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And nobody seems to notice, no one even blinks.

Well there is a lot of bad credit out their right now, I think there will be a lot of defaults coming up which will shrink the money supply causing deflation. Then again if the US government keeps bailing out companies and stimulating the economy, I could see inflation happening.

http://www.debtclock.ca/ A live ticker of the national debt. Not too sure how much we owe in liabilities. But really, what was the logic people used to justify privatizing our national debt. The government is being robbed hundreds of millions of dollars everyday. I know some citizens own Canadian bonds and they may benefit. I don't think the government losing that money is a fair trade off. I like this quote from Andrew Jackson He killed the Second Bank of the United States but he didn't realize that fractional reserve banking was the real problem.

For a while I was thing inflationary depression but I now think it will be a deflationary depression.

Our national debt is 539 Billion dollars. We are paying over 100 million dollars a day in interest. Lots of that interest is going to private banks. Why doesn't the government loan money directly from the Bank of Canada at 0% interest.

Establishing a world government is the same thing as taking over the world. I think those organizations you mentioned, their influence on global policies will increase over time. I don't think the Illuminati still exist but these banks and big corporations have a lot of influence on the policies we follow. The policies usually leave them richer and the rest poorer. I agree. Look at the States, you need to have the backing of the big corporations if you want to be elected as president. No guy running a gas station on some highway stands a chance of getting elected. The corporations choose who will be president. John McCane and Barrack Obama combined had campaigns costs that exceeded one billion dollars. So corporations elect who will be president and the people are left with a tainted democracy. With your definition I would call it a conspiracy, we all are being usurped on a daily basis. Would it be better if I said we live in a constant state of plutonomy.

I do want to call it a conspiracy. When I say conspiracy what comes to mind, what is your definition of a conspiracy.

Lets say a group of very wealthy bankers meet in 1910 on Jekyll Island to draft the Federal Reserve act. This act would give the bankers a direct monopoly over the money supply in America, something America has fought against numerous times. Would you consider that a conspiracy. There is a reason they called it the Federal Reserve even though it is not federal nor does it have reserves, they needed to fool the public. Lets say these international bankers are now trying to centralize power over central banks by creating the Bank of International Settlement, is that a conspiracy or just a cooperation... Is there a reason why monetary policies are some of the best kept secrets in the world. Why is it crazy to suggest that a few very wealthy people may be working together to expand their wealth and power. Threw out history this has gone on, I don't understand why people think this is not even a possibility today.

I don't care what others do, we don't have to copy them. Personally I like the first constitution America had, The Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union Article II - Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.

That is straight from the Bank of Canada Act. http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/B-2/page-5.html#anchorbo-ga:s_17 The Queen does own the bank. We do over over 300 billion in compounded interest, we are being robbed.

The Bank of Canada is owned by the Queen, her institution is directly robbing us of our wealth. Why would we want ties to a monarch that would impose an institution like the Bank of Canada on its people. Get it?

As of 1993 our Federal debt was around 350 billion Dollars, only 37 billion was actually spent on goods and services, the other 300 + billion comes from compounded interest. The Country is being robbed of its wealth. You should really learn the monetary policies of the world, it will change your perspective of things.

I don't think we would need to make any sacrifices. I don't see how things could possibly get worse or why we would try to make a republic system that makes us less equal. I'm going to say this again, the Queen owns the Bank of Canada. Do you not understand the significance of that.

We got time, we really aren't doing anything else right now. And as I just said, the queen owns the Bank of Canada, that isn't a small thing. The BoC controls our currency and our economy.

Well apperently the queen owns the Bank of Canada. http://www.members.shaw.ca/theultimatescam/The%20Bank%20of%20Canada.htm We should lose the Queen and become a republic, not the American way of a republic, they have given the Administrator or Executive far too much power.

Their government is running a 1.6 trillion dollar deficit this year, up from $1.4 trillion last year. They have over 75 trillion in liabilities they will have to pay out in the future. Health care reform will only cost the government more money on top of that. They are fighting endless, growing wars which is pushing their government even deeper into debt. Their government is spending borrowed money right now, eventually they will have to pay the bills. No bank will continuously loan a failing corporation more and more money, if they did they would risk going bankrupt too. Countries can't afford to bailout the states forever, neither can its citizens.

