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the 1500 murders were a response to the occupation and the thousands more murder of palestinians. as of today, besides the current palestinian government, the palestinian people, as a majority, accept israel as a state within the 1967 border. not accepting the illegal jewish settlements and the confiscation of palestinian land does not mean that they don't accept israel within the 1967 border. you need to focus a little bit here and try not to mix different issues into one. tell me, what did the oslo accords say about what israel is obliged to do? forget the oslo accords, what does international law say about israel's obligation? it's kind of cute how whenever one is faced with a hasbara bot, zionist bot, whatever you're called, all obligations by israel is thrown out the window.

both palestinians (as according to polls) and the president of palestinians, mahmoud abbas and FATAH accept the state of israel, based on the 1967 border. this is in line with what the rest of the world, including u.s. and canada accept.

here is a chance to get educated: , in 1988 Yasser Arafat declared that the Palestinians had accepted Israel's right to exist.[20] In 1993, there was an official exchange of letters between Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and Chairman Arafat, in which Arafat declared that "the PLO affirms that those articles of the Palestinian Covenant which deny Israel's right to exist, and the provisions of the Covenant which are inconsistent with the commitments of this letter are now inoperative and no longer valid." link

support israel and not the savages. so supporting the palestinians who want their own state is supporting savages?

here is what a rabbi thinks: Among those who have spoken out against them is Rabbi Rachel Kahn-Troster, of Rabbis for Human Rights — North America, who wrote for CNN online: "As a rabbi, I find the ads deeply misguided and disturbing … The coded message makes clear who the savages are: those who support jihad, which in Geller's mind includes all Muslims. She has called Islam 'an extreme ideology, the most radical and extreme ideology on the face of the Earth'. "As a Jew, I know the extreme to which baseless hatred can lead. And the Jewish community has been in the past a target of hatred in the United States. Geller's message ignores the positive contributions that our Muslim friends, neighbours and colleagues make to our country every single day. "It is also unfortunate that Geller chooses to frame her message of hatred as one of support for Israel."

don't be stupid. most people are not stupid and they see right through the message and people like you. people know that jihadists is a synonym for muslims. the poster is pro-israeli and anti-islam. pam geller is behind these ads. the same person who started the Stop Islamization of America and Park51 movement. the same person who defended radovan karadzic who was convicted of ethnic cleansing bosnian muslims. she put this piece of propaganda up to further demonize muslims and apologize for israel's human rights violations. something you, as a hasbara bot do often. israel is not the good guy in this situation. the current israeli government wants to start an unnecessary war and drag u.s. into it. you know what savagery is? it's israel's actions towards the palestinians. supporting the poster is supporting israel's call for war and the push to further demonize muslims. i understand why you support it.

if a nazi group puts an ad up saying something like 'american whites should stand for america and against the extreme jews', we shouldn't discuss the motive and the background of the group? get real.

they accept israel's right to exist. period. that's all that was needed to do. accept israel's right to exist. this 'jewish state' crap is new and it's not required of them. what now sherlock? more excuses for israel's refusal to follow international?

i couldn't resist. settlements, which are basically theft of palestinian land have nothing to do with the conflict? do you expect people to buy that or are you slow?

oh and more: All settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem are illegal under international law. US state department spokesman, Patrick Ventrell, said recently: "We do not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlement activity and we oppose any effort to legalise settlement outposts." link

here is some truth: Population of Jewish settlements in West Bank up 15,000 in a year Number of settlers has almost doubled in 12 years, increasing obstacles to two-state solution to Israeli-Palestinian conflict The number of Jewish settlers in the West Bank grew by more than 15,000 in the past year to reach a total that exceeds 350,000 for the first time and has almost doubled in the past 12 years. Figures from Israel's population registry show a 4.5% increase in the past 12 months. Most of the newcomers moved into settlements that many observers expect to be evacuated in any peace deal leading to a Palestinian state. There are an additional 300,000 Jews living in settlements across the pre-1967 border in East Jerusalem, the pro-government and mass-circulation newspaper Israel Hayom reported. are you some kind of troll? those are funny statements. you have to be.

pissing match would be, "your stone throwing children throw more stones than their stone throwing children". but that's not the intention of this thread. the intention is not to have a pissing match, but to flip the table and show the tragedy of generalization from another perspective. i appreciate your perspective. perhaps you can start a thread that works with how you think the message can be delivered. i prefer this approach instead.

quit playing dumb. you really notch down your credibility."he/she" - haha. you know pam geller. then look into it you lazy ass. take the fact's words for it. she has started a movement called Stop Islamization of America it can't be taken in isolation. she and her background should be taken into considering as she's directly behind these ads and it represents her views.

