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i thought you were about links. really? 30-60 years? link? link? i am stating facts. there are countless documented evidence which show that the zionists took part in a systematic form of ethnic cleansing to make way for greater israel. this is still happening today by way of forced land annexation, home demolitions and illegal government sponsored settlements. your suspicious use of years, without citing is not going to pass. you also cannot claim that a russian jew who was living in russia and was told to migrate to palestine has more claim to a land that he or his parents or grandparents never set foot in, than an arab and his parents and grandparents who had already been living there for centuries. your biblical claim to land is not going to fly in the face of reality. the sad truth is that according to the perverted israeli laws and to your acceptance, if i converted to judaism, i would have more claim to land annexed (see stolen) by israel in the west bank than a palestinian arab who has been living there for centuries.

under the ottomans, people still owned land and had titles. this is land that the zionist congress wanted to purchase.

what? the ottomans? i do recommend that you read about the history of the region before engaging in a debate about it. these people have land titles. many of the titles are still in possession of the original owners and their descendants.

what does ownership of property have anything to do with owning property? what are you trying to get at here? do we pretend that the land was not owned by the people that it was taken from?

righteous victims, benny morris. did a quick search but couldn't find the scanned book online. but you're welcome to borrow mine any time you'd like.

not sure where to start with your narrative. first of all, how israel came to be should be acknowledged. are you aware that palestine's Jewish population was under 8% of the total population as of 1914? are you aware that in 1914 jewish land ownership in palestine was under 2%? despite the active British assistance to establish a "jewish national home" in palestine (based on the british commitment in the balfour declaration), palestine's jewish population in 1947 was increased to 33% of its total population. are you aware, in order to create a 'jewish identity', israel ethnically cleansed 80% of the palestinian population out of their homes, farms and business? are you aware that jewish land ownership in palestine was under 7% as of 1947? are you aware that the u.s. arm twisted the arms of dozens of small nations to get their support for the partitioning of palestine? for example, greece and france were threatened with a foreign aid cutoff. are you aware it wasn't just the arabs who rejected the partition plan, but also the world zionist congress who rejected the partition plan as well? do you know the reason? the reason was that they wanted all of palestine for themselves. that's why they have never accepted a permanent border. did you know that before the un partition plan in 1947, there was a peel commission plan in 1937 which was rejected by the zionist congress. how many jews would have been saved from the holocaust? why is it okay to reject the peel commission in 1937 but not okay to reject the un partition plan in 1947? are you aware of this quote in 1938, by ben-gurion who made it clear of his support for the "jewish state" on part of palestine was only as a stepping ground for a complete conquest. he wrote: "[i am] satisfied with part of the country, but on the basis of the assumption that after we build up a strong force following the establishment of the state--we will abolish the partition of the country and we will expand to the whole Land of Israel." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 107 & One Palestine Complete, p. 403) this is just the tip of the issue, which we all need to acknowledge before going into the rest of the modern-history of the region. there are hundreds of documented evidence and information which tell you what happened. some of the best books written by the israeli historian, benny morris, a self-proclaimed zionist. simplistic, superficial comments such as, THE ARABS ATTACKED ISRAEL AND ISRAEL NEEDS TO DEFEND ITSELF were not true then and they're certainly not true now.

i'd like to know who here is okay with canada's treatment of the natives. bringing up the past actions of a country i live in, whether the actions are similar or not, to somehow excuse and justify the brutal actions of israel against a people is lame. you have a ridiculous habit. you're a bizarre old man. apartheid south africa was supported by many western countries. but that slowly changed as pressure from people mounted and the reality of the oppressive actions by the south african government became too much to ignore. israel is heading towards the same fate. no one believes palestinian land and water theft is a defensive action. americans, and young american jews specifically are starting to distance themselves from israel and u.s.' support for israel oppressive behaviour. AIPAC may have the u.s. government by the balls right now, but that will soon change. see apartheid south africa. sshhhhhh... don't tell a soul.

i thought you were above terrible sarcastic humour. oh well. i'm talking about the credit and money printing system that the current economic structure is based on. i'm talking about the socialist system created for the corporations. i'm talking about the increasing power of the lobby/special interest groups that trump the need of the majority. the sun will outlive the current corrupt system just like it has during the collapse of numerous empires in the past 3000 years. here is crrrrrazy ron paul and status quo paul krugman discussing the economic system: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5gv3DcyY38

unlike you, i have no problem criticizing any empires. whether it's 'my' empire or 'your' empire. the system is not sustainable and it's going to collapse. one of two things will happen; the u.s. will continue to decline and will no longer be able to give the same type of support, or israel will politically and financially implode. either way, the status quo will not continue for much longer. see apartheid south africa.

ron paul is right; the current system is not sustainable. if this continues, it's only a matter of time that it all collapses. i don't know if ron paul's system would succeed, because we don't have an example of it succeeding. however, we do have the example of the current system not succeeding.