I think George Carlin said it well, "You don't need a formal conspiracy when interests converge. The owners of this country went to the same universities and fraternities, there on the same boards of directors, they belong to the same country clubs, they have like interests, they don't need to call a meeting because they know what is good for them...and they are getting it". The USA is going to collapse one way or another. Either they will admit they are broke and declare bankruptcy or they will continue to bail-out companies and stimulate the economy. I think they will continue to stimulate, this will only push them farther into debt, inflating their currency more which will only make the problem worse. The only person I know who was warning the people of this for years is Ron Paul. The tea party movement started during his campaign for president.

Excellent find. I only read a couple of paragraphs so far but I liked what I read. That all sounds like a conspiracy to me, people manipulating the world for their own gain. As for the Queen, monarchies have always been about the consolidation of power, this hasn't ended, forces are still working to consolidate power. Many of us are just naive and have the mentality, that can't happen to me... It is happening right in front of our eyes.

I blame a little bit of both, I think big banks and organizations like the IMF and World Bank are also responsible. I'm saying that most people over there and this is an assumption, they probably don't need cotton in their everyday life and if they do need it would probably be a small amount. I understand that having jobs creates money for the people, I just think that growing food for the people would benefit more people then just the few workers that are getting paid. Teaching seems like a pretty solid idea to me. I don't think the WHO are Red Cross are really working to solve the problem. Having less people born into poverty does lower the amount of people in poverty but it does not really solve the problem of poverty itself. If we continue the approach they are taking, poverty will still be around for hundreds of years. We have to look into what creates poverty. I don't see it as other people's problems, I see it as being our problem, humanities problem as a whole, I see us as one people. If they believe it is for the common good, which I do believe they do, then who sold them that idea. I hope so, no one deserves to fly in private jet and have huge mansions while there are others living in poverty. As for my concept of the common good, I think the only problems facing us are problems that are common to all of man. Now the question is what problems are common to all of us. We all need food and water, we all need a home to live in, provide us with the necessities of life and I can guarantee we would live in a more peaceful world with a lot less crime. No, the Bank of Canada isn't private but private banks give bank notes out when they give a loan. These bank notes are considered to be as good as dollars then when the loan gets paid back with hard earned money, new money is created. Private banks create money. When you ask how much money does that cost, you don't say "how many fiat currency tokens does that cost". I know currencies are fiat but i still refer to them as money because in todays society they are accepted as money. That is my argument, international bankers control the world by manipulating economies and the economy as a whole.

Physical slavery maybe, economic slavery hasn't. If growing cotton will benefit the people and it is something they want, let them grow it. But even now that cotton isn't used for the people. I understand that, I don't think they all live in hell just because the don't have the comforts of western society, just the ones starving are living in hell. So lets have everyone who wishes to participate in central planning be involved in the central planning. We can have a democracy of ideas, a true democracy. I am a libertarian, I wouldn't force someone to do something against there will. If they don't want help or maybe they don't see it as help, either way I wouldn't force it on them. I don't think they are acting for the common good, if they were they would understand how important liberties are and how destructive wars are. Governments don't make money, in Canada private banks make 90% of the money or currency in circulation. Inflation is a hidden tax on the people. And I think money was a somewhat useful tool up until maybe 30 or 40 years ago. Now that we have the knowledge and technology to relieve humans from much of the labour or jobs we have today, I don't think money is needed anymore. We can't have completely automatized farms right now because that takes jobs away from the people and hurts the economy. Currency is money in todays society, there are no gold backed currencies. The authority vested in the President by paragraph ( of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821(), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of an outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption,' and ( By revoking subparagraphs ( and © of paragraph 2 thereof. He didn't remove the silver standard. No because money isn't created by government, it is created by private banks. From 1867 to 1992, our federal debt was $423 billion. Only $37 billion was actually spent on goods and services, the other $386 billion comes from compounded interest. Look at all that interest we are stuck paying. Wait wait wait, it gets better, how much interest do you think we pay in total everyday, we spend on interest if we combine all the federal and provincial debt, $160 million a day. What could Canada do with $160 million more a day. Got to love compounded interest. If you were loaned $1 from the day Christ was born to now, with regular interest you would owe about $120, with compounded interest you would owe just over 69,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. Yes is do. that sounds like a conspiracy to me, you can say it is more of a conspiracy of ideas but a conspiracy none the less.