are you completely obtuse? there is no requirement for the palestinians to recognize israel as the jewish state. this is just more b.s. ad-on condition that israel has created in order to drag its feet. palestinians were required by international law to accept the state of israel and they did, first in 1988 and again at the oslo accords. what has israel done? confiscate more palestinian land.

giuliani? sure. he's as dirty and slimey as they get. i'm kind of surprised that dean is in the same group. i have a few questions: 1) one question is whether the MEK will be to iran as chalabi was to iraq. 2) is there anyway to follow the money trail to find out how all this money was thrown at the lobbyists and these whores? 3) how will they explain that iranians don't like the MEK since the MEK allied with saddam in the war against iran which ended up costing 1 million iranian lives. like, seriously? are they going to try to sell the MEK as the official iranian opposition?

are you going off on a tangent or are you insinuating that i'm posting these videos to get into a pissing match? because if you are not going off on a tangent, then as noted before, i posted this thread to show that generalizing a whole ethnic or religious group, based on the actions of a few is moronic. also, i used an example of something that they're familiar with and have an emotional investment in.

sure thing buddy. and pam geller, the person behind these ads and who happens to have started Stop Islamization of America movement oh and defended a man who was found guilty of ethnic cleansing bosnian muslims is neither racist nor islamphobic.

are all jewish children like this?

don't be stupid. most people are not stupid and they see right through the message and people like you. people know that jihadists is a synonym for muslims. the poster is pro-israeli and anti-islam. pam geller is behind these ads. the same person who started the Stop Islamization of America and Park51 movement. the same person who defended radovan karadzic who was convicted of ethnic cleansing bosnian muslims. she put this piece of propaganda up to further demonize muslims and apologize for israel's human rights violations. something you, as a hasbara bot do often. israel is not the good guy in this situation. the current israeli government wants to start an unnecessary war and drag u.s. into it. you know what savagery is? it's israel's actions towards the palestinians. supporting the poster is supporting israel's call for war and the push to further demonize muslims. i understand why you support it.

speaking of censoring free speech: Billboards criticizing US aid to Israel taken down under pressure A few week ago we posted about ten billboards going up around Albuquerque, NM calling for congress to cut off aid to Israel. They were put up by The Coalition to Stop $30 Billion to Israel, a multi-ethnic, multi-religious coalition working to “end to the ten year commitment of $30 billion in U.S. taxpayer-funded military aid pledged to Israel in 2007 by the Bush administration.” Today, the coalition sent out a press release saying that although Lamar Outdoor Advertising had signed a contract to run the billboards for eight weeks, they care coming down after three. link at the end, free speech and the good guys won. Billboard campaign to end US aid to Israel hits LA Millions of Americans will be exposed to these billboards every day as commuters in the country's second largest metropolitan area are stuck in traffic on some of the most congested roads in the world. Stop30Billion Co-founder Armen Chakerian told me the campaign plans to put up additional signs in different spots in LA each month. This is the largest advertising campaign launched by Stop30Billion thus far. Last spring its successful campaign in Denver, Colorado, garnered lots of attention from citizens and local media. Stop 30 Billion is a grassroots campaign with humble beginnings, funded by ordinary citizens. They got off to a rocky start when their first billboards were taken down under pressure by Lamar Outdoor Advertising after only three weeks even though they had signed a contract to run the billboards for eight weeks. The billboard company for Stop30Billion's LA initiative is CBS Outdoor, the outdoor advertising division of media conglomerate CBS Corporation.

you don't get it? the posters want people to think simple. like it's all black and white. by equating israel as the good guys and anyone else who goes against their policies, the bad guys. there is a lot wrong with the poster and only hasbara bots such as yourself would defend it.

not to worry kraychik, i will champion your right to express whatever racist diatribe you want. however, it doesn't mean that i will agree to it.

the racist minority are everywhere, propagating their hatred. the latest are racist ads posted in san francisco and new york: A friend just sent us these photos of two of the Islamophobic ads that were put up earlier today by Pam Geller's organization in ten New York subway stations. They got a makeover; and their true character has been revealed. check the photos.

it's so wonderful and refreshing to have a 'muslim majority countries' expert such as krachik to tell us more about our world and those people.

no. it doesn't touch a nerve. i've seen enough of you bigots and racists on the net to know that you're crawling everywhere. it's a good thing though, that you're a screaming minority and most do not agree with your racist propaganda. my post was to show how stupid it is to generalize and label a group of people, based on the actions of a very very small percentage of people. but you're too stupid to realize this because you're so consumed with your tribalistic zealotry. carry on with your hate agenda.