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Ill put the polls during the campain on the web if it interest anyone. First of all, there are 2 polls that are most of the time accurate, Crop and Leger marketing. the first official one from crop: PLQ: 35% PQ: 32% ADQ 18% According to Claude Gauthier "work at Crop", the PQ would win (didn't say if it was a minority or majority), last poll i saw they said that too and i think it was a majority by 1 seats... So it could very well be majority or minority. Its very interesting because, at first sight we would think the PLQ is most likly to win, in fact in the poll they say 61% of the people think the PLQ will win. But it is because the liberal vote is very high in some county, in fact i think in 1998 the PQ won a majority government and had 1% less than the PLQ. About sovreignty, they say 48% would say "yes" if there was a referendum. http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20070221...88/CPACTUALITES

I think it will be an interesting campain because anything could happend, we don't know who will win, the PLQ the ADQ or the PQ. August made some interesting comment: I see 3 possible scenario: 1st) The ADQ get more vote than expected specially in the same region where the conservative won, the PQ do bad, the adq win a minority/majority government. 2nd) The undecided vote goes back to the PQ and the ADQ get less vote than expected, the PQ win a minority,majority government even if they have 2-3% less than the PLQ in the overall vote (Because some county vote liberal at more than 90%). 3rd) The ADQ get less vote than expected and the PQ get less vote than expected. The PLQ win a minority/majority government. I have the feeling it won't be the 3rd because the only reason the PLQ won last election was people choose at the last minute to get rid of the PQ. I feel like the PLQ will have a hard time getting more supporter than they already have unless the PQ and the ADQ do really bad because at the moment they may not have enough vote to win a minority government even if they do have more % than other party. The ADQ and the PQ are big question mark, i beleive the PQ is at his lowest right now, if they get less vote then they will collapse before the election and the ADQ will get the support and win the election. However its possible that the ADQ get more liberal county than PQ county, its hard to know, at the last federal election the Bloc lost less county than the liberals, was it because of the conservative vote ?

Hmmm, if i was PM, id refuse to pay and she would be forced to bankrupt... thats what she deserve for having no respect for the taxpayers... But can we blame her ? after all she is the perfect fit for this job, she showed us what monarchy is all about!

Many quebecker will smile at this news, Stephan Dion is not relly well loved in quebec, through the year he earned the reputation of being ottawa's puppet. He have 0 charisma and charm like harper, he his an intellectual, he his very very intellectual, he knows how to debate on paper but he doesn't have what it takes to talk to ordinary people.

After 40 years of denial, finally canada open there eyes... It has been 40years since we are no more french-canadian and 40year since we stopped acting like french canadian. I hope it will help people understand why quebeckers want a voice on the international scene...

He looks just like his father but without the brain... Anyway, you know what i mean, the difference is hard to tell...

The Meech Lake accord would be the minimum requirement for me to start to feel as a part of canada. I don't want to associate myself to a trudeauist country.

It is an interesting explanation. personally i thought they where just more to the right than the rest of Quebec but i had a hard time understanding why the ADQ had so much trouble in the polls.

This is a good news, the less money they spend, the better...

Chrétiens and Dion = dumb and dumber... Honestly, Chrétiens was not popular at all in quebec but Dion is considered a big joke in quebec... I am definatly not a liberal supporter but Ignatieff looks like the best federal option to me if i wasn't voting for the bloc. However, i would like Dion to win because i and many quebeckers could laugh our ass off the liberal... Even more than we did with chretiens .

Its a troubling subject, i beleive the more we talk about it, it may encourage others to do the same thing. However,its true that we somehow have to talk about it, its problably relied to many things: violence in our society, gun controls, the web, isolation, bullying and etc..

"as soon as possible", "winning condition" and etc... In PQ coding IMO it mean they don't plan on making a referendum soon unless there is a major change.

I don't really disagree with the mission in afganistan, but i do agree we need to discuss it. First of all its our taxes and the country's philosophy that is linked to this war, its not only a military matters. If ever we had to go in Iraq for sample... it would be totally different and therefore i guess we need to make a law that makes it illegal to declare war on a country if we didnt get attacked by them without a debate in ottawa where evry party can say what they think and how it should be managed and what is the goal and cost.