We make them grow cotton for corporations which destroys the soil, instead of growing food for the people. As for what they grow, I really don't care what they grow. I would assume they would grow food that is common in their area. I'm not trying to tell people how they should live, I am throwing out ideas that aren't perfect nor are they set in stone. I just don't want the suffering to go on anymore and I'm looking for solutions to solve the problems. That is true, force doesn't work, all we can do is set a good example and if they like it they would emulate us. I never advocated force. We try to shape how people live their lives now by force. We war to spread freedom and democracy and we ban people from using drugs because people find it morally wrong. So why don't we, because of money, it is cheaper not too. Just one of the reasons why I do not support this monetary based economy that we use. Humans may have conquered the planet but money has conquered humans. I understand money and I do understand what you are saying, I just don't like money, I think it holds us back from achieving our true potential. He signed executive order 11110 on June 4th, 1963, which gave the treasuring the power to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury. He issued $4 billion of this debt free, interest free money which allowed the country to conduct its business without having to go threw the private Federal Reserve system. The Federal Reserve creates money out of debt and charges interest on it. Debt is slavery. "Once a nation parts with the control of its currency and credit, it matters not who makes the nations laws. Usury, once in control, will wreck any nation. Until the control of the issue of currency and credit is restored to government and recognized as its most sacred responsibility, all talk of the sovereignty of parliament and of democracy is idle and futile".- William Lyon Mackenzie King, 10th prime minister of Canada. The privilege of creating and issuing money is not only the supreme prerogative of Government, but it is the Government's greatest creative opportunity. The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principles the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity.- Abraham Lincoln, 16th President of America Whosoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce.... And when you realize the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate- James Garfield, 20th President of America There is a conspiracy.

By near future do you mean now. Iraq war is over oil and the Afghanistan war is over Lithium,an estimated $1 trillion deposit of lithium was found in Afghanistan. We do need a new form of an economy, have you looked into a resource based economy?

lol, successful. In my race there is no first or last. Having a lot of Money does not mean you are a success in life.

That isn't completely true, Tesla, Galileo, Goddard, Einstein, and Edison were more concerned with solving problems and improving processes then mere financial gain. It is this monetary based economy that is the true problem. The thing is most people not only think that it is fair and necessary but they will fight to defend. This monetary based economy concentrates wealth and power into few hands while enslaving and eliminating the liberties of the rest.

No, I am saying we go to places like Africa or wherever there is food shortage, we take sample of the soils around and see what foods would be best grown there. We educate the people so they can be self sufficient. No dependency, just helping each other out. No, but we should be making products with recycling in mind so we reduce the amount of garbage we create. No it isn't, it is a more logical approach in maintaining a sustainable society then the way we go abouts it now. As for "I want to do whatever I want", that is called freedom. It would not become valueless, well maybe if you mean in terms of money, but you would still be left with the product, as for people wasting it, yet again education is the answer to that. What I want is no demand...what? Eventually we can have technology that maintains technology. Fixing broken machinery is a technical job like every other job. I understand why we use money and how we came to start using money. What I am saying is we will never solve poverty or any other true corruptions in society with a monetary based economy. Our money right now isn't honest money and that is the conspiracy. Central banks can manipulate economies threw raising and lowering interest rates. America knew the dangers of these banks that is why they abolished a few central banks that were put into place prior to The Federal Reserve. This is happening now... This is the President that signed the Federal Reserve Act. The only president who tried to put the Federal Reserve out of business was John F. Kennedy...