kactus

I don't see Israel as a democracy at all. It is a state with complex and secretative military machine that feeds from foreign aids it receives...it shows a distorted image to the rest of the world as "democracy" with selective policies dictating how it should be run and governed. More like those religious zealots it is run by a bunch of nutjobs.

Spare me the croccodile tears....Israel's government is not exactly virgin mary like you and your the rest of you lot like to portray..... .....and why would you care about Iran's human rights!?!?. Enquiring minds like to know..... On second thought....

Yes seriously..... Remembered you lot shouting and moaning from far far away when Ahmadinejhad was the president of Iran and "allegedly" said the same thing. Was the Israel wiped out of the map by those overzealous leaders back then? Noooo. Give it up DOP....give it up.... And ofcourse when you have another overzealous like BIBI who constantly threatens Iran by provocative speeches in front of AIPAC and UN assembley you and the silent majority of our jewish friends on this forum tacitly approve them.... Terrorist activities by your beloved BIBI against another state: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mostafa_Ahmadi-Roshan http://m.huffpost.com/us/news/iran-nuclear-scientist-killed https://www.rt.com/news/iran-obama-assassination-scientists-443/ http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/just-who-has-been-killing-irans-nuclear-scientists-8861232.html http://m.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2014/0717/Covert-war-against-Iran-s-nuclear-scientists-a-widow-remembers Ofcourse people like you with some affiliations to the policies of the israeli government are so blinded with your hatred and biased views that you view all the policies of israeli government as 'self defence' and play the 'victim card' as usual. What is good for gander is good for goose! Talk about hypocrisy....

Errm no. To say that CIA had a rather limited role is disingenous. Mossadegh was removed by coup d'etat orchestrated by CIA and MI6. One version of the story that everyone wants to hear is the fear that the root of communism was ripe in Iran back then and was falling into the hands of USSR. One major factor that gets neglected here is that Mossadegh wanted to nationalise oil and that pissed off oil companies like BP who had great stakes....

That is a sweeping generalisation and you don't know that. You are just assuming how the palestinians will behave in the absence of israeli security forces.... Same way that rue doesn't want jews to be judged you are doing the same to palestinians treating them like sub human....

...And the above, in its frenzied condemnation approaching lack of knowledge and history of that country shows yet again that not much can be expected from Iranian haters on this forum... Abstract from The Guardian "Iran's Jews have given the country a loyalty pledge in the face of cash offers aimed at encouraging them to move to Israel, the arch-enemy of its Islamic rulers. "The incentives — ranging from £5,000 a person to £30,000 for families — were offered from a special fund established by wealthy expatriate Jews in an effort to prompt a mass migration to Israel from among Iran's 25,000-strong Jewish community. The offers were made with Israel's official blessing and were additional to the usual state packages it provides to Jews emigrating from the diaspora." "The identity of Iranian Jews is not tradeable for any amount of money," the society said in a statement. "Iranian Jews are among the most ancient Iranians. Iran's Jews love their Iranian identity and their culture, so threats and this immature political enticement will not achieve their aim of wiping out the identity of Iranian Jews." The Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv reported that the incentives had been doubled after earlier offers of £2,500 a head failed to attract any Iranian Jews to leave for Israel." Full article: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jul/12/israel.iran Oh yes those "evil Eyeranian jews" are running scared from their country and have no loyalty to their country and their situation is much worse compared to Palestinians who are literally 'robbed' from their land. I get that...

Bill has a good point in this video. They all are bunch of hypocrites: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/03/04/maher-asks-gods-of-irony-to-have-republicans-hurt-by-environment-so-theyll-stop-denying-climate-change/

There is a wind of change or hope for Iran's election as the Economist this week seems to suggest. People's voice is being heard by hard-line conservatives: Excerpt: "The situation with the new Council of Experts is equally murky, but crucial. It will hold office until 2024. Since Mr Khamenei is 76, it may well have to choose his successor as Supreme Leader. It, too, has shifted in a more moderate direction, which could presage a battle of critical importance to Iran’s future if the time should come for it to perform its task." Full article: http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21693937-boost-reform-long-way-still-go-mr-rohaniu2019s-complicated

And what do you suggest we do? Bomb. bomb Iran? lol We have heard all your moans and complaints about Iranians...I don't think you care much about human rights there as much as you care about how dangerous nuclear Iran is for Israel. Now that issue is resolved you still continue with your anti Iranian rhetorics.

