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I say let them all go intot the first stages of bankrupcy so they can force the Unions to cut slaries, get rid of the job bank, hold pension pay-outs until a worker is 60 not just 25 years worked (my buddy retired at 47 and collects his full GM pension now plus has a new job.) Then do a top down reform cutting many managment positions, and trim the fat out of the company so it will be profitable like all the Japanese auto makers that have Auto factories in Canada and the USA.

Come on, even I know the answers to these and I am the least religious person you will meet. Romans 1 is the answer about the gays not doing what is right. And in the 10 Commandments there is "Thou shall not kill" , Christians, Jews, Muslims and many non-religious people believe and hold firmly to the fact life begins at conception since the cells begin taking on their own form assisted by the mother's body but still independant in nature thus to abort is KILLING a human life. I love how so many "Save the whale, seals, trees, enviroment" people are also the first to choose Pro-choice. Is a whale, tree, seal or even the enviroment more important than a child??? How hypocritical of them. I think any of the Christians in the form here will tell you to take all of your quotes in context and also quote the bible in context too not twisting small parts of the bible without taking the whole of the paragraph or chapter in context.

"How do we do this you ask? Simple, allow individuals to deduct interest payments from their major investment, their own homes. This will spur the housing industry and provide personal tax reductions which in turn will allow individual consumers to use those additional funds to purchase other consumer goods. Create a made in Canada policy that eliminates GST from goods produced and purchased in Canada. Provide tax incentives for the purchase of all green technology produced in Canada." Great ideas, I would also add a few: 1) Give tax breaks to companies that on their own choose to put in place MAJOR enviromental safety practices and protection systems. 2) Tax breaks to companies that are doing well that continue to hire new employees and invent/patent new creative products that will help the world enviromentally, health, and to change 3rd world countries to be able to sustain themselves. (IE: a device that turns infertile soil fertile and helps plants grow with less water in countries like Ethiopia.) 3) Cut the power of the unions to control companies and force them to waste money on burdensome pensions, benefits that go to far. 4) Some how transfer the aboriginal people from a burden on Canadian society by not working and still collecting a pay check in the form of status indian pay to normal productive Canadian citizens that are fuilly integrated into the country, respected by their fellow Canadians for their input and ideas. (I know not all Aboriginal Canadians are bad unfortunately a majority are.) Settle the land claims, pay for all to goto school for 4 years and cut off the checks from the government. Sorry I do not get free hand outs from the government and I was born here, my family was on the FIRST French settlement boat to Canada so one of the oldest in Canada that is not Aboriginal so why do I not get a free hand out?? (I don't want one either!) 5) Equal representation across the country in Federal Parliament for every area based upon a mix of revenue in tax dollars and population so no one province or territory can have a tilted representation to manipulate national elections. 6) Crack down on crime, and drugs as it causes a major downward spiral for any society that allows it to go unmanaged. (This may include bringing back the unpopular CAPITAL PUNISHMENT to help deter people from them.) 7) Mandate parents are fully responsible for the actions of their kids until the kids are the age of legal adulthood (18 across the country I believe) so the parent swill place boundries and begin to care about what their kids are doing again thus bringing back the parental responsibilty or consequences for raising a juvenile delinquent. 8) Cut the political 1 term so you get a pension for life and make it based on the time you served pays a certain amount. 9) Get rid of the country clubs we have for prisons and make the prisoners learn how to work and be productive members of society and earn the priviledges they now just expect as benefits of being in prison. Do nothing but lift weights, watch TV and play basketball or volleyball all day, get free room and board guaranteed. THAT IS WRONG, why should the hard working tax payers of this country have to pay for their laziness and crappy life choices. Okay I could go on for another few pages but I will let others contribute some ideas too.

