PoliticalCitizen

Your attempt to insult me certainly denotes you as the latter...

I'm an immigrant and was busy working - you know the dirty immigrant jobs that you complain we stole from Canadians. So I hadn't had time to study Canadian history. To someone like you however, with the name of Mr. Canada you should know all this stuff by heart - what research are you talking about? So the Queen decided we should use ridings? Very democratic, I guess... I guess that's all it means to you... Maybe. But we already have technologies that would allow to GREATLY REDUCE energy consumption. Let's start by closing the coal-burning plants first. Then we can discuss nuclear.

Drivel? That's the best argument your hate-blinded brain can come up with? Fairy tales? Oh, North Americans surely love those... Let's take a look at the most popular ones: FAIRY TALE 1: Bedouins that jumped off of the backs of the camels straight into the cockpits of commercial airliners and landed them into the windows of 2 skyscrapers, which caused them (and another unrelated building) to collapse in a controlled-demolition way. FAIRY TALE 2: An evil Santa Claus exists in the Middle East called Bin Laden. Noone has seen him but everyone believes he lives somewhere between Afghanistan and Pakistan. His evil little elves make bombs that go off every once in a while everywhere in the world. From time to time he records messages so that people won't forget he knows who's been good or bad. FAIRY TALE 3: Evil Saddam prepares weapons of mass destruction to kill us all, starting with Israel. He has NUCLEAR, CHEMICAL and BIOLOGICAL weapons. Clearly he and his whole country should be nuked to form one huge crater. FAIRY TALE 4 (NOT VERY ORIGINAL): Evil IRAN is building NUCLEAR WEAPONS. Let's kill them all. Surely you can't be an idiot, dead wrong or even biased. Let's abolish the UN - it's useless anyway. Bush's, Condy's, McCain's, Palin's and Harper's gut feeling about a certain regime or country should be considered a GOD-GIVEN COMMAND TO ALL DEFENDERS OF DEMOCRACY, FREEDOM, AND... what else was there... oh yeah - AMERICA!

What? You'd never admit that the actions of our military can be described in such a way? Well, they are... obviously not by our media...

You mean the ones that are still alive? Or the 1,200,000 DEAD as a result of the 8-year-long (so far) war?

I couldn't find any western source quoting that number but I think it comprises the number of the people that died as a result of the destroyed infrastructure. You're contradicting yourself. If we're not the world police - why did we bomb Yugoslavia? If we are the world police - who gave us the mandate and why were we not responsible for the tragedies in Rwanda, Darfur and Somalia, all of which could have been prevented using a small fraction of the force used against Yugoslavia? Your attempt to vilify proves the inability of a westerner to even ADMIT their country and its biggest ally may have been wrong. Contrary to NATO's brutal destruction of the whole country's infrastructure and at least 1000 civilians killed directly by the airstrikes Russia very quckly and effectively disabled Georgia's military and gave the 2 regions their chance for independence. The war lasted 1 week (as opposed to 76 days of bombings) and there were less than 100 Georgian civilians dead. So you'd be OK then with the Russian army coming in to help the oppressed natives in Caledonia? What about Afghanistan? That wasn't a mistake?

Did they put you in a straitjacket and tie you to a bed? Even then some people manage to chew their tongue off and choke on it or drown in blood...

What about euthanasia? Could have saved us millions in critical care...

And how many troops were there in Serbia? ZERO !!! Because NATO troops were SCARED to go into Serbia - they would have been killed like never before. But dropping bombs on civilians from high in the sky - why not... I Rwanda the hutus were using machetes - no firearms... they could have been stopped without planes or tanks...

The general attitude of North American population is the problem. You were told so many times that you actually believe you're ENTITLED to attack and destroy other countries. I was hoping this blatant disregard for sovereignty of other nations and supremacy of "national interests" is only prevalent in the good old USA. Oh well... We gotta thank God Harper didn't have a majority in 2003... otherwise Iraq would have been on the bloody list of our war crimes...

The 10,000 is an official number (even Israel knows that) and only includes the victims of the NATO bombings. We killed them. The number of people NATO killed and the amount of distruction it caused is far greater than the number of people killed by the perpetrators of genocide in Yugoslavia. I know you, as most members of this board have been conditioned by the media not to accept the fact that NATO can be wrong. I think it goes back to the Cold War days... Are we the World Police? Are we? Then where the FVCK were we during the butchering of 900,000 people in Rwanda? Where are we in Darfur? How come we haven't policed Somalia whose pirates terrorize international waters? Let's cut the crap... NATO bombing Serbia while both Russia and China were against it was nothing more than a brutal show of force by USA (primarily) and a spit in the face of Slavic nations... so Georgia was just a little payback...

Or bring about a change in the electoral system.

Thank you. Could you also tell me who decided it's the best for Canada and why? Yes, but we don't have to be losers or winners - everyone's vote could have the same (or at least almost same) value. What's wrong with Progressive Conservatives?

You mean - the current system suits you just fine because your party is in a good position.

I said multiple times that a Mixed-Member Proportional system like the one that was proposed in Ontario would probably make most sense, at least as a transition from FPTP to something more democratic.

Liberals got unseated just because people felt like "punishing" them for bad behaviour. Once the general opinion is that the punishment has been carried out they'll return to rule as usual - as a majority.

What do you know about the bombing of Serbia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legitimacy_of...g_of_Yugoslavia China and Russia vetoed the resolution on the UN Security Council, both of which are permanent members of the Security Council and even one veto from a permanent member is enough to quash a resolution. US President Bill Clinton then spearheaded the use of force by NATO against the Milosevic government. The only way I see it is as a crime against humanity: - 10,000 people dead, mostly civilians - Infrastructure of a country completely destroyed (even though the air-defense systems remained intact ) Using your analogy the bombing of Serbia would be equivalent of leveling the whole school with the kids in it because one of them was a bully. Here's the chronology of the 76 days of bombings: http://www.beograd.org.yu/cms/view.php?id=201271 SHAME !!! I hope our country NEVER AGAIN gets involved in these execution-style military campaigns. But then again - once USA's financial backbone is broken (which it almost is already) they'll sit quiet and fester in the pit of a recession / depression, leaving the rest of the world to live in peace (or whatever else the countries want).

I'm sorry to be the one that brings it to you but it may be more than just your IE

That may be true for you. To me fair representation would be a percentage of votes being translated into the same percentage of seats in parliament. Whining is usually counter-productive. I'm more about providing a different angle on an issue so familiar that nobody really considers changing (like monarchy ) Should we all move to these 2 ridings? Are you suggesting segregation? Is that what our current electoral system is all about?

WTF is a riding again? Who's riding where? To collect ballots? Who introduced ridings and WHY? How is it democratic? And just because this ancient "riding" system exists, we're supposed to take it as God-given and pray that our candidate makes it? B-effin-S! The votes of almost a million people cannot be discarded just because the system isn't prepared to handle them. Slavery is history, so will the riding system be...

Correct. But just because we have some representation doesn't make it FAIR that 7% of this country's voters have not seen their will materialized in the parliament.

Time for FACTS: http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/publications_res..._e/page10.shtml Out of the low-income immigrants - 9% rely on social assistance. Out of the low-income non-immigrant Canadians - 22% rely on social assistance. That could be hard for you to swallow but it comes straight from HRSDC.

2 lines, Dancer? WHAT HAPPENED ???

Liberals are Canada Red flag, multi-culturalism, French origin, social programs.... Like it or not, we are more a Liberal country than anything else

More people = More consumers = Stronger economy