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why would he steer clear because of a movie coming out? it's perfect PR for a movie. last i heard, eastwood was a ron paul and libertarian supporter so it's hard to believe him making a speech considering the convention threw ron paul and his supporters under the bus.

we see a lot of fact checks and comments about how ryan made many false comments, but what about this: Seven Inarguably True Things in Paul Ryan’s Speech We've put the Gawker Fact Checking Team on the case and collected all seven of Ryan's true statements right here: "There she is — my Mom, Betty." Fact-check: True. Paul Ryan's mom was there. "My Dad, a small-town lawyer, was also named Paul." Fact-check: True. Paul Ryan's father was named Paul. "I live on the same block where I grew up." Fact-check: True. Ryan still lives on the same block where he grew up. "President Barack Obama came to office during an economic crisis." Fact-check: True. President Obama came to office during an economic crisis. "My home state voted for President Obama." Fact-check: True. Obama carried Wisconsin in 2008. "My wonderful grandma, Janet, had Alzheimer's and moved in with Mom and me." Fact-check: True. Ryan's grandmother moved in with him and his mother. "[President Obama] created a bipartisan debt commission." Fact-check: True. President Obama created a bipartisan debt commission. "Mom was 50 when my Dad died." Fact-check: True. Ryan's mother was 50 years old when his father died. "Mitt and I also go to different churches." Fact-check: True. Ryan is Catholic, while Romney is a Mormon. link

you are simply pathetic. if you accuse me and try to defame me one more time without any proof to back it up, i have no choice but to report you. i will no longer try to defend myself because of your baseless accusations. bulldozing homes is a violation of international law. this is not my opinion, but the opinion of several israeli and international human rights organizations. bulldozing homes has been used repeatedly as collective punishment. she was defending human rights against a foreign occupier who was demolishing the homes of families. bulldozers are supposed to stop and these demolitions are supposed to be halted in order to protect the lives of civilians. i'm not saying that or comparing it to syria. do you seriously think that people don't look at your comments and not notice how you're trying to deflect attention from israel's decades of human rights violations by bringing up something else? seriously? can you for once try not to respond to criticism of israel with the anti-semite card or by bringing up another, unrelated incident to try to downplay what is happening? seriously. more repetition by another hasbara bot. i know you're not interested in facts, but if anyone else is, this is what jbg is bs'ing about: What exactly did Goldstone 'retract' from his report on Gaza? The findings of the committee headed by New York Judge Mary McGowan Davis, which tracked the implementation of the recommendations in the Goldstone report, were published last month. According to Goldstone, the McGowan Davis report findings indicate that Israel did not have an explicit policy of causing intentional harm to civilians. This is the "retraction" everyone is rejoicing over. However, reading the final UN report reveals that the committee didn't come anywhere near that conclusion. On the contrary. The committee states repeatedly that according to the information presented to it, "Israel does not appear to have conducted a general review of doctrine regarding military targets" (i.e. Israel did not discuss at all on which targets it is legitimate to open fire and on which it is not ). Goldstone's op-ed seems to imply that the committee of experts, as opposed to his commission, was afforded the cooperation of the Israeli authorities. It turns out this is untrue. The American judge was not treated any differently by Israel and she even complains of this in the report. She notes that because of this she had to rely solely on public government reports, which relied on human rights organizations. She also stresses that the committee did not succeed in ascertaining whether Israel has indeed investigated all 36 of the incidents discussed in the Goldstone report. This, she says, exemplifies the vagueness of the information put at her disposal. And as if this were not enough, the report also points to flaws in a series of investigations concerning civilian deaths, among them women and children. In the best case, those who are rejoicing over Goldstone's op-ed have not bothered to read the UN reports. In the worst case, they have read the reports and have chosen to keep them out of the public eye. Both UN reports state that despite 36 Israel Defense Forces investigations of the grave incidents mentioned in the Goldstone report, only one indictment has been filed. Moreover, both reports reach the conclusion that "given the seriousness of the allegations, the military investigations thus far appear to have produced very little." link really now? you see what your defense mechanism is doing to criticism of israel? #1 - if you have so much contempt for the arabs and how they handle justice, then why is it whenever a criticism of israel comes up, all you can do is compare it to arabs. #2 - can you show me some stats in regards to the palestinian's record in apprehending and punishing crimes? are you saying that the arabs are worse than: "... 91% of investigations [by Israeli police in the OPT] into crimes committed by Israelis against Palestinians and their property are closed without indictments being served. 84% of the investigation files are closed because of the investigators' failure to locate suspects and evidence. ... Indictments were served in less than 3% of these cases." you mean it's common for arabs to butcher a pregnant woman and kill her infant son in cold blood? your bs meter is off the charts. how is it a rare event when: 91% of investigations [by Israeli police in the OPT] into crimes committed by Israelis against Palestinians and their property are closed without indictments being served. stay focused jbg.

