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You stand by tyour statements but you are unarmed...merely mumbling and offering not a scintilla of fact. You are like one of those crack pot tin foil conspiracy theorists who offer a theory with out evidence except backed up by the jejune claim that you have some secret knowledge. This despite that, actually, your opinions are false. You say the Peacekeepers halped the slaughter, prove it. do your own homework, I can't help the blind see, they must help themselves, comprende? btw:"Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent " as you so aptly demonstrate. Like I said, do some research.

Clearly you know nothing, period. Try reading about Dallaire experiances and how with so few peacekeepers they were powerless to protect anyone. PS, there is very little guerilla warfare in iraq. 90% of the violence is sectarian terrorism directed against iraqis by iraqis. This would escalate grossly if the coalition left. Maybe that's what you would like then? I am afraid, I know a great deal more then you. In fact, I am certain of it, as I read your postings. Dig deep into Rwandan history, it won't take that much effort, try it. You will be very, very surprised about General Dallaire's "role" in the genocide, and the roll of other countries. BTW: I have read his book. also. and I am still standing by my previous statments "What helped Rwanda be the slaughter it was, was the peacekeepers." "The only thing keeping the guerilla warfare going is the illegal invasion and occupation."

The following is a transcript of the speech given by Malalai Joya, member of the Afghan Parliament, given at the University of Los Angeles on Tuesday April, 10th: another excerpt, it's quite long............. You can read the entire speech, here http://canadiandimension.com/articles/2007/04/16/1050/ it's also archived at numerous other sites. it's clearly not a speech for the 'polyanna' crowd, but, for anyone else, who feels, they are not that way, I find it quite interesting, as I am sure other's will.

Total speculation. Be serious. That is like saying if I puill the poin of a hand grenade and put it in my pocket, blowing my nuts off is merely pure speculation. The only thing stopping iraq from becoming an asian rwanda are coalition troops. Even so, as of today, over 680 Iraqis have been murdered this month be other iraqis....over 5000 this year Clearly, you know nothing of Rwanda. What helped Rwanda be the slaughter it was, was the peacekeepers. The only thing keeping the guerilla warfare going is the illegal invasion and occupation.

Let's list the ways in which this is relevant to the war aim: - - - ????? Can't think of too many. The intent of the war was to depose Saddam. That was fullfilled. The US did not go there to make the Iraqi people feel better. The only reason US troops are still there is because if they leave, havoc will ensue. Is that what you want? LOL, the intent of the war was to grab resources and build military bases, to launch further attacks from it was NOT, to free the people, from the tyranny of Saddam. That's a 'conspiracy theory'

Total speculation. Be serious. That is like saying if I puill the poin of a hand grenade and put it in my pocket, blowing my nuts off is merely pure speculation. The only thing stopping iraq from becoming an asian rwanda are coalition troops. Even so, as of today, over 680 Iraqis have been murdered this month be other iraqis....over 5000 this year Kind of like how people bought the "mushroom cloud" B.S. There is absolutely no certainty that havoc will ensue. They want the Americans out, period. There is absolutely NO certainty havoc will ensue, you are absolutely right!!! The absolute certainty is this , as long as the US is there, havoc will continue. How do we know this to be true and correct, cause it has been all along! go newbie!

my heart goes out to the families, and other's on campus effected by this. very tragic.

You forgot Russia, but, no fear, the US hasn't forgot.

well anything is possible, to be sure, but, I am a 'beginning of the ender' myself. The South American countries, are showing the US it's irrelevance, India, Pakistan, Russia, China,, in the east, same thing. When the US attacked Iraq, without security council approval, IMO, that was a big signal from the world, to the US, we aren't towing your line, then the Us reduced itself, to bribery spying, grovelling, at the feet of the world and suddenly the UN became "irrelevant", rather then the lackey to the US it had always been. keep an eye on the pipeline/oil, it's always been the prize.( hence the sudden "AlQuaeda" appearance in Africa) war on terrorism , the BS distraction.

can I clean that up a bit? Debt, USED WISELY, is a tool to increase your personal wealth. There are other tools, such as employment. DEBT used badly, can lead to what is happening in the US right now, with all the mortgages going BUST. Mortgage holders/lenders/insurer's, etc., etc., Unfortunately too many people use debt badly, don't understand how the banking system really works, don't even understand about credit card charges and I could go on........