How about both Canadian and US Govt. get smart, forcefully remove the union in the Auto sector, abolish the guaranteed pension after 25years work and do a minor wage cut.(They will have more money as they are not paying into the union.) I have a buddy that started to work at GM when he was 19 years old fresh out of high school no training. 7 years ago when he turned 44 he took early retirement and has a 60% of his best 5 years of pay checks so earns like 55K /yr on pension. Then took 2 years off and then applied at Ford, because of his years of experience and all the management couses GM paid for through union pushing, he got a cushy management job. He was just about 47 when hired, he can work until 65 and get a 41% pension when he retires from there. He will make more in a year retired than most people living in Canada that have a Bachelor or Masters degree and 10-15 years on the job IN HIS RETIREMENT DOING NOTHING!!!! Now that is wrong. I say make the pensions not kick in until any worker has quit work and hit the ripe age of at LEAST 60yrs old. I don't give a crap if you retire at 45-50 yrs old. The union forces the auto companies to shove millions into the pension fund that the union manages (or let us be clear MIS-MANAGES) and then the pension costs are pushed on to the car consumers and the North American companies have to cut corners to compete in the auto market because the Asian, Japanese and European auto manufacturers would never put up with that type of crap. SAVE THE USA and Canada, abolish union control of companies. Let workers freely choose if they want to work non-union without fear of heavy handed reprisial from some union thug. Or turn the unions into what they used to be just a lobby force to make sure businesses treat employees fairly but do not give them full control to abuse the companies economic situation. And YES I would shut my company down overnight if the union tried to get in. I've done it before and I would do it again!!! But I pay my employees well and they tell the union people that come knocking to recruit to shove it where the sun doesn't shine because they know they would lose out not gain.

If Iggy steps up to the bed and hops in with the NDP and BQ I hope the rest of Canada sees it for what it is: a sell out of party beliefs just to have a shot at being PM for a period of time but not for the good of the democratic system or the people of Canada. Politcial Party whoring for a chance to claim the PM hat.

I am just wanting a demographic of the parties we all vote for. Is it 28% Liberal voters here, 37% CPC, 35% NDP or what. Please be honest! You all know I am X-Liberal and since Chretien the Liberals will never see another vote from me again. Now I am 100% Conservative supporter. If you do not want to say still vote in the poll please. This is not for any stereotyping or negative comments, keep answers short, honest and non-attacking. Thank you everyone for participating. Those that put bogus answers or post tons of negative crap will have to spend 1 week with George W. Bush, (SCARY!!!) alone in a 10ft X 10ft room (even SCARIER!!!) and you are restrained so you cannot in anyway harm or stop him from talking.

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I read it, does it not say the wishes of the people are to be heard???? YES, the election made a clear statement, no NDP, no Liberal and NO BQ government! Joining them all together is just a way to be anarchist and cause a governmental mutiny or coo de ta!

The GG should listen to the wishes of the voters of this country that was spoken so clearly only a few weeks ago and disapline the attempt at a coalition government.

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So did anyone here in this forum get turned awaaay from voting I aaaask??? I own my own businesses (pural), yes I have tons of staff but I was very busy that daaaay and yet at 4PM I left work eaaaarly (even though my main secretary was livid I had not signed a bunch of papers and you do not want to make Joyce mad she can kill a horse with her stare when she is maaaad.) becuse I was coming bck into the office in the evening so I went to my poll (1 hour away from office) then home for a quick dinner and back to the office. It is a priviledge to be able to vote in this country and too mny people do not tke tht priviledge seriously. Maybe if there was monitary reprocussions for not voting then maybe people would get it. Sorry aaaaaaaaaaaabout the aaa problem I need to get the IT department to chnge my keyboaaaaard aaaas it is driving me mad trying to keep fixing the double, or more or no aaa's at aaall. I will caaall them right now. Sorry.

Bill Bennett and Bill Jr were very hard line stance on crime and regulaaaarly went aginst the federal court system for being to easy on crime. But since it is all relly controlled by Ottawa we will hve to see what Hrper does to tighten the noose on crime in this country. I say bring back capital punishment for clearly guilty parties. I bet that would slow crime down!!!