and i know you are sincerely bigoted by claiming followers of islam are not part of the modern world and that they contribute to killing and not helping others.

know of any crazy zealot jews?

i hope the followers of islam are listening to your heartfelt plea to abandon savagery. you are a man of conscience and peace. keep up the good work.

the impunity that the israeli, so-called justice system gives to the IDF in the occupied territories is nothing new. however, what sets this incident apart from the many previous bs verdicts is that an american citizen is involved. this verdict will hurt the zionist movement as the drive and passion for those who seek justice will increase. omar barghouti, one of the most respected leaders in the non-violent palestinian movement issued an eloquent and perfectly worded response to the verdict: It's a sad day for humanity, for the Corries, for Palestinians, for all people of conscience around the world ... Cindy and Craig, we share your hurt. We share your indignation at this Israeli mockery of justice which is typical of this unjust system. This latest and widely expected Israeli court whitewash underlines what the UN Goldstone Report had proven after the Israeli massacre in Gaza in 2008-09. Referring to “structural flaws” in the so-called Israeli justice system, the report concluded that Israel cannot be trusted to administer justice according to international standards.[Goldstone Report, paragraph 1756] Precisely! In too many cases to enumerate here, Israel's courts have rarely sentenced Jewish-Israeli criminals for killing or injuring Palestinians or wantonly destroying their property. According to Israeli human rights organization Yesh Din, "... 91% of investigations [by Israeli police in the OPT] into crimes committed by Israelis against Palestinians and their property are closed without indictments being served. 84% of the investigation files are closed because of the investigators' failure to locate suspects and evidence. ... Indictments were served in less than 3% of these cases." Even as early as 1996, at the height of the so-called "peace process," an Israeli settler fatally pistol-whipped 11-year-old Palestinian child Hilmi Shusha near Bethlehem for no apparent reason. An Israeli judge first acquitted the murderer, saying the child "died on his own as a result of emotional pressure., After numerous appeals and under pressure from the Supreme Court, which termed the act "light killing," the judge reconsidered and, as the Intifada was raging, sentenced the killer to six months of community service and a fine of a few thousand dollars. The boy’s father accused the court of issuing a "license to kill." [Reuters, January 22, 2001; Phil Reeves, "Fury as court frees settler, The Independent, January 22, 2001] Gideon Levy of Haaretz eloquently described the fine at the time as the "end-of-the-season" clearance price on Palestinian children’s lives, referring to the findings of B’tselem, Israel’s leading human rights organization, which documented dozens of similar cases in which perpetrators were either acquitted or received a slap on the wrist. [Gideon Levy, Haaretz, January 28, 2001] Adding insult to injury, the complicit Israeli judge in this case implied that Rachel was not a "thinking person" because of her heroic nonviolent attempt to stand against an indisputable war crime. Given that Israel's courts, like their South African counterparts during apartheid, have systematically and consistently been a reliable pillar of Israeli occupation, colonialism and apartheid, Israel's war crimes and crimes against humanity ought to be prosecuted in international courts where justice has a chance to see the day of light. This should also convince anyone who still needed to be convinced that without effective BDS against Israel it will never comply with international law. This is the lesson of South Africa. link it certainly is a sad day for people of conscience.