I am baffled... When does one become anti Israeli and when does one become anti semite??? On another note Rue, it doesn't matter to me if you are jewish or non jewish but reality is by giving an option about such matters as IDF excessive force in Gaza your opinions will of course become biased, partisan towards the Israeli stance on this issue. I am sure if we had a palestinian on this forum then we will also get a different perspective. But probably then they will become subject to attack and abuse...

Interesting article for our fellow americans.... Excerpts: Another step closer to the White House for Donald Trump, another loud call to move to Canada from the rational half of our friends South of the Border. Following Drumpf‘s Super Tuesday onslaught yesterday, many Americans are showing interest in our immigration policy. Full article: http://notable.ca/google-searches-for-moving-to-canada-rose-more-than-1000-after-super-tuesday-results/

That is because this thread is about Israel and its attrocities. If you want to bring up world war two bombings of Germans then I am sure you can post it in relevant thread but it is not related to this topic. I find it quite strange that everytime the cruelties of israelis is mentioned here there is a tendency to draw a compaison with other countries. It is like saying the reason israel is bombing the hell out of palestinians is because muslims in other countries not behaving they should therefore we can justify our actions...

And how is your post meant to add to the topic other than just launching personal attacks on other members....funny how you like to talk about judgement of character. The irony of it... There is a certain truth in that some barbaric acts of the israeli forces in the "colonized territories" is nothing short of war crimes. Unless one is deluded to think otherwise...

You are missing the point.... This is not a popularity contest to cherry pick what I wrote to suit your argument and by default make a comparison to Israel..... The point is about the achievements of Iranians around the globe including the US and indeed Canada and elsewhere instead of prejudices and stigma attached. As for Iranian/ Canadians there are a couple of good sources I found which gives a bit more context to what I posted earlier.... "Canada has one of the largest and most successful Iranian immigrant communities in the world, with an estimated 85,000 living in the country, according to the nation's 2003 census." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4575749.stm "Canada remains among the most popular destinations for Iranians seeking to emigrate, and Iranian immigrants to Canada are the fifth most numerous of any nationality" http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/canada-v-iranian-community-in-canada

I know you have experience about Iran after visiting the country. Here are some achievements of those by those evil camel rider Eyeranian terrorists (sarcasm mode) in US... Iranian-Americans Have Reached Highest Echelons Of Tech according forbeshttp://www.forbes.com/sites/elizabethmacbride/2015/12/20/100-influential-iranian-americans-in-silicon-valley-and-beyond/#2ba169f14e52 This is just in US alone..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iranian_Americans -The top scientists within NASA and female astronaut is Iranian: Ms. Anoushe Ansari Her previous business accomplishments include serving as co-founder and CEO of Telecom Technologies, Inc. (TTI). The Ansari family is also the title sponsor of the Ansari X Prize. On September 18, 2006, a few days after her 40th birthday, she became the first Iranian woman in space.[4] Ansari was the fourth overall self-funded space traveler, and the first self-funded woman to fly to the International Space Station. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anousheh_Ansari -Top executives in Google are Iranians: Mr. Salar Kamangar: On October 29, 2010, it was announced that Salar "SK" Kamangar, who was in charge of day-to-day activities, would replace Chad Hurley as CEO of YouTube.[5][6] He was replaced as CEO of YouTube on February 5, 2014. His successor at YouTube is Susan Wojcicki.[7] Prior to that, Kamangar created the company's first business plan and was responsible for its legal and finance functions.[citation needed] From there, he became a founding member of Google's product team,[citation needed] where he worked on consumer projects including the acquisition of DejaNews and the subsequent launch of Google Groups. Before taking over responsibilities of Head of YouTube, he was Vice President of Google's Web Applications.[citation needed] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salar_Kamangar Mr Omid Kordestani: Omid R. Kordestani (Persian: امید کردستانی‎‎) is an Iranian-American businessman who has been the Executive Chairman at Twitter since October 2015. He was previously a Senior Vice President, the Chief Business Officer, and a special advisor to the CEO and founders at Google during July 2014 to October 2015[5] and was Non-executive Director at Vodafone from March 2013 to October 2014.[6][7] Kordestani had also previously been at Google from May 1999 to April 2009, reaching the position of Senior Vice President for Worldwide Sales and Field Operations.[8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omid_Kordestani Top mathematician in US is Iranian: Maryam Mirzakhani In 2014, Mirzakhani became both the first woman and the first Iranian honored with the Fields Medal, the most prestigious award in mathematics.[8][9][10][11][12][13] The award committee cited her work in understanding the symmetry of curved surfaces. Her research topics include Teichmüller theory, hyperbolic geometry, ergodic theory, and symplectic geometry.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryam_Mirzakhani -The Ebay (good friend of Paypal) is invented by an Iranian -Majid Shariari (top scientist in Iran was assassinated by Israeli terrorists Time magazine ran an article questioning whether this action was perpetrated by Mossad (Israeli's external intelligence service).[10] According to The Daily Telegraph (UK), Israel allegedly planned to conduct covert operations against Iran,[14] including assassinations.[15] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majid_Shahriari Ironically, the same people who scream about terrorism and assassinations are the very same people who have committed these acts against another state. Namely Israel that has done it against Iran. The level of hypocrisy here sucks. This list is endless as there are many Iranian scholars that is beyond the scope of this forum.