what a load of jingoistic crap. how is supporting israel's aggressive rogue like behaviour an advantage to any country? not only is israel's policies against the palestinians non-democractic but many of them have been concluded to be in violation of international law. policies like the continued increasing of the illegal settlements and annexation of palestinian land (as concluded by resolution 446 and international court of justice), the illegal blockade of gaza, the military adventures in gaza and lebanon which have violated international law and many more. israel's actions against the palestinians are not the actions of a true democratic country.

why can't israel take care of itself? especially with all the military technology and aid they've already received. the more this goes on, the more obvious it is that israel is a nation dependent on america for massive financial, military, and political support. israel cannot stand on it's own two feet and never has.

however, in this case, america is putting another country's needs above theirs. *wooooosh*

it's a good thing. however, it's a bad thing that america's actions, including their military and economic decisions effect the whole world. i understand though, the jewish vote and money is important and we're a few months away from the elections. gay zionists must be totally googooly-eyed for obama right now.

link The Obama administration is expected to announce an additional $680 million in U.S. financial aid aimed at helping Israel purchase additional Iron Dome batteries to intercept rockets. this is on top of the $3 billion a year that israel receives from the u.s. taxpayers, who are borrowing the money from china. all this talk about how israel can take care of itself is a bunch of crap. israel is a welfare state and the american people are using their credit card to pay for them.

since 1998: link

what if they abandon the masks and wear clown makeup instead? then, will they outlaw clown makeup as well?

american woman: this is from the other thread. something that you, not surprisingly, did not respond to. it's become a pattern with you. link there is no 'as others are hoping..' in the equation. it would obviously be easier for the PR department if they could show the latest incident is the work of 1 crazy person as opposed to the work of a group of soldiers. that's the point i tried to make. bad news travels faster than good news. in afghanistan, there is far more bad news which is a result of the occupation. a total of 5 afghan weddings have been bombed by u.s. planes. (the number of wedding bombings is according to the afghanis. some of the bombings were denied by the u.s., which were later found to have taken place) as i mentioned, it's about the disrespect the occupier shows towards those who are being occupied. koran burning, pissing on the dead afghans, keeping afghan body parts as souvenir and of course the thousands of civilians who have been killed by americans and other NATO members is what the afghans see and remember. building a school for girls in kabul is not going to cancel all the negatives. it doesn't make them lovable. i'm sure they're as much disliked (if not more by some) and i'm sure some blame taliban's actions on america's occupation. one thing you need to realize is that there is a big difference between the taliban and the americans. that is, the taliban is not a foreign occupier. your mentality of either them or us is the problem. why do the afghans have to pick between the americans and the taliban? let the afghans figure this out on their own. the occupation has not worked. after 10 years, what is there besides control over kabul? the number of civilian casualties per year continuse to increase since the occupation started. this is called a failure. time for the occupiers to cut their losses and get out as soon as possible. it's also time for the those who defend the occupations to accept that occupation doesn't work. so what do afghans think? here is what some of them think: Popular fury over the killing spree, which brought demands that the United States withdraw earlier than scheduled, could be exploited by the Taliban to gain new recruits. "We have benefited little from the foreign troops here but lost everything - our lives, dignity and our country to them," said Haji Najiq," a Kandahar shop owner. "The explanation or apologies will not bring back the dead. It is better for them to leave us alone and let us live in peace." what about when the u.s. leaves and the taliban regains more control? "The Americans said they will leave in 2014. They should leave now so we can live in peace," said Mohammad Fahim, 19, a university student. "Even if the Taliban return to power our elders can work things out with them. The Americans are disrespectful." the hatred for the occupier runs deep. "The Americans are not here to assist us they are here to kill us," said Najibullah, 33, a house painter in Kabul. "I hate the Americans and I hate anyone who loves them, so I hope there is no long-term partnership between our countries."

Hollande wants to renegotiate a hard-won European treaty on budget cuts that Germany's Angela Merkel and Sarkozy had championed. He wants more government stimulus, and more government spending in general despite concerns from markets that France needs to urgently trim its huge debts. The election outcome could also have an impact on how long French troops stay in Afghanistan and how France exercises its military and diplomatic muscle around the world. link it will be interesting to see how this will play out.

'the most traumatic terrorist attack' to someone who has no clue what has happened around the world.

zing?

what are you talking about? i'm talking about the over 250,000 people applying under the federal skilled worker program whose applications are suddenly being returned after over 5 years of waiting.

20th place is not that bad. don't feel bad. you're beating lithuania and you're right behind slovenia!

the point has been made and you're unable to counter it. it's become a pattern. *hair flick* as it stands right now, we don't have enough proof that the bin laden who we've gotten to know through repeated news clips was killed during the heroic raid in pakistan. the only proof we have is the word of the american government. the same government who, just in the past decade has been caught lying about the evidence of the iraq war, the jessica lynch story and the pat tillman story. you have some nerve trying to belittle someone who questions the american government's story, when you, yourself accepts it without any real evidence and despite the u.s. government's track record in making shit up to win nationalistic brownie points.

#3, you'd have received a better education as according to the world education rankings list.