Send them on their way but tke ll the government vehicles and equipment and then we get 1 mile buffer zone off of the St.Laurence as tht is Caaanadin soil and if they do not like tht they can move to Quebec proper. They hand them a $100 bill as parting gift. I would not be sad to see them go (and rememeber I have mentioned I am French Candian in heritage!)

nO NOT rude just someone who can red between the lines and is sick and tired of minority group people getting all the attention and action in this country. It is time the greater amount of the population (the 44% of the people that ll voted for the sme Man/party) get what they wnt for a chnge in this coountry. That is what a democrcy is right? The largest group tht bands together gets to call the shots, whether it is a majority or not. Now if the BQ, NDP and the remains of the Liberals want to band together as one group under one name/coalition then they can cll the shots but until then it is the 44% and the Conservatives so STOP YOUR BITCHING and let our leader lead!

Yep that is right, REMEMBER WE HAVE A LIBERAL GOVERNMENT OUT HERE! If we still had the Socil Credit party around the criminls would really get punished. But it could be worse, we could get another NDP government, ewwww the thought sends shivers down my back!!

Maybe someone with integrity and a tiny shred of morals for a change. Get a good leader and one that demands Chretien be charged for the scandals he took part in then maybe I would support the party again.

TO BC CHICK: After reading through this whole thread here is what I hve concluded: You are bitter Liberal supporter mad that Dion is having to step down and tht the mass majority of Canadians think he is a serious wingnut. You sound tons like a person on welfare in BC. You also sound like a same-sex partner or someone that hs same-sex partner as a family member. You are a minority and I am sick of this country playing favoritism to all the minorities and screwing around the greater percentage of the population. Just because minority screms the loudest does not mean the government should alwys give them thier wishes! I could be wrong on your sexual preferance or the welfare bit and I apologize if I am but the first part I AM SURE OF!! Just because Dion sucks as leder does not men Harper does or that he needs to quit too.

I have better ideaaa force the BQ to run a federal party campaign and they must run candidates nationwide or they lose party status, all votes for the BQ are made NULL nd Void then the 2nd place prty cndidte is mde the winner. You do not see any other province running a single province party like Quebec does. It is just BS Canada has put up with it so long.

Liberal plan: (this must be read in cheesy Dion accent and sound nervous) Point 1 of de Liberal Economic plan; run around panicking Point 2: check that you have everyone else panicking and they are running around chaotically too Point 3: Quick go run and hide somewhere until it blows over Point 4: If it does not blow over quickly send out a press relese it was all Stephan Hrper's fault Point 5: Resign and let someone else deal with dis crap, I'm just a University Professor why am I putting myself through this??

bc chick this thread is as close to the dumbest so far in this forum. He gained more seats and exposed Dion as the incompetant leader he is. I think he should get a medal!!!

Let me ADD for the CONSERVATIVES!!! She sure wasn't so mad about the whole deal with Chuck if she is running Conservative. (Actually I know for a fact personally she isn't mad and is glad to be running Conservative under Harper.)

Oh my god, where do you think e live people SOMALIA???? There has not been any case of voter cheating, fraud, of any significance (except the Liberals in BC in the last federal election may I remind you!! Dead people voting!) Canadians as a whole are not that type of people, HELL only 56% of us take the damn time to get off our butts to bother to vote. So to start some new method of voting so everyone can be checked up on and the government can know ho anyone votes, NEVER!! It is called a democratic secret ballot for a reason. Can you imagine a corrupt government getting ahold of who voted what way. Can you say extra tax audits, miraculously you do not qualify for that government program or in the other view tax windfalls or government contracts/jobs handed out to those that should not even qualify. No a secret hidden vote it should stay. Argue all you want but your arguement sounds too much like Big Brother to me and I NEVER put on a tinfoil beanie!!! (I am allergic to them LOL)

This is because the people of Quebec are the highest offenders of the law in this country. Should not something be done about this, not hide behind a provincial based party disguised as a national party. I say it is time to cleanup Quebec. The law should be changed that if a party does not run candidates in at least 2 maybe 3 of the provinces they should be removed form the ballot. The BQ are an embarrassment to this country. They have no interest in the rest of the country just thier in thier little sandbox and they pee in everyone else's and say that everyone else's sandbox stinks to them. I say write laws to curb the BQ!!