Moonbox

They're words. You're going hysterical over words and hyperbole, when that's generally all you yourself have to offer the debate. When are we going to hold people accountable for calling Trudeau or his supporters Fascists? ? Your take = hysterics and hyperbole unworthy of much attention. The adults will talk and you can rant incoherently in the background all you like.

Correction - Ukraine was forced to become part of the Soviet Union and was brutally repressed, subsequently starved in the millions under Stalin, and then immediately chose to break off from Russia when the USSR collapsed. Which part of this signals or suggests Ukraine would want to be part of Russia, especially considering they're fighting tooth and nail to avoid exactly that?

I read this article and agreed with most of it, but it's interesting you're quoting the evil MSM here because they never say anything anti-Trudeau and always rush to his defense...rrrr right?

Okay Mr. Hysterical. As usual, we can always count on you for level-headed and totally-not-emotional contributions to the debate. ?

You clearly don't. Any time I've tried to engage you on it, you've just tossed limp insults. Ukraine hasn't been "part of Russia" for 8-900 years and since then has mostly fought them for their independence. ?

Cool testimonial. It's utterly useless for this debate, but cool. My biggest client is a Russian expat who fled in the early 2000's because Putin had several of her friends arrested. Want to know what she has to say? Doubt it. The Donbas is heavily Russian. Nobody disputes that. So is Crimea. That's what happens when the Soviet Union deported the natives and/or starved them out under Stalin. This does not, however, have any bearing on the legitimacy of farcical referendums held under armed occupation where there was no option to stay in Ukraine.

Where? There was joint research being done on bovine diseases or something from what I recall. Come on. In what world are we to expect a referendum held under armed occupation without outside observers where none of the options were "remain as part of Ukraine" was even remotely legitimate? I sincerely believe even you know these were a farce. I refuse to believe you're that silly.

Is that what he said - that there was nothing wrong with the economy? Or did he dismiss your goofy theories about central banking and how the economy actually operates in the real world? Just curious.

Speaking of nuance, you show none. You hysterically exaggerate both the power the PM wields as well as the scale and consequences of the Emergency Act overreach/abuse. By your telling, we're just a step away from Trudeau making "undesirables" like Tamara Lich and Pat King disappear (like in China or Russia) but a reasonable person knows this isn't the case.

Nope just his good buddy Trump!

or become president of the United States!

No you don't. You offer exaggerated hyperbole and repeat vague complaints ad nauseum. The Emergency Act was a mistake and an overreach but that doesn't signal an end to democracy and you screaming into your pillow over it doesn't change anything.

? Which would be great...if you followed any of the above.

There are many conclusions that reasonable people can make. This isn't one of them. ?

The only people who pumped the word out of proportion were the butthurt whiners complaining about it. Though the Emergency Act was (IMO) clear and obvious government overreach, calling the protestors extremists was not the rationale for removing them. The fact that the Ambassador Bridge got closed and that downtown Ottawa grinded to a halt for 3 weeks was why they were removed. The fact that the term hurt your poor feelings is nobody's problem but yours ?. The term was apt. Get over it.

Putin doesn't have much choice in the matter. He's trying to play superpower with an economy smaller than Canada's and an army that isn't interested in fighting. The way his critics tend to disappear, fall out of balconies, get poisoned or shot is the first indication. The next is how badly he miscalculated on the invasion. I think even he believed that the Ukrainians would welcome the Russian army, but the shitty decision making process of this regime were outlined in the OP. Of course you'd use this limp noodle of a coping device. No matter the subject, no matter the debate, "REEee the MSM!" is your fallback for everything. ?

That's an interesting take. For people so concerned about wokeness and word-policing, it's pretty funny how you'd get your panties all twisted over this one highly subjective word. ?

I'm just pointing out what you've said in the past. You're the one who's clearly lying, because you say don't care who wins but then you've already explicitly told us: No amount of "context" explains away this. If you didn't care about lies then you wouldn't be spending all of your energy on this thread criticizing everyone but Putin. ?

What makes them extremists are their views. The folk who convinced themselves COVID was a deep fake, that we have a fascist government, that Sandy Hook was a hoax - pick your poison. We're talking the absurd conspiracy clown parade. You don't have to burn a building down to be an extremist.

but if you actually meant that, you'd have to explain why you said this: ? From everything you've said, all you seem to care about is that Putin gets what he wants. Russians leaving Ukraine would be the best way for the war to end, after all.

You mean: Losing at war ?

If 810 resignations constitutes "military collapse", what would you call +80,000 Russian casualties in Ukraine? ?

Fascism is a far-right ideology by definition, goof. Your relationship with facts and reality is...distant.

Our last aircraft carrier was a wee little baby less than half the size of the ones the US was building at the end of WW2, and we didn't even build it. Though Trudeau was never a huge friend of our military, the gutting of our defense industries started long before he took power.

The European FREMM was offered as a cheaper alternative at $30B (built in Canad) awhile ago, but was rejected. That $30B price tag was almost certainly not going to hold up, just like the CSC hasn't, but it's conceivable it could have at least been noticeably cheaper. The CSC, however, is planned to be a larger and more capable ship. Calling it a frigate at this point is kind of a laugh. It would probably be more apt to call it a small destroyer. The Americans have a lot of different designs for a lot of different roles. If you're talking about their Constellation class, it's a much smaller and much less capable ship than the CSC. There's no question that the Americans can build ships cheaper than us though. They have massive economies of scale and something like a 50% labor cost advantage vs our tiny shipbuilding industry. The American frigates were not suitable for what we were looking for. The whole basis for this expensive boondoggle is the promotion of a domestic shipbuilding industry. Canada has every reason to be competitive in this space, but we just sort of keep outsourcing it. The hope is that changes over time, but I think it's reasonable to have doubts on that.