hah. this ruling, once again, demonstrates that israel cannot administer justice according to international standards. This decision is yet more proof to the fact that the Israeli courts are but another arm of the occupation and apartheid regime, which fortifies oppression instead of striving for justice. In a press conference with Rachel's family and lawyer held after the hearing, Cindy Corrie, her mother, said "This is a sad day, not only to us, as a family. This is a sad day for Israel, a sad day for human right activists, a sad day for international law, a sad day for justice." by leehee rothschild, mondoweiss

when israel throws out palestinians from their homes, confiscates their land and then allows only jews to live there, there is nothing i can do about it. they're jewish only settlements. facts don't care about your sensitivity towards someone using the words jew or jewish.

do you have something to show that it is widespread and getting worse or are you telling us how you see things?

stay focused jbg. you claimed that the news was not covered and i showed you how it was. this thread was started for three reasons: #1 - to compare and equate the elected government of palestinians' actions against palestinians to israel, the foreign occupier's actions against palestinians on palestinian land, and; #2 - to make it look like the rate of incidents where palestinians lose their homes due to the palestinian government's evictions is similar to that of israel's evictions of palestinians, while, based on the these 2 points, trying to draw the conclusion that; #3 - there is a conspiracy in the media to hide hamas' actions while villainizing israel and to show the hypocrisy of those who are asking israel to follow international law. the reason the conclusion is moot is because the first 2 points are untrue. simply due to the facts that there is media coverage and that the circumstances are so different and the rate at which they happen are so different. a better comparison of the palestinian government's actions against palestinians is what i previously pointed out; israeli government's actions against its own bedouin citizens.

i gave a response to your comparison of a foreign power, confiscating land and how it relates to the law and a government confiscating land from its own people. where is your response to israel's confiscation of palestinian land, which is prohibited under international law, that has resulted in over 1000 people losing their homes and land in just one year alone. stop playing the usual zionbot games by trying to weasel yourself out of responding to issues outside of your script.

this was my response: are you trying to say that hamas is doing to palestinians what israel is doing to palestinians? are you seriously trying to equate the two? there are a few problems with your charade. #1 - as the article you have posted mentioned: Asked why the UN was prepared to condemn Israel's demolitions but not Hamas's, he said: "When Israeli authorities go and demolish houses, they are in the position of the occupying power and sometimes these things are done to facilitate the movement of Israeli citizens, which is in breach of international law. "Where the Israelis might demolish houses of the Bedouins in the Negev, we would not comment because it is within Israel." think about that for a second. you are trying to compare what a foreign occupier does to what a government does to its own people. you also don't want to bring up that israel is demolishing bedouin homes in israel which is a good comparison with what hamas did to palestinian families. #2 - even if you want to compare the two, the amount of palestinian house demolitions by the foreign occupier as compared to the gaza government is so different, that it doesn't make sense for you to be jumping up and down screaming 'hypocrisy!'. did you know that over 1000 palestinians became homeless, just in 2011, after israel demolished their home and confiscated their land? of course you know these things are happening, but you pretend they're not and try to confuse the real issue, which is israel's occupation and theft of palestinian land, with dishonest comparisons. #3 - not only you don't give a sh*t about israel, the foreign occupier's house demolition and confiscation of palestinian land, but you try to justify it. now that someone has posted an article from may of 2010, you are up in arms and even posting "wow. just wow." like you're shocked by how someone could treat another person this way. but for some reason, your inability to recognize and condemn the systematic land grab and the ethnic cleansing of palestinians from east jerusalem and the west bank does not fall into your biased and warped view. i ask again, where are your cries of justice and humanity when israel, the foreign occupier, is demolishing palestinian homes and confiscating their land to make way for jewish only homes? where is it? palestinians displaced as a result of israel's house demolition on internationally recognized palestinian land: 2009: 643 people 2010: 606 people 2011: 1094 people source: the israeli committee against house demolition any of you zionist bots have a comment on this? or is that falling off the script? and if that wasn't enough, i added to it: it is a civil matter and the courts are involved. this is why the UN did not say anything when the bedouins were being kicked out of their homes in israel. as terrible as it is, hamas got a court order to throw the palestinians out of their homes and that is deemed legal. at the same time, whether it's legal or not, any sensible person does not want to see people being thrown out of their homes, whether they're palestinian or israeli citizens. now back to your lack of outrage, heck, even acknowledgement of israel's continuous violation of international law when they throw palestinians out of their homes and land and then confiscate their land in favour of jewish only homes. what say you sweetie?

