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  1. bud
    no. on november 29, 1947, the united nations general assembly voted 33 to 13, with 10 abstentions, in favour of a partition plan that created the state of israel.
  2. bud
    what created israel? pixie dust from the bible?
  3. bud
    exactly. when the shoe fits and you are able to cite how it fits, then it makes sense. this is why it's okay to call you a hasbara bot. are you going to admit that international law, which created israel, states that the refugees should be dealt with or are you going to avoid accepting this fact like hasbara bots usually do?
  4. bud
    why do we need to defend a country or a group like we have a need to be cheerleaders? how about defending facts, justice and humanity? any time i call someone a hasbara bot, i give the reason(s) why i am calling them a hasbara bot. for example, my last post: oh yes. international law. the very same thing that created the state of israel. i love how you always run away from debating the facts. it's become a regular thing with you. when faced with facts, you: 1) either do not respond and wait for fluff posters like peeves, dogonmufit et al, to make a few posts so you can pretend the post never happened, or 2) avoid discussing them and try to change the discussion by talking about something else, or 3) claim that you don't agree with them like your opinion changes the facts typical cowardly hasbara bot approach to discussions about israel.
  5. bud
    so people should report you, american woman and the rest of hasbara bots for continuously calling me or anyone who criticizes israel anti-semite?
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    you spread misinformation because that's how you roll. ethan bronner, the most recent jerusalem bureau chief for the new york times is anything but anti-israel. he has been called biased many times, but it's usually against the palestinians. he also has a son in the IDF.
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    oh yes. international law. the very same thing that created the state of israel. i love how you always run away from debating the facts. it's become a regular thing with you. when faced with facts, you: 1) either do not respond and wait for fluff posters like peeves, dogonmufit et al, to make a few posts so you can pretend the post never happened, or 2) avoid discussing them and try to change the discussion by talking about something else, or 3) claim that you don't agree with them like your opinion changes the facts typical cowardly hasbara bot approach to discussions about israel.
  8. bud
    denial.
  9. bud
    i like to confront hypocrites, zealots and those who are selective about what they deem to be acceptable and not acceptable. some people in this thread have a purpose and that is to further their tribalistic and nationalistic agenda by propagating and spreading misinformation and half-truths. people like bonam, dogonmufti, our resident leftist, american woman, jbg and my favourite character, mr. canada (the resident rightwing nutjob). so no, i'm not attacking jews. i love jews. some of my favourite people in this world are jewish.
  10. bud
    lol.. kind of like how many jews take the bible literally and actually think palestinian land (aka greater israel) belongs to them even though they really have had no ties to the land, because the book says so? lol lol lol
  11. bud
    really now? is this statistic brought to us by argus and Wenzel Strategies/Citizens United?
  12. bud
    got to love a poll commissioned by Wenzel Strategies/Citizens United Poll which also puts romney ahead of obama in ohio even though most other polls say the opposite. bonam's response to this poll, reminds me of his response and support of the poll which shows that israelis' widespread support for apartheid and the ethnic cleansing of palestinians. bonam is such a die hard! oh and i love mr. canada and his colbert-esque approach to debating. he manages to flush out all the Resident Right Wing Nutjobs
  13. bud
    i accept israel as a state just like international law does and majority of the world does. as far as accepting israel as a 'jewish' state, which basically means not dealing with the palestinian refugees who were driven out of what is now israel, my answer is yes on the condition of dealing with the refugee problem first. any person with an ounce of moral value and respect for international law would also agree that we can't just sweep the question of the status of the refugees under the rug and pretend that they're not there. that needs to be dealt with first as according to international law. here is a chance for you to learn something: Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country. -Article 13(2), Universal Declaration of Human Rights (10 December 1948). The Geneva Conventions of 1949. The General Assembly, Having considered further the situation in Palestine ... Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbors should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible." -UN General Assembly Resolution 194 (11 December 1948) United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3236 which "reaffirms also the inalienable right of the Palestinians to return to their homes and property from which they have been displaced and uprooted, and calls for their return". Resolution 242 from the UN affirms the necessity for "achieving a just settlement of the refugee problem." Palestinian refugees should be free to seek their right to repatriation, regardless of what the PLO acquiesces to, so long as UN Resolution 194 remains in force". No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of the right to enter his own country. -Article 12, International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (23 March 1976).
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    and you got my answer. as long as they're able to deal with the hundreds of thousands of refugees that were driven out of what is now israel, then yes. if they cannot deal with it, then no. capiche?
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    let's make a little wager here: if obama wins, shady should have to wear an I LOVE OBAMA shirt and take a photo of himself wearing it. if romney wins, punked (or another obama fan) should wear an I LOVE ROMNEY shirt and take a photo of him/herself wearing it. what do you say?
  16. bud
    israel has already annexed major parts of the west bank where the illegal settlements are where palestinians are not allowed to travel through. they've also annexed east jerusalem. it's not so hypothetical when it is happening.
  17. bud
    of course there is a "but". when hundreds of thousands of people's rights to the land has not yet been resolved, then we cannot move to the next step. over 500 palestinian villages in the modern day israel were demolished by the israeli army and militia. over 700,000 people were either driven out or they were forced to escape. their fate needs to be resolved in the form of compensation and land swap. once that is resolved, then, as mentioned, israel can implement whatever racist laws they want inside israel. (not to say that their laws are not already racist).
  18. bud
    i'm tired of..
  19. bud
    yes, as long as they can figure out the issue with the palestinian refugees who have a right to that land more than majority of the israelis who live in israel. good girl.
  20. bud
    the answer is that you have a hard time comprehending what i said. if the israelis and the palestinians can figure out the refugee problem, which looks like they have in the past through compensation and land swap, then whatever racist, apartheid law israel wants to implement inside israel, then i don't care. at the moment, my problem with israel is the always increasing annexation and theft of palestinian land in the west bank and east jerusalem. do you support the right of palestinians to have a state alongside an israeli state?
  21. bud
    from what i have read from the past agreements, the issue of the palestinian refugees who were driven out of modern day israel has been an issue that was resolved in the form of compensation. the taba summit was one of those talks where the israeli and palestinians negotiators came very close to a result. unfortunately, it all ended after israeli elections and sharon came to power. personally, if the 'right of return' issue can be negotiated and resolved, which seem to have been resolved, i don't care what kind of racist and apartheid rules israel chooses to adopt inside israel. the problem is that the right wing israelis also want east jerusalem, chunks of west bank and they are against a palestinian state being formed.
  22. bud
    what is the difference between israel's right to exist as "a state" and as "a jewish state"?
  23. bud
    yes.
  24. bud
    no you don't. show me where i've said what you think i've said.
  25. bud
    with your attention span of a fish, it makes it difficult to communicate with you. as i mentioned, the list of information you posted from the propaganda web site, gives a footnote and the source of where the information was taken from. they listed the LA times article as the source and nowhere in the LA Times article was the quoted sentence by mahmud is to be seen. the article that was cited by your propaganda piece didn't say it. drinking and posting again? could explain many things. ohhh yeah! ethan bonner is SO anti-israel. so anti-israel that he has a son in the IDF. again, this whole malnutrition thing has been taken out of context to make it sound like the gazans are living a happy and healthy life. even the extremely "anti-israel" article in NYT *wink wink* talks about the terrible life of the gazans under israel's occupation and blockade which has been deemed illegal by the goldstone report, human rights watch and amnesty international.
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