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you're telling me that you and the whole zion crew in this this forum would not be crying anti-semitism if someone came here demanding to "stop jewing up america" ? right. i believe accusations of "anti-semitism" are direly overused, especially by people relfexively jumping to defend any perceived slight to israel. criticizing a country or ideology or the tendencies of its follower is not racism.

the biggest bully in the playground is israel and harper's actions are mostly due to the pressure of the israeli lobby which wants to isolate iran.

if the deaths of innocent civilians matter to you, then this latest study is quite alarming: Just one in 50 victims of America’s deadly drone strikes in Pakistan are terrorists – while the rest are innocent civilians, a new report claimed today. The authoritative joint study, by Stanford and New York Universities, concludes that men, women and children are being terrorised by the operations ’24 hours-a-day’. And the authors lay much of the blame on the use of the ‘double-tap’ strike where a drone fires one missile – and then a second as rescuers try to drag victims from the rubble. One aid agency said they had a six-hour delay before going to the scene. The tactic has cast such a shadow of fear over strike zones that people often wait for hours before daring to visit the scene of an attack. Investigators also discovered that communities living in fear of the drones were suffering severe stress and related illnesses. Many parents had taken their children out of school because they were so afraid of a missile-strike. link are nobel peace prizes ever taken back?

they really have those crazy christians by their balls. they have their support both politically and economically with the promise that the jews will burn and die some time in the future. by the way bonam, since you're here and all of a sudden feeling chatty, i am also wondering about you and how you kind of disappeared during our discussion in this thread. do you want to just forget about it and pretend it didn't happen or are you going to respond to this?

i'd agree. who said money can't buy a great image? which of these PR videos would you say is better: #1 #2

what happened to you man? we were having a discussionand suddenly you disappeared. american woman does this all the time, but i didn't expect it from you. i mean, she responds but only to one sentence so that it looks like she's responding when she really isn't. kind of like how she responded to this post.

or this:

ooh beach fun! great pr! the gazans could also use some beach pr! maybe they should use this:

ooh! hasbara bot loves it! propaganda is introduced in different ways:

while american woman continues to try to stand up for pam geller, here is the ADL chair on pam geller, the person behind these posters - remember, ADL is a jewish organization who regularly defends israel: Geller's self-righteous campaign to show the world the "true face" of Islam is abhorrent and morally repugnant. Geller, in views she outlines in her blog, has linked Islam to bestiality and rape of minors, compared Muslims to Nazis and asserted that Islam inspired Hitler. The Anti-Defamation League has closely followed her anti-Muslim scapegoating and that of Stop Islamization of America, the organization she leads, and has posted additional examples of her comments on its website. Robert G. Sugarman National Chair

why should anyone waste time to respond to someone who leaves other discussions unfinished and instead goes into denial mode when confronted?

you're right, i didn't need to waste my time with the insult. and, what do you mean "the post i'm talking about is not mine"?

ew. you're a dishonest poster. absolutely no integrity. he challenged you to give citation and instead you respond this way. *edited to remove "insults"

the week is never complete until we have another american woman episode where, despite getting an explanation and a review of the explanation, she cannot accept that she's wrong and instead goes into denial mode decorated with emoticons.

love this message that was left beside one of the ads: I AM A JEWISH JIHADI On Yom Kippur, I am fasting and reflecting. I am a Jewish Jihadi. Jihad is an Islamic process of reflection and struggle to bring thoughts, words and actions in alignment with prayer and best ethical practices. So too as Jews we practice sleichot (asking for forgiveness), and teshuva (return to good), offering compensation, asking for forgiveness from the humans whom we have offended. Indeed this Jewish Month, Elul, comes from a Semitic language of ancient times called Akkadian - and it is also the month of Eylul in Arabic. Our roots are interwoven as is our spirituality. I ask my Muslim brothers and sisters to forgive those Jews whose fear and ignorance only points outward, rather than inward as this day of Yom Kippur asks us to do. TO my fellow Jews - G'mar Hatima Tova. B'shalom Marcia Kannry Founder - The Dialogue Project http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/334678_477248908962060_1186568200_o.jpg

stick to being a hasbara bot. leave the comedy to others. i will spell it out for you so you're not confused: the message in the poster wants to equate a dishonest meaning of jihadists to savages and then equate both of those to muslims. not only that, but it also wants to push the idea that if you're not supporting israel, then you're supporting savages and the uncivilized. this poster and its message manages to be wrong on so many levels and yet, you defend it. really? your attempts at flaming are just not working. stop embarrassing yourself. looks like we have to revisit the comment that has you confused and insulted: don't be stupid. most people are not stupid and they see right through the message and people like you. people know that jihadists is a synonym for muslims. i was talking about the message in the poster which tries to make jihadists synonymous with muslims. it's not what i think or what the actual meaning is, it's about the meaning behind the message.

i didn't know you felt insulted. regardless, i show respect to those who show and deserve respect. i don't think jihadist is synonymous with muslim. what i think is that pam geller tries to equate the two in her poster. which is what she's been doing with all her work since she crawled from the under the rug. not only that, but jihad should not be stereotyped and misinterpreted. as mentioned before: we have to look at the meaning of jihad and jihadist so that we're not oversimplifying or spreading stereotyping. jihadists are a mix of people, just like zionists are a mix of people. not all zionists advocate the death of gentile babies just like not all jihadists advocate blowing civilians up or cutting their heads off. An accurate interpretation of the concept of Jihad is provided by the BBC about how Muslims describe three different types of struggles: A believer's internal struggle to live out the Muslim faith as well as possible The struggle to build a good Muslim society Holy war: the struggle to defend Islam, with force if necessary In western societies the term jihad is often translated by non-Muslims as "holy war". Scholars of Islamic studies often stress that these words are not synonymous. Muslim authors, in particular, tend to reject such an approach, stressing non-militant connotations of the word.

