Alta4ever

Boy this is misleading, most farmers have been going under even with the modest subsidies that they have received due to the lefts cheap food policy. Taxpayers money isn't used as farmers aren't crown corporations. The left is finally reaping what it sowed, when its comes to cheap food policies and AWG fear mongering policies and the wealth redistrabution scrams that went with it.

It is the same, money distributed from the national party to camaigns to buy media for the candidate.

What citation, if the paperwork doesn't pass the 3rd party auditor, it doesn't go to elections canada until it is fixed. There is no citation needed because this is what is required by elections canada.

Sounds to me that elections Canada is altering its stance on what it will allow from the conservatives but not for any other party.

So tell me why the independent auditors the ones who get the books before elections Canada get them didn't have any proplems with it?

sort of kinda like.......either what was done was similiar or not. Sort of kinda like, sounds sort of kind of like the liberals and the NDP should sort of kind of like have to answer for the the same sort of kind of like activity.

Sounds like your describing a different party. The Tories are fighting that the same electoral laws apply to them as they do to the Liberals and NDP.

So I ask you why it has a court number right on the top?

Apparently......but it is to be expected, from those types ignorance is bliss, and if you try to educate them on the subject they put their fingers in their ears.

Obviously you didn't read the court documents provided by scribblet.

Next we will have jdobbin spouting a proof is a proof is a proof, and saying that this isn't proof because it was posted on the blogging tories.

Wow you really think that? The Price at your pump is set by the wholesale price and transportation costs. The wholesale cost is drived by the futures prices being payed in the stock markets.

Don't bother he/she doesn't understand how fair market value is derived.

YOu have been pretty quick beleive unsubstanciated accusations made by the liberals on past issues like Cadman.

Fine call me a liar but really what do I have to prove to you, lets face it nothing said by any on this board would ever sway your personal beliefs.

Two flaws in your arguement 1 there is no monoply, and two they do not own everything from the drill bit to refineries, I see many office buildings in downtown Calgary that are not shell, mobile, petro canada, and husky

How often does the media acurately report the facts?

I would rather not, whether you beleive me or not.

My First party information seems a lot more credible then your third party

Most of the Oil that comes from Canada is bunker C, not the best for refining.

It is a contributing factor to inflation, but really drives up the cost of gas (or the inflation of gas prices if you will) is simple more people want it hence higher demand, refineries are operating close to capacity, so that equals static supply. So either you move into government rationing and everbody gets a little bit, or those willing to pay more get more. Economics 101.

Way too niave? You seem to lack the basic understanding of how the global economy works, you are niave to think that a cheap energy policy won't bankrupt our country. The global markket would still exist beyond NAfta which is what you are thinking of, global maket is not northa america, it is the whole globe.

When market is said it is ment as global market, since we are ever increasingly more and more tied to the global market. Think outside your local market, think outside the national market, we are in a global economy, if they will pay more in europe our domestic price goes up. Gas prices at the pump are set buy the wholesale price and are influenced by the futures bought and sold in the stock exchanges. When everyone pays the same wholesale price which is set by the makets not the companies, that the price at all the gas stations would be very close to the same? If you don't like the price of fuel maybe you should vote in a government that doesn't at cabon taxes to your fuel. Maybe one should be elected that would reduce the gas taxes, reduce government regulation, one that would encourage the free market economy instead of the statist one that is currently promoted. BTW 10 years ago we were in a different market cycle, and oil was $10-15 a barrell. The economy has changed.

Right....They spend the billions to re-tool plants when they are already in economic hot water. I can just here the president of general motors....Get me encana I want to tell them they're charging to much for oil and people don't want to buy our vehicles. The problem is that the all the green techonlogy that Al gore wants the refineries to use, the added costs are being passed on to the consumer. Not to mention all the bloated salaries that the trade unions demand for consuction of new refineries, of which there has been little to none of in the past 40 years as a result. We haven't hit peak oil either there are huge discoveries being made every day like the one of the coast of Brazil. (thought to have reserves almost as large as Canada's). This isn't the fault of the Oil Companies it is the fault of the feel good policy coming from the Statists, who don't take the time to think about the consequences of their actions. There was a reason for all the bread lines in the USSR and it had something to do with too much centeralized government regulation and control.

We are paying fair maket value. We are paying the same as what others in the market would pay, not more or less. ( At least until taxes are factored in)