This is an interesting subject, something unlikly happend last election, but it is hard to understand. The Conservative won the ADQ supporters, but the funiest thing is that they won more seats with less % than the ADQ... This is the thing that is weird, it explain that those vote are due to the bloc inability to govern and the frustration torward the federal liberals because on the provincial scene, it is completly different. In other word, the conservative force perform better on the federal scene even if they have close to no organisation. It must be frustrating to Mario Dumont, while his party has trouble with an out of control debt and is losing support all accross the province because he does have to pay for the conservatives mistakes in the region of montreal and he can't win the seats in quebec city area because on the provincial scene, the PQ and the PLQ are far more competitive than the BQ and PLC...

sry, double post

So what are they saying in Quebec? You're there and should have some idea. All day on radio when the first poll came out, various wags were saying that the chances of a fall election were not likely because there would be no gains in Quebec. Its quite simple, there is an area near quebec city that are more encline to vote for an economically conservative party. They used to vote for the liberals and the bloc but they changed their mind last election especially to get rid of the liberal. I think nothing has changed over their, the conservative would still win their seats with no trouble. I don't know how strong thei are attached to the conservative but i beleive the conservative doesn't have to fear losing them unless the liberal became more popular then the vote will be divided in 3. However in the rest of quebec, after the election the conservative got a little bit of support but they lost it because the conservative ideology keeps them from voting or just supporting conservative and this is especially true in Montreal. I think this is where harper's conservative government failed. Since we know his ideology will never spread accross the whole canada, he doesn't have to change his policy but one thing he can make is try not to talk about things like war in lebanon at the tv. He can support it but he doesn't have to talk about it because it will damage im politically.

Lol, isn't it the americans that started dealing with Saddam... Thats the problem, superpowers keep doing bussiness with dictators and when they can't, they get rid of em and place another dictator in place... I think it is due to the lack of power and fund of the UN to intervene around the world... After all, getting rid of Dictators should be the UN jobs. I started reading a book about the genocide in rwanda... Romeo Dallaire talks about how UN works.. when he was in rwanda, he didn't get enough funding to have paper for his FAX... in his workplace he had no furniture... no chair... he and his team had to write lying down on the floor. he had no safe place to put his secrets files. Lack of firepower, not enough vehicles .His recomandation where ignored, his reports where rewritten to hide bad news to the media and keep the UN from intervening more and etc...

The medias certainly commented the war differently. I watch the news in french, i hear after an attack :57 civils died including 29 childrens, Then i switch to CNN and i hear an attack in lebanon killed a few civilians. Its always like that though, like the war in iraq, the americans agree but as soon as they start to understand the conflict and what is behind, they disagree....

Beryl Wajsman, the guy from the gomery commission, the one that have a Che Guevara poster in his office

I think Barbara Kay have an issue with tolerance. And i found out that often, ppl that are badly into dogmatism imagine themself an ennemi wich in reality does not exist, often they try to regroup certain class of people or nations and attak them and this is what she did. She used the israelian conflict to attack her imaginary ennemi that she regrouped as "quebec" as an entity and on that point i totally agree wih pratte, we have to call what she write: "prejudices". You can't call a nation anti-semite... Certainly not quebec... Quebec is problably the place where the diversity of opinion attained epic proportion. You have the "X", neo-liberal that are problably econnomically more conservative than any albertan conservative. You have the "lucide"(center-right) wich im part of, the social democrat(center-left) and the "solidaire"(left) and the people in between(center). If you go to the Cegep, you are assured to find communists, anarchist and capitalist of all kind. I beleive its almost impossible to find something that bind evry quebecker... Is there any other place in the world ppl would make a referendum on a critical issue and it would end up with a 1% margin !! it would be hard to find... I find it ridiculous to regroup all those people and claim they are anti-semite as a group... but hey, isnt it what dogmatism do to people ? Actually my theory is also highly linked with the Godwin's Law. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Lol, its funny how fast someone that doesn't beleive that yet another violent war will resolve anything in middle east or just disagree with israel become sudently "anti-israelians". Does it means if someone support Israel he is automatically anti-arab ?

i feel just like you do

I think it was enough to slow down the momentum, i don't know if it can give it to another party though. Its too soon to know how it will affect him in the future. Even with that mistake, i think its clear he has very good analysts that tell him exactly what is the temperature in quebec, i wouldn't be surprised if he react if things get ugly in the weeks to come. However, I am very far from a liberal supporter but i have to say that Ignatieff looks like an excellent choice for them. I wouldn't be surprised if we get another minority government however its too soon to tell.

The funiest thing is that lebanon is problably the most normal, peacefull and sane country in this regions, i know it doesnt mean much over there. The problem is war will never solve anything over there, because war = povrety and anger. Anger and povrety = religion,religion = war x 2. Too bad we do not have an international organisationable to solve the political conflict and separate the israelians from the arabs, and therefore assure peace wich will bring wealth wich will bring peace and will make religions obsolete...

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20060727...19/CPACTUALITES Thats what i thought, it was a political mistake :/ now they can forget about a majority government soon but thats not the worst, the worst is they had the momentum why risk it when you have a minority government ?, they should have played safe.