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american woman shows her true hasbara bot roots, by posting from alan dershowitz's "stand with us" site. a propaganda site created by another israeli firster. there is no point in responding to propaganda that uses quotes out of context to push an agenda, instead of trying to be truthful. i'll point out just one of those but to waste any more time is giving legitimacy to the b.s. as according to the footnotes of the propaganda piece posted by american woman, the above quote comes from an LA times article. the problem is that no such comment was made by mahmoud daher. "It's not the kind of disaster that you might see in other places," said Mahmud Daher, head of WHO's Gaza office. "But it's always on the edge of a crisis. And without the help of the international community, it would be a crisis." Passing through the half-mile Erez checkpoint and emerging into Gaza, the contrast could hardly be more stark. In Israel, there are shopping malls and traffic lights. In Gaza, donkey carts and herds of goats cross the road. Young boys pick through the debris of bombed-out buildings to salvage construction materials. a dishonest person such as american woman will continue to spread misinformation because she is here to propagate for zionism.

bill kristol's neocon group "emergency committee for israel" is conducting robocalls where they patch together audio from different obama & bibi speeches into a "debate" between the two on iran where obama sides with iran over israel. these people spent the past year pressuring obama to set a firm redline to send an unequivocal message on the nuclear issue, now they are mashing up his speeches to confuse for political purposes. sick. http://blogs.jta.org...robocall-debate

for sure. the control (theft) of water by israel on palestinian land is a huge issue.

there is peeves version of the world and then there is reality: in 2010 alone Israeli domination caused the Palestinian economy a loss of about $6.8 billion. 1. Israel is preventing Gaza from exporting agricultural and industrial products. 2. Israel is exploiting to the fullest the natural resources of the West Bank: water, quarries, mining in the Dead Sea, agricultural land, industrial zones, tourism and hiking sites. Every plus for the Israelis on the West Bank is a minus for the Palestinians. 3. Israel controls the electromagnetic spectrum and thereby limits the efficiency and profitability of the Palestinian cellular companies and the Palestinian high-tech industry. 4. Israel forbids Gaza fishermen to sail further than three nautical miles, severely limiting their prospects. 5. Israel conducts unfair competition with Palestinian products: subsidized water for Israeli farmers, including those in the settlements, compared to a minimal allocation of drinking water to the Palestinians. When drinking water in Hebron and Bethlehem is supplied to homes once a month, it’s no wonder that the vegetable fields are parched. ‏(“Do you know how much a kilo of tomatoes costs? Eight shekels,” demonstrators in Hebron told me, as though they were talking about meat. “Do you know that we’ve stopped growing cauliflower?” said a farmer in Halhoul, angrily noting the Israeli cauliflower in the stall.‏) 6. Due to the Israeli refusal to link up Palestinian communities in Area C ‏(the 61 percent of the West Bank which the Oslo Accords placed under full Israeli control‏), tens of thousands of people have to purchase water from tankers all year long. In the summer hundreds of thousands whose faucets have dried up have to buy water from tankers. The transportation increases the price of water to an average of eight times and more what their “neighbors,” the settlers, pay. With that money, how many enrichment classes in English and math could those families finance for their children? How many young men and women could they send to study at the university? 7. Israel forces the Palestinians to travel on twisting byways, from one enclave to another or from the city to the villages and towns in the district. Let’s assume that on average the distance to every destination is lengthened by 10 kilometers. That should be multiplied by six days a week, at least twice a day, 30,000 vehicles ‏(and that’s without including about 100,000 private cars‏). The unnecessary additional cost is divided among the drivers on public transportation and the passengers, and between the truck drivers and the merchants and customers. How many clinics could this addition pay for? How many millions of euros does it cost the European taxpayer? link

why so many lies?

the stupid gazans should have gone into schools that were run by UN, where no hamas militants were present to take refuge. that way they would have been safe from the most moral army in the world.

totally! land theft, expanding jewish settlements and stealing resources is all about 'survival'.

the notion that israel is annexing land and building settlements due to security reasons is the dumbest thing the hasbara bots tries to sell. just call it what it is; land theft.

