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and of course, how convenient has it become for american woman to avoid discussion on things she cannot apologize for (or has no clue about)? easy, just don't respond to them and instead make head injury comments and then count on one of the semi-literates to follow it up with a lower standard comment. what american woman doesn't want to talk about: the palestinian government accepts israel and are willing to accept borders based on the 1967 border. in 1993, arafat signed a declarations and all of their negotiations are based on that. what the extremists on the palestinian side say is not the stance of the palestinian government for over 20 years. where is the israeli government's acceptance of a palestinian state? why do they continue to annex more land? why do they continue to drag their feet? likud has even vowed to never allow a palestinian state. so tell me if you're going to be honest about israel. here is something you won't hear about in the mainstream in north america: Defense Ministry hires architect to resume construction of illegal West Bank outpost Givat Sal'it is one of 26 communities the Sharon government had promised the United States it would tear down nearly 10 years ago. link yes, the always expanding settlements that continue to eat away at palestinian land the longer israel stalls and drags its feet. interesting comment on obama: In the early days of Netanyahu's current government, Defense Minister Ehud Barak said in a statement that it was necessary to keep Sharon's commitment to tear down the 26 outposts. But defense officials say the Obama administration has lost interest in these commitments and as far as the U.S. president is concerned, there is no difference between an outpost and a settlement.

i'm going to ask you to pay attention to what you read and how you respond. i said: don't tell me how i think. a little homage to your outbursts whenever i remind you what kind of a person you are and what your intentions are. ah, right. please leave the comedy routines to people who are funny. tell me when you're able to be honest about israel's intentions just like bc2004.

and of course, how convenient has it become for american woman to avoid discussion on things she cannot apologize for? easy, just don't respond to them and instead make head injury comments and then count on one of the semi-literates to follow it up with a lower standard comment. what american woman doesn't want to talk about: the palestinians government accepts israel and are willing to accept borders based on the 1967 border. in 1993, arafat signed a declarations and all of their negotiations are based on that. what the extremists on the palestinian side say is not the stance of the palestinian government for over 20 years. where is the israeli government's acceptance of a palestinian state? why do they continue to annex more land? why do they continue to drag their feet? likud has even vowed to never allow a palestinian state. so tell me if you're going to be honest about israel. here is something you won't hear about in the mainstream in north america: Defense Ministry hires architect to resume construction of illegal West Bank outpost Givat Sal'it is one of 26 communities the Sharon government had promised the United States it would tear down nearly 10 years ago. link yes, the always expanding settlements that continue to eat away at palestinian land the longer israel stalls and drags its feet. interesting comment on obama: In the early days of Netanyahu's current government, Defense Minister Ehud Barak said in a statement that it was necessary to keep Sharon's commitment to tear down the 26 outposts. But defense officials say the Obama administration has lost interest in these commitments and as far as the U.S. president is concerned, there is no difference between an outpost and a settlement.

i'm not sure how to respond to this. is this sarcasm? i don't remember your history of posting.

not that i agree with your comparison, but you should know by now that i don't agree with most of canada's adventures. so why try to use the hypocrite shtick when i'm not being a hypocrite? “Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly, I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked about such a thing.” -Dwight D. Eisenhower

okay. thank you for your honesty. although, my only team is the one who strives for justice and human rights. how about peeves and american woman? are you also willing to be honest like bc2004 is? do you also agree that israel's acts are not defensive and their major goal is what they've wanted from the very beginning when they chose palestine as the homeland for the jews, which is all of the area, including the designated palestinian land?

at one point, slavery was legal and practiced. would anyone be silly enough to accept that it's okay to do now because it was practiced by 'us'? illegal jewish settlements that continue to expand are NOT a defensive measure. it doesn't matter how much you repeat 'defending itself', it's not going to somehow make israel's land theft, water theft and brutal military operations defensive. if you want to continue playing the no bullshit cowboy on this forum, then stop using the b.s. line that israel is defending itself and be honest that israel's ultimate goal is greater israel, which includes the land that belongs to the palestinians.