weak. not surprising that you avoid discussing pam geller and her quest and instead, you flake. your dishonesty has become a routine.

but it's necessary to take the side of justice and the truth.

who cares about what YOU think. we all know what you think and what you support. this is about the poster and the message it wants to convey. this is about a person who leads an organization called Stop Islamization of America. this is about a poster that gives you the option of supporting israel or else you're supporting jihadists/savages. as many (including rabbis and the ADL) have correctly said, this woman and her posters are racist.

we have to look at the meaning of jihad and jihadist so that we're not oversimplifying or spreading stereotyping. jihadists are a mix of people, just like zionists are a mix of people. not all zionists advocate the death of gentile babies just like not all jihadists advocate blowing civilians up or cutting their heads off. An accurate interpretation of the concept of Jihad is provided by the BBC about how Muslims describe three different types of struggles: A believer's internal struggle to live out the Muslim faith as well as possible The struggle to build a good Muslim society Holy war: the struggle to defend Islam, with force if necessary In western societies the term jihad is often translated by non-Muslims as "holy war". Scholars of Islamic studies often stress that these words are not synonymous. Muslim authors, in particular, tend to reject such an approach, stressing non-militant connotations of the word. this is a public discussion board. i am responding to the people who are trying to justify her actions and i feel that it's my duty to speak out against b.s.

we need to visit the meaning of ethnic cleansing: Ethnic cleansing (from Serbo-Croatian etničko čišćenje[1]) is a purposeful policy designed by one ethnic or religious group to remove by violent and terror-inspiring means the civilian population of another ethnic or religious group from certain geographic areas. this is exactly what israel has been doing. not sure how you came about that conclusion. let me explain my view: i don't advocate 100% arab palestine. when did i say that? i'm talking about illegal jewish settlements that israel has created inside the palestinian territory which are cut off from palestinians. i'm talking about the jewish only roads that connect these illegal settlements to israel. these are lands that have been stolen from palestinians to create jewish only colonies. these jewish settlements are all considered illegal under international law for a reason. for your information, here is canada's official stance on keys issues in the palestinian/israeli conflict: Status of Jerusalem Canada does not recognize Israel's unilateral annexation of East Jerusalem. Occupied Territories and Settlements Canada does not recognize permanent Israeli control over territories occupied in 1967 (the Golan Heights, the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip). The Fourth Geneva Convention applies in the occupied territories and establishes Israel's obligations as an occupying power, in particular with respect to the humane treatment of the inhabitants of the occupied territories. As referred to in UN Security Council Resolutions 446 and 465, Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. The settlements also constitute a serious obstacle to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace.

not to say that the palestinians living in israel are treated fairly, but there is a difference between what is inside israel and what is in the occupied territories. here is an example of systematic ethnic cleansing: east jerusalem has been occupied and illegally annexed by israel. as according to international law (which u.s. and canada agree with), the annexation is illegal. what is happening in east jerusalem is ethnic cleansing. there are thousands of cases of arab homes being confiscated and then given to jews to live in. they make it more and more difficult for palestinians to stay in east jerusalem. housing permits are pretty much impossible to get if you are palestinian. if you are jewish, it's a piece of cake. inside israel: if a palestinian living in israel gets married to a palestinian outside of israel, he cannot bring his/her spouse over. while any jew is able to move to israel. history of ethnic cleansing: palestinians were expelled from their homes. over 500 palestinian villages were destroyed and around 700,000 palestinians fleed their homes due to fears of being killed. thousands were killed by jewish militants, including the massacre in the village deir yassin. of the 700,000 palestinians who fleed, none were allowed to comeback to their homes. this is an example of ethnic cleansing. you can read more about the ethnic cleansing of palestinians. i don't understand why you're asking me a bizarre question like i agreed with the premise somewhere else.

i don't question israel's military strength. they have one of the most powerful militaries in the world. it also helps that they receive $3 billion + a year from the u.s. towards their military, including information on some of the top tech toys in the world. that's besides the point. if israel suddenly attacks and wipes the palestinians out, they'd be fucked internationally. this is why they're engaging in a slow and systematic form of ethnic cleansing and land theft. this is why the jewish settlements in the west bank and east jerusalem continue to increase.

she's given 2 options. either support israel or support jihadists. what is her meaning of jihadists? is it by any chance any group that is in conflict with israel? are jihadists palestinians? if i support palestinians, am i supporting jihadists/savages? if rabbis and ADL are coming out and calling her a bigot and racist, what do you think is her objective? you think that she's not aiming this ad campaign at muslims? even though she started an organization called: Stop Islamization of America? here is the ADL chair on pam geller, the person behind these posters: Geller's self-righteous campaign to show the world the "true face" of Islam is abhorrent and morally repugnant. Geller, in views she outlines in her blog, has linked Islam to bestiality and rape of minors, compared Muslims to Nazis and asserted that Islam inspired Hitler. The Anti-Defamation League has closely followed her anti-Muslim scapegoating and that of Stop Islamization of America, the organization she leads, and has posted additional examples of her comments on its website. Robert G. Sugarman National Chair