i responded to this matter. you should follow along. it is a civil matter and the courts are involved. this is why the UN did not say anything when the bedouins were being kicked out of their homes in israel. as terrible as it is, hamas got a court order to throw the palestinians out of their homes and that is deemed legal. at the same time, whether it's legal or not, any sensible person does not want to see people being thrown out of their homes, whether they're palestinian or israeli citizens. now back to your lack of outrage, heck, even acknowledgement of israel's continuous violation of international law when they throw palestinians out of their homes and land and then confiscate their land in favour of jewish only homes. what say you sweetie? a reminder: palestinians displaced as a result of israel's house demolition on internationally recognized palestinian land: 2009: 643 people 2010: 606 people 2011: 1094 people source: the israeli committee against house demolition any of you zionist bots have a comment on this? or is that falling off the script?

a wonderful article that looks at morsi's game plan and how he out-manoeuvred the establishment and came out of nowhere to push aside the power of the military in favour of his own as the elected president: For the first month of his presidency, Morsi treated the military institutions and SCAF leaders not only with extraordinary respect but even with reverence as he sought to earn their trust. Many assumed that he had accepted SCAF’s constitutional proclamation that relegated him to a secondary role. Many foreign dignitaries visiting Egypt, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, made a point in meeting not only with Morsi but also with Tantawi. While in the country even her brief statements were awkward as she counseled the president and SCAF’s head to work together as though the country had two functioning heads of state. But what everyone failed to see was that during this period Morsi was studying the power relationships within SCAF and the other security agencies. He was able during this brief period to identify those military and security leaders whose loyalty were to Tantawi and his chief-of-staff Gen. Sami Anan. In short, he was waiting for the right moment to make his move with minimal confrontation. Luckily for him that opportunity came soon enough. more

still doing what? are you trying to say that hamas is doing to palestinians what israel is doing to palestinians? are you seriously trying to equate the two? there are a few problems with your charade. #1 - as the article you have posted mentioned: Asked why the UN was prepared to condemn Israel's demolitions but not Hamas's, he said: "When Israeli authorities go and demolish houses, they are in the position of the occupying power and sometimes these things are done to facilitate the movement of Israeli citizens, which is in breach of international law. "Where the Israelis might demolish houses of the Bedouins in the Negev, we would not comment because it is within Israel." think about that for a second. you are trying to compare what a foreign occupier does to what a government does to its own people. you also don't want to bring up that israel is demolishing bedouin homes in israel which is a good comparison with what hamas did to palestinian families. #2 - even if you want to compare the two, the amount of palestinian house demolitions by the foreign occupier as compared to the gaza government is so different, that it doesn't make sense for you to be jumping up and down screaming 'hypocrisy!'. did you know that over 1000 palestinians became homeless, just in 2011, after israel demolished their home and confiscated their land? of course you know these things are happening, but you pretend they're not and try to confuse the real issue, which is israel's occupation and theft of palestinian land, with dishonest comparisons. #3 - not only you don't give a sh*t about israel, the foreign occupier's house demolition and confiscation of palestinian land, but you try to justify it. now that someone has posted an article from may of 2010, you are up in arms and even posting "wow. just wow." like you're shocked by how someone could treat another person this way. but for some reason, your inability to recognize and condemn the systematic land grab and the ethnic cleansing of palestinians from east jerusalem and the west bank does not fall into your biased and warped view. i ask again, where are your cries of justice and humanity when israel, the foreign occupier, is demolishing palestinian homes and confiscating their land to make way for jewish only homes? where is it? palestinians displaced as a result of israel's house demolition on internationally recognized palestinian land: 2009: 643 people 2010: 606 people 2011: 1094 people source: the israeli committee against house demolition any of you zionist bots have a comment on this? or is that falling off the script?