the occupation and land theft came way before suicide attacks and rocket attacks. rocket attacks are a symptom of israel's actions. you know it and i know it. so why lie?

welfare cheque, courtesy of the american people's credit card.

if americans actually knew about this, i wonder how many of them would be okay with it. The Israeli army's chief of staff states that in the past three years, "US taxpayers have contributed more to the Israeli defense budget than Israeli taxpayers," according to a report in the Jerusalem Post, a prominent Israeli newspaper. American taxpayers give Israel over $3 billion per year (over $8 million per day), more than to any other nation, despite the fact that Israel is smaller than New Jersey and is in the top 30 richest countries in the world. Per capita, Israelis receive $10,000 more U.S. tax money than average. According to the Congressional Research Service, Israel is given this money in a lump sum at the beginning of the fiscal year. Americans then pay interest on money they have given to Israel, while Israel makes interest on it. link

i love how the hasbara bots are either trying to take attention away from the obvious by changing the subject or trying to justify the israeli jews supporting of an apartheid regime. israel's culture is a sick culture. what many of the israelis do and accept when it comes to the treatment of the palestinians would never be accepted in north america.

abomination. aaahhh.

you'd think when you try to equate two things, they should somehow be similar, no? let me make this easy for you. let's replace the words to show how ridiculous your comparison is. oh and welcome back! majority of the canadian public, 59 percent, wants preference for canadians over first nations in admission to jobs in government ministries. Almost half the canadians, 49 percent, want the state to treat canadian citizens better than first nations ones; 42 percent don't want to live in the same building with first nations and 42 percent don't want their children in the same class with first nations children.

you're in denial and you want others to be in denial with you. it's over buddy. the facts cannot be hidden. despite your charade, majority of the people are interested in facts and not ramblings of an extremist zionist such as yourself. majority of palestinians are willing to live next to a state of israel. they've accepted this for a long time. a border, based on the 1967 border is what the rest of the world also agrees with. it's time to side-step israel, which has never been interested in a palestinian state and has in fact, vowed to never allow one to be formed. in a few years, you, kraychik and other hasbara bots are going to be just like the racists who still long for apartheid south africa.

was there really a surprise? when you have a nation that came to be through ethnic cleansing what do you expect? the following information is a reason why canadians and americans cannot identify with zionism. link Most of the Jewish public in Israel supports the establishment of an apartheid regime in Israel if it formally annexes the West Bank. A majority also explicitly favors discrimination against the state's Arab citizens, a survey shows. The majority of the Jewish public, 59 percent, wants preference for Jews over Arabs in admission to jobs in government ministries. Almost half the Jews, 49 percent, want the state to treat Jewish citizens better than Arab ones; 42 percent don't want to live in the same building with Arabs and 42 percent don't want their children in the same class with Arab children. 58% of jewish israelis accept that israel practices apartheid against arabs: Although the territories have not been annexed, most of the Jewish public (58 percent ) already believes Israel practices apartheid against Arabs. Only 31 percent think such a system is not in force here. Over a third (38 percent ) of the Jewish public wants Israel to annex the territories with settlements on them, while 48 percent object. this is why the world can no longer stay silent and watch. majority of the israeli culture has become morally sick and can no longer be trusted in doing the right thing. we're going to see another world movement, resembling apartheid south africa.

as long as you have them justifying it to themselves and believing: "the bottom line is: 'whose 4-year-olds get killed?'", then it's okay.

the PLO has recognized israel. this happened back in 1988 and re-confirmed at oslo. so yeah, the israeli government has refused to accept a palestinian state as they see all of the land as the 'eternal land of the jewish people'.

channeling yourself?

the republican party has become a magnate for idiots, bigots and the diabolic such as palin, donald trump and romney. thus, if you are poor and vote for romney, you have NO brains; if you are rich and vote for romney, you have no human compassion; and if you are voting for obama and the democratic Party, you have NO choice. obama does not care why one would vote for him; as long as one votes for him, in this plutocratic charade disguised as democracy.

agreed. i'd like to know if he feels as googooly about life and how sacred and precious it is when it comes to supporting wars.