This is the most astute comment I've read on this matter after a year of CT/NWO rantings. It is not a BIG SECRET. We had a locally produced program (from university) on this topic over 20 years ago. We know how the damn banking system works. actually and unfortunately, many people do not.

The world is changing figleaf,and the US is trying to keep that change to their benefit. If they attack Iran, they will go it very nearly alone, except for Israel, no one will support them. They grow weaker, and weaker, making them more desperate, watch for the use of nukes, they can;t fight a ground war. IMO, we are watching the death throes of the empire USA.

our kids and American's kids are dying for 'terrorism' LOL!!! we must conform to dumbdowness. I mean it's obvious it's about oil, for varying reasons, or at least it should be obvious. I have noticed as of late the US has somewhat turned on Mashareff, saw some western press calling him a dictator, instead of President, that was interesting! India wants the pipeline, and India NEEDS the pipeline, because the population and the economic power, ever growing is there and in China, Neither country wants the US to control there economies. It will be interesting to follow, how the US reaction play out. Any unusual actions taking place in said countries, You know like how in Iran the US is fomenting terrorism?! Keep your eyes focused.

from Pakistan http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.shtml?171124 New Delhi: The over USD 7 billion Iran-Pakistan-India (IPI) gas pipeline is likely to be built in parts with the three nations deciding to construct segments of the pipeline falling in their territory independently. "Iran will build the pipeline segment in its territory and Pakistan will be responsible for construction of the section falling in its territory. Indian firms will lay the pipeline from the Indo-Pak border to their consumption centers," PTI reported here quoting a top Petroleum Ministry official. India will enter into an agreement with Iran for purchase of gas at its border and responsibility will be fixed on Islamabad for safe passage of the pipeline, uninterrupted supplies and delivery of gas at the Indian border. BUT, the spoiler.... but, if..... The project may be executed separately by the three countries in their own territories to protect it from US sanctions, he said. India will sign a "supply-or-pay" agreement with Iran with a provision on alternative supplies during disruptions. With the three countries separately executing the project in their territories, the project will be protected from US sanctions and even enable American consultants and contractors to participate in portions of the project. where there is a will there is a way.

like the 'war on terror' gotta try to keep control. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...09-2703,00.html oh, hissy fit coming "We believe that Iran is seeking to develop nuclear weapons and anything that will support that endeavour (such as the IPI) is something that we oppose," Mr Bodman said. Yeah sure......like Iraq had wmd's The winds of change are blowing....

It's not "allowed". It has nothing to do with "the empire". Stop lying. it's allowed, it has everything to do with empire, because you deny it, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

Contractors doing whatever the heck they want to do during war time is nothing new. "come to the war for big money, and they operate outside most of the laws that govern American forces." from rampant murdering to prostitution rings. why call them contractors, they are mercenaries. Hired killers. No rules apply to them.

Are you suggesting Koreans would be better off if the north had won? The US suffered nearly 170,000 casualties to see that they didn't. do you see what the article is about? it is about US Korean war policy, that saw the US gunning down civilians.Intentionally. run with that, ok?

so what terrorists are we killing? who get's to be the decider? The Nicarauguans? Haitians? ElSalvadorans? what terrorists would they kill? overall what a foolish and pointless question, stir the pot, create hatred and fear, right, as intended.

