps too much like Mom. Obama a bit too much like partying with the Rev Jesse Jackson.

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I'm rather conservative when it comes to peeing.

---'Jeff', University of Utah: asked which way he leans politically in '08.

[Oleg Bach]

Hopefully, what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.

You're right though, I think McCain showing this side of himself more than the others would be appealing to a large number of younger voters. Cool Old Guy McCain for Prez...parties down at Spring Break 2008, etc. Hillary perhaps too much like Mom. Obama a bit too much like partying with the Rev Jesse Jackson.

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I'm rather conservative when it comes to peeing.

---'Jeff', University of Utah: asked which way he leans politically in '08.

Never been to Vagas..so what happened to me in Vagas will definitely stay secret.. To bad Obama is not a real black man..how come they could not come up with a pure bred to run the race...? Really - Jesse Jackson can not be compared to Obama...Jesse actually considered joining the Black Panthers of the by gone era - where as Obama believes they are a basket ball team. So much for the foolishness - McCain is a withered old man - his forehead has the same markings at the Mr.Burns character on the Simpsons! Time is the great defeater..there was a time when General Collin Powell would have made the greatest black President - but they wore him down and wore him out - as he sold out and aged and then it was to late - McCaine is a point removed from a walking corpse...why even consider having him for president and in the same year a real big state funeral....have a good look a McCaine - he looks withered and about to dither..why would sane people even consider him...oooops - they voted for Bush..didn't they..statement retracted.

[DogOnPorch]

Really - Jesse Jackson can not be compared to Obama...Jesse actually considered joining the Black Panthers of the by gone era - where as Obama believes they are a basket ball team. So much for the foolishness - McCain is a withered old man - his forehead has the same markings at the Mr.Burns character on the Simpsons!

Well...look at it this way then. Who are you most likely to end up waking up in a ditch with off Route 17 in Jersey after an all night tequila-fest at the

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a ) Clinton (not Bill)

b ) Obama

c ) McCain

Vegas = Las Vegas, Nevada "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" is one of the city's tourist slogans.

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I once shook hands with Pat Boone and my whole right side sobered up.

---Dean Martin

Edited May 10, 2008 by DogOnPorch

[Oleg Bach]

Well...look at it this way then. Who are you most likely to end up waking up in a ditch with off Route 17 in Jersey after an all night tequila-fest at the

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a ) Clinton (not Bill)

b ) Obama

c ) McCain

Vegas = Las Vegas, Nevada "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" is one of the city's tourist slogans.

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I once shook hands with Pat Boone and my whole right side sobered up.

---Dean Martin

That little quote at the bottom is real funny..I actually gave out a hardy laugh and am old enough to know who Pat Boone is...."my whole right side sobered up" - that is absolutely brilliant..thanks...Yeh I know the Vegas slogan. Now let me get this straight...I am out drinking like it's water and I wake up in a ditch and laying beside me his Hillary? - McCain - or Obama? Is that the premise? By the way I am very impressed that you can spell tequila. Let me think about this one..open my soggy eyes and there is a passed out Obama slobering as he snores - or a passed out McCain - hardly breathing other than a twitch that lets me know the old buggers still alive...or...Hillary....well I would say Hillary..I actually like the old woman...I can't stand her mind and mouth though - but getting drunk with her and maybe making out in a ditch might not be so bad as long as she promised not to be president and go on the wagon.

[DogOnPorch]

That little quote at the bottom is real funny..I actually gave out a hardy laugh and am old enough to know who Pat Boone is...."my whole right side sobered up".

Aye...ol' Dino could crack a joke. Knew how to have a good time, as well. He wasn't always the drunk he pretended to be. A typical story...

Across an open parking lot from Luna's (112 Mulberry St, NYC) was Marconi’s Restaurant, also a popular tourist and celebrity magnet. One night, while Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr. were dining at Marconi’s, they were told that Dean Martin was across the parking lot at Luna’s. However each side found out the other was across the lot, when their meals were over they all came out with cannolis, which became ammunition for a duel between these international stars. That was what Little Italy was in the good old days.

http://www.urban75.org/photos/newyork/images/ny719.jpg

Fair enough re: Clinton. But in reality I imagine she's not quite the booze-hound that McCain could be...given the right tail-hook.

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I've got seven kids. The three words you hear most around my house are 'hello,' 'goodbye,' and 'I'm pregnant'.

---Dean Martin

[HisSelf]

I've seen all the various candidates appear on the major late-night talk shows...Letterman...O'Brian...Leno. All have tried to be funny...but the one that really stands out for me humor-wise is McCain. He's been doing these sorts of appearances on these talk shows even before he was running for president. His most notable being 'McCain: Secrets' on Conan O'Brian. On one of his earlier appearances, he even had not only a ciggie and bottle of Jack Daniels, but a .45 Colt with two 'prostitutes' (read: actresses) standing behind him giving a back rub. Pretty brave...and funny. Do you think these sorts of appearances help or hurt a candidate?