as already mentioned, it was in may of 2010 and guess what? the media did not ignore it: http://domino.un.org/unispal.nsf/9a798adbf322aff38525617b006d88d7/611a212c63be93418525772a004a1d20?OpenDocument http://www.pchrgaza.org/portal/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6679:20-families-displaced-as-palestinian-land-authority-demolishes-homes-in-rafah-&catid=36:pchrpressreleases&Itemid=194 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8687974.stm http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37209564 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/19/world/middleeast/19gaza.html i got those from a site that discussed this story in 2010. many more articles on this story were posted, but they've been, most likely, archived and i can't be bothered to search for them. that said: the hamas government's demolishing of 12 homes in gaza, in may of 2010 was terrible. i am curious, when was the last time you showed outrage when the israeli government demolished palestinian homes on internationally recognized palestinian land, in east jerusalem and the west bank? because all i've ever seen from you is apologizing or ignoring the terrible acts by the foreign power, israel, who continues to annex and systematically ethnically cleanse palestinians out of their land. this is happening all the time. palestinians displaced as a result of israel's house demolition on internationally recognized palestinian land: 2009: 643 people 2010: 606 people 2011: 1094 people source: the israeli committee against house demolition where is your outrage? where is any of your outrage? here are some more facts: FOLLOWING MILITARY EXERCISE, SETTLERS SEIZE CONTROL OF JORDAN VALLEY LAND Itay Epshtain Publication date: Monday, July 23, 2012 Following extensive live-fire training conducted by Israeli forces in the north Jordan Valley, settlers of Ro’i seized control of 12 acres of land last week, east of Tubas. The land now cultivated by the settlers was declared a closed military zone, and off-limits to Palestinians. earlier this month as part of routine military exercise taking place in the area. In the aftermath of military training, settlers were given possession of land, previously cultivated by neighboring Palestinian communities or otherwise used as grazing land. 56% of the Jordan Valley has been declared closed military zone, and Israel regularly carries out demolitions in Palestinian communities located within those areas. Consequently, Palestinian communities are under duress to leave the area, in what in some cases may amount to the war crime of forcible population transfer. Since its 1967 occupation, Israel has coveted the Jordan Valley for its economic potential, and not the least for its strategic development importance in forestalling a viable Palestinian State. In his May 2011 speech to the US Congress, Israeli PM Binyamin Netanyahu asserted that in any final status agreement which may be reached with Palestinians, Israel would retain control over the Jordan Valley. In 2011, house demolitions and forced evictions in the Jordan Valley have increased fivefold, in comparison with 2010. 199 structures, 44% of which were family homes, have been demolished, displacing 401 people and dispersing entire communities. These constitute 40% of residential structures demolished, and 37% of people displaced in the OPT in 2011. In the first five months of 2012, 116 structures were demolished in the Jordan Valley (39% of the total structures demolished in the West Bank), of which 39 were family homes, resulting in the displacement of 197 people (37% of the total number of people displaced in the West Bank), and adversely affecting the livelihood of a further 772 people (42% of the total number of people affected in the West Bank). In July 2012 the parliamentary caucus for the annexation of Area C, headed by MK Miri Regev (Likud) tabled a draft bill calling for the de-jure annexation of the Jordan Valley, with the exception of areas under the nominal control of the Palestinian Authority (Areas A and B which constitute less than 13% of the Jordan Valley). The draft bill necessities the application of Israeli sovereignty to all Jewish territory and settlements in the Jordan Valley, referring to the Palestinian statehood initiative as the pretext for annexation at this time. The draft bill further cites the long standing position of Israeli governments that in any final status agreement signed with the Palestinian Authority, Jewish settlements will remain under Israeli sovereignty. Moreover, the draft bill cites Israeli government claims that in any final status agreement, the Jordan Valley and its Jewish settlements will remain under Israeli sovereignty. Deliberations on the draft bill will begin when the Israeli Parliament resumes business in September, following the summer hiatus. link

we all agree that it's wrong, right?

it's funny watching some of you trying to make fun of one political whore while defending another. obama, romney, biden and ryan are all prostitutes. under the election system in u.s., there is no other way for these people to come to power. without the millions being given to them by corporations and extremely wealthy businessmen, who all have an agenda, they do not have a chance in succeeding.