Hamas has refused to renounce violence or recognise Israel’s right to exist israel has refused to renounce violence or recognize palestinians' right to a state. they're both shitty.

you need to understand that goldstone and his team are considered experts. you also need to understand that amnesty international and human rights watch are also considered experts, since their job is to know international law, go to where the issues are and research what is happening. you can't because you are nowhere close to knowing international law or know how to do any research. you're also incapable of being fair and just when it comes to political issues.

eh? you didn't say it was a declaration but you said U.N. declared.. blah blah? U.N. did NOT declare the blockade (naval) to be legal. a report by a politically charged commission did. the U.N. cannot take a position on reports and missions unless there is a due process. not clear enough, since you left out the word 'naval' when trying to give people a lesson on what UN has "declared". ah, right. okay. here is another instant where you're running away from posts that rip apart your narrative and agenda: let's start with two things you need to learn in regards to this issue, so you'd have a better understanding of what you're trying to debate here: first, the palmer report said the naval blockade is legal. it did not make a ruling on the entire gaza blockade. it's very important that you understand that. second, the UN has not declared that the naval blockade is legal, even though that was the finding of the palmer report. this is just like how the UN has not declared that israel's blockade of gaza is illegal and is a war crime, even though that is what the goldstone report, and many human rights organizations have concluded. if you want to know more about UN declarations, go here. by the way, while we're talking about the palmer report, let's look at a tiny mention of something, that made it to the politically charged report: “Forensic evidence showing that most of the deceased were shot multiple times, including in the back, or at close range has not been adequately accounted for in the material presented by Israel.” let's also talk about criticism of the report's conclusion in regards to the naval blockade of gaza. here is one from Gisha - Legal Center for Freedom of Movement. gisha is chaired by kenneth mann, a professor at tel aviv university faculty of law. gisha's board members include dan rabinowitz, yishai blank and alaa masarwa, all also professors at tel aviv university faculty of law. here is what they say about the legality of the maritime blockade: “By preventing the passage of civilians and goods of a civilian nature to and from the Gaza Strip, Israel has paralyzed the economy of the area and caused substantial damage to key aspects of civilian life. In so doing, it has violated its obligations under international law, rendering its policy of closure – including the maritime closure – unlawful.” a lot can be learned from one post. here is what another UN panel has said about the report and the blockade: Mr. Richard Falk, Special rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the occupied Palestinian territory, stressed that “The Palmer report was aimed at political reconciliation between Israel and Turkey. It is unfortunate that in the report politics should trump the law.” Mr. Falk continued, “the most questionable move of the Palmer Panel was to separate the naval blockade from the overall closure of Gaza to a normal supply of humanitarian supplies, including supplies needed for medical operations and sanitation. The flotilla incident was about the effort to circumvent this aspect of Israeli policies, and the organizers posed no objection to inspection carried out to prevent weapons from entering Gaza.” The blockade of Gaza continues to violate international law, the experts concluded, recalling that this conclusion had been reached by the international fact-finding mission appointed by the Human Rights Council to inquire into the 31 May 2010 flotilla incident in its report of September 2010. “It is unacceptable that the human rights of the people of Gaza are disregarded because of the positions adopted by political leaders”, the experts said. “It is not the Hamas Government that is being punished, but ordinary Gazans.”

the label sociopath should be extended to people in this thread who defend the drone attacks that kill innocent people. Joe Klein's sociopathic defense of drone killings of children Reflecting the Obama legacy and US culture, the Time columnist says: "the bottom line is: 'whose 4-year-olds get killed?'" On MSNBC's Morning Joe program this morning, which focused on Monday's night presidential debate, the former right-wing Congressman and current host Joe Scarborough voiced an eloquent and impassioned critique of President Obama's ongoing killing of innocent people in the Muslim world using drones. In response, Time Magazine's Joe Klein, a stalwart Obama supporter, offered one of the most nakedly sociopathic defenses yet heard of these killings. This exchange, which begins at roughly the 7:00 minute mark on the video embedded below, is quite revealing in several respects. terrorists and terrorist supporters.