yes. expanding illegal jewish settlements in the west bank and east jerusalem is all about israel defending itself from real existential threats. kind of like how the nazis had to defend itself from the jews by expanding itself around europe.

and here is a discussion with peter beinart and david suissa

time is running out, zionbots: allow this, self-hating jew, tell you what's happening: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As3RkEq67hs

you must mean the US and their $3billion+/year funding of israel.

there there zionbots. don't feel so threatened by someone who shows the hypocrisy and double standards of the united states government and other western governments. they might be afraid to speak out against israel and the israeli lobby, but more and more people are talking about the big elephant in the room; the immoral, unethical and dangerous zionist government that has been leading israel. this includes many jews who live outside of israel who are becoming louder and louder about israel's actions. just remember, the western governments also looked the other way and apologized when apartheid south africa was severely violating human rights, but the pressure from the people of the world changed that. israel's carte blanche is going to end. it's just a matter of when and when it does, you'll be the ones standing outside like the supporters and apologists of the nazi government, slavery and apartheid south africa.

here, more home demolition of palestinian terrorists:

let us count the number of civilians killed on each side and then assess your propaganda. i'm surprised i haven't seen the line, "push the jews into the sea" in this thread. that's always a favourite of the israeli apologists. when numerous human rights organizations conclude that israel violates human rights time and time again (including human rights watch, amnesty international and israel's own btselem), then it makes it difficult to take you guys seriously. hey check this out, palestinian home demolition by israel on palestinian land, making way for jewish only homes:

a person would have to feel threatened by you, in order for you to be considered a meanie, therefore, a 'big meanie' you are not. you give yourself way too much credit. you're definitely the champion of rants and erratic behaviour. especially since oleg bach stopped gracing us with his presence. peeves' comments about jews and israelis are my reason for thinking he is a zionist jew or possibly a bible thumping christian. maybe he's not jewish. that's fine. there is nothing wrong with being or not being jewish, or christian or muslim. but there is something wrong with someone who is willing to stomp on another group of people's rights in favour of another. these people usually use their religion or ethnic background as a reason to group themselves and to rationalize their racist, unethical and immoral behaviour. pulling out the racism card in order to shut down criticism of israel does not work as well as it used to. sorry little buddy. people are no longer afraid of speaking out against israel's despicable treatment of palestinians.

okay then. either you're nationalistic jew, who tries to support and apologize for israel under any condition, even if it means stomping over someone's human rights, or you're a born again bible thumping christian who believes in myths and fairys and is longing for the end of the world where the jews die. for me, i can tell you right now, i'm not a muslim and i'm not an arab. my connection with this issue is my longing for justice and human rights. something the palestinians are not experiencing, mainly due to the treatment they're receiving from israel and our governments' silence towards israel's actions, which is well displayed in the original post.

of course, including palestinians. "anyone" who violates human rights.

i suggest you stop playing the victim just because you're jewish and instead, join me in calling on our governments to hold all government and groups accountable for their violations of human rights.

my obsession is seeing our governments support human rights and not support those who violate them.

totally right. the same thing has to happen for all the money sent to israel and egypt. particularly israel who receives over $3 billion a year. most of that money is used for weapons.

either support your claims or stfu. you have a habit of saying things and then not being able to back them up.

what if obama wins and with no worries about the funding for another election run, he goes all out and makes real and radical changes to the system? what if he doesn't feel any more pressure from lobby groups and his plan all along was to get to the second term? what does he have to lose? he could go down as the president who saved america before it collapsed under the weight of the unsustainable system and the influence by, dare i say it, the 1% and the zealots. or maybe not.

this wasn't the first time that matthew lee has taken victoria nuland to task.

so you're all for ron paul.

quit whining, especially if you're okay with the u.s. taxpayers paying over $4 billion a year to israel and to egypt (on behalf of israel).