Bitsy

Hardly a rebuttal , just an observation since class was never mentioned until criticize other politicians' character is no more classy than those who are criticizing those who mourn Layton.

And we know that you are all about class

Unlike you, I do not consider all people character's equal.

Thank you for sharing your heartfelt emotions. I share them even though I am an American. I did follow your election with great interest and was impressed by the genuineness of Jack’s character something I find lacking in most people especially politicians.

See how they run…… http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/after-triggering-downgrade-debt-default-skeptics-try-to-run-from-their-records----but-they-cant.php??ref=fpblg

Amen

Here is a moderate Republican journalist who thinks it is time for them to go............. snip http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-tea-fragger-party/2011/07/29/gIQA23pAiI_story.html?hpid=z6

That's a question many of us have asked, along with others questions. Democrats time management was dismal and they are paying for it now, or I should say, we are paying for it now. But even without a budget, I don't recall any military pay or any other pay for that matter being deferred..did I miss something?

Forgot to ask you if this is when the Republicans showed their a$$ and shut down the federal government?

With August bills almost twice August revenue, I think it will be difficult to defer all the paychecks coming due. Edited to add: But have fun with it. http://about.bgov.com/2011/07/12/august-invoices-show-u-s-treasury%E2%80%99s-limited-choices/

However, you cloak it, it is still a payment due the citizens of the US to be paid monthly out of the US Treasury.

From what I can determine his source is from the teabaggers, and they can not even distinguish between interest on the debt and SS, Medicare, Medicaid payements. His $29B figure is interest payments on Treasure securities only. The SS monthy debt payment is almost double that number and that does not include Medicare and Medicaid. I just want to see where the teabaggers are getting their information.

Do you have a source for your figures? BTB, still waiting for your source that only people under 50 would see their SS change. It wasn't Ryan!

True, the party who touted fiscal responsibility, Republicans, did a fine job in escalating our debt. http://www.angrybearblog.com/2007/12/republican-party-and-national-debt.html

This debate was a politically motivated assault on Obama, which will escalate into a severe recession and the possibility of a depression as we have never experienced in our life time. A responsible congress would have passed a clean debt raising bill as has been done 73 times since 1964 and put the deficit debate where it belongs…separate budget negotiation and fiscal reform. Lifting the ceiling allows our country to pay for past debts approved and incurred by past legislations; reducing spending is for future legislation that can reduce the deficit and, hopefully, prevent ever again raising the debt limit. By attaching spending legislation to this normally accepted procedure by “the adolescent nihilism of Republican right, and the intellectual sloth of the American people” , we now see our nation teetering on the brink of defaulting on our debt obligations something that would have been unheard of in the past. http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/07/27/lyons_deadbeat

Your original post seemed to imply that it was only our social program to blame for the debt, I am glad that you clarified that.

I am not reading tealeaves for the future but I do read reputable news sources. http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/treasury-making-hard-choices-in-case-of-default/2011/07/29/gIQA1kGFiI_story.html?hpid=z1

I am sorry that I did not make myself clear to you. All debts have been paid but after 8/2/11 there will be a process of prioritizing which debt payments will be honored unless Congress can pass a bill that Obama will sign to raise the debt limit so our obligations can be met. However, I am sure you are aware of that. I guess I was too nuanced.

Yep, this is their debt that they now are refusing to pay :angry:

Try again.......... http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3308

My reply was in response to maple leaf’s post regarding our social programs, note I did not say SS or Medicare, I was speaking of programs for the poor and the less fortunate. There is no denying that the programs I listed are far more responsible for where we find ourselves that those for the poor. These debts that the Republicans are willing to see go into default are debts they voted and authorized albeit that was different time, a time when “deficits don’t matter.” http://www.ontheissues.org/2004/Dick_Cheney_Budget_+_Economy.htm

Are you seriously suggesting that our social programs are the reason we have this deficit? Because if you are, let me remind you of two unfunded wars, two rounds of unfunded tax cuts, and an unfunded prescription give away to the pharmaceutical companies.

Whose plan was that, Shady, there have been serveral proposed. One of the reasons I ask is the age of 50 being cut off point, I have not heard that. Or maybe you have a link.....thanks.