Do you ever read the post on guard on thee put up here!? He is talking about Iran not Israel!!! He didn't claim his opinion is superior to others...That's your assertion and you are falsifying statements....You are a troll and consistently do this to provoke others and go off topic.....

That's rich coming from you. Lol I read what I write. Do you have eyes and ears to watch the videos? Maybe i am asking for too much....All the terrorist actvities and assasinations started from zionist like this: The Irgun (Hebrew: אִרְגּוּן; full title: הָאִרְגּוּן הַצְּבָאִי הַלְּאֻמִּי בְאֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל Hā-ʾIrgun Ha-Tzvaʾī Ha-Leūmī b-Ērētz Yiśrāʾ

This video link pretty much wraps up why is key to the middle east peace process... Good to see there are some prominient Americacans who speak against the incompetent government of Netanyahu.... Ofcourse how s speech for AIPAC is for more donations... The reality is the Netanyahu's speech about Iran being an existential threat to Israel is nothing more than the fear of Iran getting closer to US. Everything he said in his speech is a hog wash... Link: video link

Yes...and there are many evangelical americans as indeed zionists, who refuse to admit the truth and blindly support the apartheid regime in Israel. Obviously for known reasons being either political motivations or fanatic zealots claiming ownership to the land that does not belong to them...as she stated clearly in the video this is not settlements but colonising....and I don't want to hear you like a broken record repeating canada is the same. The homework starts with your beloved land of US of A to take some responsibility for the unconditional supports she provides to the apartheid regime in Israel. Once that is done canada will follow suit....

Thanks for sharing this video. Quite long but insightful. I think there are people like this amercian / jewish lady who have taken the courage and speak the truth... Ironically, it's the amercian evangelicals and zionists she speaks of that are doing more harm to Israel than being her saviour.... I encourage all to watch this video

Amen! Atlast we have someone who speaks of experience. Thank you

Don't flatter yourself and speak on behalf of the world. Fortunately not many nations hold the same view. But hey, if it was your own house being demolished by illegal policies of Bibi you wouldn't be sitting in your armchair typing terrorists... And what is it with these brainwashed hawks and zionists who think they can justify their actions in Palestine and steal land just because of Canada. Looks like you are trying to enforce your ideology down the throats of canadians... Bottom line is this.... wanna get sucked into more wars on behalf of Israel? Go ahead..... But not in my name. I won't give a dime or shekel for Israel. Of course you are entitled to how you spend your tax money on Israel

Not a problem. What I have shared is the tip of the iceberg. There are tons of videos about Iranian people and the perception of foreigners who have met them...I am certain if one has a genuine interest in getting to know Iranian/Canadians they will find out the role they play in a society they live in.

You opened a can or shall we say a 'bucket of worm here'....Do not not be shocked if you come under attack from Rue et al, Argus, Bush_Cheyney2004, DOP and there's always the silent ones watching this forum.... Be warned the Black Night here might call you anti semite

Again refer to the above post... Every time the actions of the Israeli government is scrutinised their supporters tend to divert the attention to else where.... It goes like this: Oh look what is happening in Yemen, look what is happening in Syria etc, etc, etc...The war over there is much worse than the plight of Palestinians bla bla. But hey, it's ok for Israel to steal more land in the meantime. I see this tactic of avoiding the subject matter but it doesn't wash away considering the history of the Israeli government and UN vis a vis occupied territories....