i don't have enough time on here to respond to other issues in depth, so i stick with one of the topics that i find matters most to the stability of the world. it's also an issue that is heavily effected by a powerful PR campaign that allows it to go on. a PR campaign which must be exposed by speaking out.

then i invite you to point out how and where you think i'm way off in anti-israel land. i'm anti anything that violates the rights of individuals. of the many atrocities that are happening around the world, the reason why the israel/palestine conflict is the most important to me, is because our western governments support and even try to justify a government who has been violating the rights of a group of people for decades. some try to flat out justify every israeli action. some try to come off as balanced by playing fence sitter and try to equate the atrocities on both sides, while i see israel being the main culprit in this ongoing issue. i see israel as having the ball in their court. i see them as being able to change the course by simply following international law. again, i'm all for discussing any issue in an honest and respectful manner. i still think how israel came to be and how the europeans forced the jewish state in palestine is questionable, but we've reached a point of no return and we must deal with the hand that we have. so i also think israel has a right to exist within the 67 borders. i have repeated this many times, but it looks like the hasbara bots have been successful in drowning out my stance.

the video in this link explains it. here is more.

why would you (sic) that like they're not deemed illegal internationally? it's not just the rest of the world, including canada that sees them as being illegal, even the international court of justice has deemed them illegal. canada's stance: Canada does not recognize permanent Israeli control over territories occupied in 1967 (the Golan Heights, the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip). The Fourth Geneva Convention applies in the occupied territories and establishes Israel's obligations as an occupying power, in particular with respect to the humane treatment of the inhabitants of the occupied territories. As referred to in UN Security Council Resolutions 446 and 465, Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. The settlements also constitute a serious obstacle to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace. your attempts at deflecting and trying to change the course of conversation is expected. even officials in the u.s. government and israel call iran rational. listen jbg, read below so i don't have to repeat it - i hate repeating myself to you because you keep repeating misinformation: JERUSALEM — The Israeli military chief described the Iranian government as “rational” in interviews published Wednesday and said he did not believe it would build a nuclear bomb, appearing to put some distance between himself and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak. link experts both in israel and in the u.s. are against a war with iran. why does it sound like you're supporting netanyahu's zionist bankroller? why are you warmongering like the idiots, netanyahu and barak?

strong words from the opposition leader, former chief of IDF and former defense minister: "You are headed for a rash confrontation at an unnecessary cost while abandoning the home front," opposition leader Kadima chairman Shaul Mofaz said at the Knesset dais, in response to remarks by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and talk about an attack on Iran. "Over the past few months, Israel has waged an extensive and relentless PR campaign with the sole objective of preparing the ground for a premature military adventure." he also talks about the u.s. elections: "This PR campaign has deeply penetrated the 'zone of immunity' of our national security, threatens to weaken our deterrence, and our relations with our best friends. Mr. prime minister, you want a crude, rude, unprecedented, reckless, and risky intervention in the US elections. Tell us who you serve and for what? Why are you putting your hand deep into the ballot boxes of the American electorate? a reference to billionaire israeli american and a self-proclaimed zionist, sheldon adelson who has no qualms about his support for the illegal jewish settlements and a war on iran. adelson has been bank rolling netanyahu's political campaigns since the 90's and he plans to donate millions to the u.s. elections in order to push his agenda. mofaz' passionate comments go even deeper: "It isn't the defense chiefs who are covering their asses for the next investigative commission. You, Mr. prime minister and the decision-maker are covering the backside of the Israeli public. Ass-coverers and wipers. Making threats and sowing the seeds of fear and terror. Mr. prime minister, you are playing a dangerous and irresponsible game with the future of an entire nation. "The piano player from the 35th floor is playing and you are dancing to his martial march. Please explain to us, Mr. prime minister, who is the real decision-maker? Will the next minister in your government also dance to the chords of this music?," link

he canceled the constitutional amendment imposed by the military which limited the power of the president and parliament. that's a big step towards the right direction and in theory, giving power back to the people. i'm sure there were some deals in the back rooms, but this move gives power back to the people.