And in case you missed it, this ended with me blowing it right back into the faces of sanctimonious posers. There is no moral high ground...get over it. no kidding, but , do you hear me claiming the US holds that ? and other parties/countries don't good vs bad. It's all BS, and I've already stated that. You see it's other posters on this forum that make those claims verbatim, but not you, that the US and the West are righteous and good and true and godlike, and those vilified by the said righteous are bad. "evil-doers" like president Bush says. But then you know there is no moral higher ground, and you KNOW it is BS, meant to fool the polyanna's and thanks so much for helping me with that. But please plead your case to those who make the claims of superior western morality, "it ain't me babe, no, no , no it ain't me babe, it ain't me your looking for" Bob Dylan

And to counter you show a newspaper article of some event from 1950 ? How is that relevant today? Things were different then. Pretty sure if we could all get into lost or hidden CDN govt files we could find papers that might just shock you. We are a nation that likes to look after our people...yet we also sterilized the mentally deficient against their wishes for nothing more than eradication of the "stupid" . Got to keep those genes out of the soup. Sad but true. that's today's news, did you read it? How is that relevant today, you ask? read the article, it's obviously relevant to historical documentation, relevant to the survivors. It's the same old, same old, as stated , nothings changed. the rest of your post, is IMO, pointless, words, meant to say, i don't know what, in relation to the topic at hand. Americans kill people , canadians kill people, all manner of people, mostly for no good reason at all. "we are a nation that likes to look after our people" what the heck is that about, besides the fact that it's alot of bull. IMO your way off topic.

Oh, you mean like Canada does with documented human rights abuses (e.g. First Nations prisoners, women, child abuse in residential schools, etc., etc.)? “The Committee is also seriously concerned about Canada’s treatment of women prisoners,” said Kim Pate of the Canadian Association of Elizabeth Fry Societies. “They direct Canada to fully implement the recommendations of the Canadian Human Rights Commission and report back to them in one year. They stress the need to remove male staff from direct contact with women prisoners, to limit the use of segregation, and to establish immediately an independent external redress and adjudication body for federally sentenced prisoners. The implementation of these recommendations is key to remedying the current discriminatory treatment of women prisoners. Canada must act now.” http://www.fafia-afai.org/en/node/64 Residential Schools Abuse in Canada: In the 1990s, it was revealed that many students at residential schools were subjected to severe physical, psychological, and sexual abuse by teachers and school officials. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residential_school Moral High Ground my ass. no kidding! in case you missed it, this all started out with a little video, showing US prisoner trtmt vs iranian. live with it. But thanks for demonstrating that it ain't just the US, it's Canada that holds no high ground on prisoner treatment either. You helped to solidify my contention even more so!!

There is no moral high ground....Canada tortured and murdered Somalis and the "punishment" for the criminals was laughable. Same deal in Haiti. Same deal in Serbia (NATO strike packages, including CF-18's, killed civilians). Same deal in Afghanistan. Morality begins at home....LOL! No , really, so don't claim any BC, k? I am not the one that posts on a forum that the west is on a mission from god, to save the world from evil. That's a load of BS I leave that to you, to pull the wool over the heads , of what was your word, the 'pollyannas'. Yeah, that was it. The believers, the brainwashed, the people who have no grip on reality. The "good germans"

Happens everyday in American prisons,( beatings and rapings) no Iranians present or in sight. How is it you miss the point, the US holds NO moral high ground in prisoner treatment, so , don't point the finger and whine about it, cause it's hypocrisy, plain and simple. The only people that believe that nonsense, are persons , who willingly turn a blind eye to there own evils, so they think they can point a finger at other's.

As it did in Somalia....GO Airborne Regiment!!! Oh, and why would it make any difference if it's men, women or children being murdered? Is it OK to slaughter male civilians and (unborn babies)? nope it's not ok to kill male civilans either, but , if you read the entire article, you would realize, I am just quoting from it. it's just another nail in the coffin, for the myth of US democracy bringing, and 'tries not to harm civilians" as so many claim.( particularily scriblett) Time to smell the coffee, or the roses, whichever you prefer, the US intentionally targets civilians, wether it is Vietnam, Korea, or Iraq, they have and they will and they still do. The US military also cover's up their attrocities, for as long as they can. No moral high ground can ever be claimed by the US. simple as that.