What? Prostitutes? The biggest whores on the stage would have been Letterman, Leno, O'Brien and Kimmel. These guys are just billboards. Watch the Hollywood movie releases. We get a new movie on the cusp of a release and .. jeez, how did that happen.... one of the movie's stars show up on a late night talk show.

These guys are just another version of People Magazine. Slick, but managed by the kind of spin doctors who produced the invasion of Iraq. There have been very, very few nights when I watched these guys because they were the best thing on offer. Better a travelogue on Tuscany. I've already been there, and I doubt I'll go again, but at least the pictures are pretty, and they are real. I mean really. If you go to New York, is your first, second or third stop gonna be the 'Hello Deli'? If it was, what would that say about you? Welcome to the trailer park?

[DogOnPorch]

What? Prostitutes? The biggest whores on the stage would have been Letterman, Leno, O'Brien and Kimmel. These guys are just billboards. Watch the Hollywood movie releases. We get a new movie on the cusp of a release and .. jeez, how did that happen.... one of the movie's stars show up on a late night talk show.

These guys are just another version of People Magazine. Slick, but managed by the kind of spin doctors who produced the invasion of Iraq. There have been very, very few nights when I watched these guys because they were the best thing on offer. Better a travelogue on Tuscany. I've already been there, and I doubt I'll go again, but at least the pictures are pretty, and they are real. I mean really. If you go to New York, is your first, second or third stop gonna be the 'Hello Deli'? If it was, what would that say about you? Welcome to the trailer park?

I bet you're a lot of fun at parties, too. So...damaging...or not damaging?

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Remember the words of Chairman Mao: 'It's always darkest before it's totally black.'.

---John McCain

[HisSelf]

I bet you're a lot of fun at parties, too. So...damaging...or not damaging?

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Remember the words of Chairman Mao: 'It's always darkest before it's totally black.'.

---John McCain

Anybody who goes to a party thinking they will be fun generally turns out to be the guy everyone ignores.

Damaging. Not damaging. Are you talking about me or talk shows?

If you are talking about talk shows, I think they are just part of the great cosmic white noise. You have yer talk shows. You have yer preachers. You have yer drinkin' buddies. You have yer buddies at work, you have yer wife, you have yer relatives, you have yer in-laws, you have yer barber...

I could be wrong, but anybody who is influenced by a talk show - I mean look at the spectrum - Jerry Springer? - is probably so confused that they probably don't even bother to vote.

I'd love to see an exit poll - who did you vote for and do you watch Jerry Springer? LOL.

[sharkman]

Uh, you better not analyze the example of Bill Clinton appearing on Arsenio playing a sax which helped his image greatly.

People get influenced by such things, it's human nature. The prudent look deeper, but many do not. A politician simply does what gets the best results.

[DogOnPorch]

Anybody who goes to a party thinking they will be fun generally turns out to be the guy everyone ignores.

Damaging. Not damaging. Are you talking about me or talk shows?

If you are talking about talk shows, I think they are just part of the great cosmic white noise. You have yer talk shows. You have yer preachers. You have yer drinkin' buddies. You have yer buddies at work, you have yer wife, you have yer relatives, you have yer in-laws, you have yer barber...

I could be wrong, but anybody who is influenced by a talk show - I mean look at the spectrum - Jerry Springer? - is probably so confused that they probably don't even bother to vote.

I'd love to see an exit poll - who did you vote for and do you watch Jerry Springer? LOL.

Damaging re: talkshows. Excellent. Thanks for your opinion.

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Pretensions to moral superiority are devastatingly destructive.

---Mary Douglas

[HisSelf]

Damaging re: talkshows. Excellent. Thanks for your opinion.

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Pretensions to moral superiority are devastatingly destructive.

---Mary Douglas

You're welcome. Happy you agree.

[HisSelf]

Uh, you better not analyze the example of Bill Clinton appearing on Arsenio playing a sax which helped his image greatly.

People get influenced by such things, it's human nature. The prudent look deeper, but many do not. A politician simply does what gets the best results.

So do you think somebody could get away with that again? You never step in the same river twice.

[sharkman]

Actually, Obama has been doing it. He appeared on Ellen. Do you know anything about that talk show? She loves to dance and encourages her audience to dance along with her I think at the start of the show. When Obama appeared, they shook their booties together. It looked rather silly, but the audience ate it up.

I think it's become a regular part of campaigning, Hilary appeared on SNL within the last few weeks.

[DogOnPorch]

You're welcome. Happy you agree.

In an world with infinate numbers of monkeys typing on infinate numbers of typewriters, we'd agree. But it would be just by chance.

sharkman: People get influenced by such things, it's human nature.

John McCain announced his bid to run on Letterman. Fairly influential for a mere talk show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53caXQKTs9Y

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I cannot sing, dance or act; what else would I be but a talk show host.

---David Letterman