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what? settle down sherlock. i never claimed to be the original writer. how can i when i've already mentioned they're quotes. they are quotes from a nazi and a zionist with a few words replaced to show the similarities in how they propagate and try to justify what they do.

what about this quote: "The responsibility of global Islam for the outbreak and widening of this war has been proven so clearly that it does not need to be talked about any further. The Muslims wanted war, and now they have it. Hamas is receiving a penalty that is certainly hard, but more than deserved. "Every Muslim is our enemy in this historic struggle, regardless of whether he vegetates in a Gaza camp or carries on his parasitic existence in Jerusalem or blows the trumpets of war in Lebanon or Iran. All Muslims by virtue of their birth and their race are part of an international conspiracy against the Jewish state. They want its defeat and annihilation, and do all in their power to bring it about. "The excuse they give for their provocative conduct is always the same: the Palestinians are after all human beings too. We never denied that, just as we never denied the humanity of murders, child rapists, thieves and pimps. Every Palestinian is a decent Palestinian who has found a dumb and ignorant goy who thinks him decent! As if that were a reason to give Palestinians a kind of honorable escort. What nonsense. "The Palestinians have recently found a new trick. They knew the good-natured Jewish humanitarian in us, always ready to shed sentimental tears for the injustice done to them. One suddenly has the impression that the Gazan population consists only of little babies whose childish helplessness might move us, or else fragile old ladies. The Palestinians send out the pitiable. They may confuse some harmless souls for a while, but not us. We know exactly what the situation is. "For their sake alone we must win the war. If we lose it, these harmless-looking Palestinian men would suddenly become raging wolves. They would attack our women and children to carry out revenge. There are enough examples in history. There is no turning back in our battle against the Palestinians — even if we wanted to, which we do not. "If Hamas and the Palestinians appeal to your sentimentality, realize that they are hoping for your forgetfulness, and let them know that you see through them and hold them in contempt. "The Palestinians are responsible for the war. The treatment they receive from us is hardly unjust. They have deserved it all."

what i know and you don't seem to know is that quotes can be translated. like israel has?

which quote is the real quote? the one from this lovely man or from this gentle soul?

"As Germany persists in its military efforts — by ground, air and sea — to protect its citizens from deadly Jewish bullets, and as protests against Germany increase around the world, the success of the abominable Jews' double war crime strategy becomes evident. "People forget the usual rules of morality and law. For example, when a murderer takes a hostage and fires from behind his human shield, and a policeman, in an effort to stop the shooting accidentally kills the hostage, the law of every country holds the hostage taker guilty of murder even though the policeman fired the fatal shot. "The same is true of the law of war. The use of human shields, in the way Jews use the civilian population of their ghetto, is a war crime — as is their firing at German soldiers and Polish civilians. Every human shield that is killed by German self-defense measures is the responsibility of the Jews, but you wouldn't know that from reading the press coverage. "Moreover, the number of civilians killed by Germany is almost always exaggerated. First, it is widely assumed that if a victim is a 'child' or a 'woman,' he or she is necessarily a civilian. The Jews often use 14-, 15-, 16-and 17-year-olds, as well as women, as terrorists. Germany is entitled under international law to treat these children and women as the combatants they have become. "By any objective count, the number of genuinely innocent civilians killed by the Reich in Poland is lower than the collateral deaths caused by any nation in a comparable situation. Jews do everything in their power to provoke Germany into killing as many Jewish civilians as possible, in order to generate condemnation against the Aryan state."

human communication takes many forms, but demonization has its own distinct flavor, and blends in nicely with any historical era. here is an example: “As Israel persists in its military efforts — by ground, air and sea — to protect its citizens from deadly Hamas bullets, and as protests against Israel increase around the world, the success of the abominable Islamic double war crime strategy becomes evident. “People forget the usual rules of morality and law. For example, when a murderer takes a hostage and fires from behind his human shield, and a policeman, in an effort to stop the shooting accidentally kills the hostage, the law of every country holds the hostage taker guilty of murder even though the policeman fired the fatal shot. “The same is true of the law of war. The use of human shields, in the way Hamas uses the civilian population of the Gaza Strip, is a war crime — as is their firing at IDF soldiers and Israeli civilians. Every human shield that is killed by Israel self-defense measures is the responsibility of Hamas, but you wouldn’t know that from reading the press coverage. “Moreover, the number of civilians killed by Israel is almost always exaggerated. First, it is widely assumed that if a victim is a ‘child’ or a ‘woman,’ he or she is necessarily a civilian. Hamas often use 14-, 15-, 16-and 17-year-olds, as well as women, as terrorists. Israel is entitled under international law to treat these children and women as the combatants they have become. “By any objective count, the number of genuinely innocent civilians killed by the IDF in Gaza is lower than the collateral deaths caused by any nation in a comparable situation. Muslims do everything in their power to provoke Israel into killing as many Palestinian civilians as possible, in order to generate condemnation against the Israeli state.”

there goes dancer trying to downplay israel's atrocities. you're no better than the holocaust deniers.

downplaying the deaths of the innocent palestinians only makes you look bad. may i suggest putting down the tribal flag and start showing some compassion towards the people of the world and find it in yourself to hold those who are committing bad things, even if they're from your tribe, responsible. you are the one who brought up 'class' and i played along.

and you were doing so well. i had not seen you use the anti-semitism card in a few days. why are you being a bad person by trying to spread misinformation?

only for the students who have the attention span of a fish: how about israel's recent attacks on gaza which left over 1000 palestinians dead, with over 1/3 of them children, over 5000 injured for life and the open air prison israel had created flattened?

looks like dogonporch's racist views are showing its ugly head. could this imbalance in military power have anything to do with the $3 billion that US taxpayers pay every year to israel to create a more dominant military? i hope you didn't forget to high five dancing man and bushcheney after israel's military dominance over the gazans.

no, i'm curious; why are you using other events around the world to downplay and even stop discussion about israel's atrocities? should we let a man who rapes off the hook because there is another man who is killing?

why do you use other events around the world to excuse israel's atrocities?

perhaps you could point out to where i've been vague so i can make things more clear for you. by not answering the question, it proves that you have an agenda that goes beyond sharing facts and talking about history.

sounds like they've succeeded in shoving down their narratives down your throat.

good thing we don't do things based on your feelings. they ARE canadians.

you didn't answer the question.

i actually don't have a team. i only mentioned team in quotations because it was talked about before in another thread. i'm neither jewish or palestinians. i cheer for justice and peace and i don't set limits on who or how much someone should be criticized.

we're going in circles. do you think grand mufti's response half a century ago is green light for israel to violate international law?

lets pretend that they're similar. you're trying to argue that what israel is doing now is comparable to what canada did in the past. things that canada has admitted to being wrong about. things that canada would not even consider doing now. next thing you'll be telling us that it would be okay for israel to create camps because canada put the japanese in camps. what point? i have yet seen Dancer make any logical and realistic points.

it's not right to blame all of this on the grand mufti. first of all, who knows how things would have turned out if the grand mufti had accepted a few countries (league of nations) deciding that part of their land belongs to someone else. second, avoiding all the other variables involved in the past, like the jewish terrorist groups and blaming all this on the grand mufti, is not correct. third, the biggest problem with your argument is, whatever the grand mufti did in the past, does not justify israel's illegal settlements which continue to grow and an occupation that has left a group of people without human rights.

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okay bushcheney. if you say so.

we've made a lot of irreversible mistakes in the past which cannot be justified.

even though i don't agree with the iraq invasion and the occupation of afghanistan, especially with the way it is being handled, i don't see the occupying forces creating settlements, creating cantons, much like south africa's apartheid state and taking away the human rights of the people. they're also not, deliberately stalling for over 60 years and annexing their land in favour of other people. you see how the comparison is useless? the situation is much different. the best comparison you can make here in recent history is with the former south african apartheid state and you know how that turned out.