Guthrie

and yet, none of those arguments is mentioned by the clip interviewees -- country that begins with, 'U?' -- uh Cuba? Utah? but nope, no fetuses

Link most interesting part of the list is not that Rosie O'Donnell is on it --- to me it's most interesting who is NOT on the list How bad of a president, how failed must his foreign policy be, how rejected as a leader must he be to not make it onto the top 100 influential people how sad of an Emmett Kelly is this shrubbistic subhumanoid

well they didn't start with the old joke, "C, eh, N, eh, D, eh" and maybe they thought they live in the Younited States

No, he never said, 'one battle,' he said, 'major military operations' as for the banner, he brought that with him, it was a banner not just MADE BY the White House - but also LIED ABOUT by the White House

so, can we start accusing you of America-bashing now that you've made that concession? Go ahead. Just try and have some substance against the actual argument somewhere in between the ad hominem attacks. OK, I think that clip must have been filmed in Texas -- I am not sure that the majority of Texans know whether they are North Americans or not how dare you

I think that clip was filmed in Texas so, can we start accusing you of America-bashing now that you've made that concession?

Iraq's nuclear program pretty much died with it's super-gun program-- somewhere in there, it looks like Saddam went spare and while he still ordered executions and parades, he had no real control over what was going on in his own military, they just told him what he wanted to hear -- he was very close to entering, 'Uncle Teddy Land,' when he found himself crouching in a dirt spider hole

prove it

Tenet has a bad memory and subsitutes that with imagination. Wilson had nothing and as it turned out was wrong. Iraq did try to buy yellow cake but were turned down, and already hand 500 tons. It takes quite a case of cognitive dissonance to believe all of those lies -- Wilson had the facts, Tenet had the facts, Iraq did not try to buy yellow cake and no, they had no nuclear weapons program

Never been debunked. However we the 911 commision never heard everything. Is that post supposed to mean something in english?

this is completely meaningless who attacks the second ammendment? what are these, 'dubious' arguments. As to the framers, this is a very uninformed and ill-conceived comment about them. This is absolutely false.

What evidence. The evidence given them by George Tenet, the evidence given them by Joe Wilson, the evidence given them by the Italian govt but I guess the biggest piece of evidence came from the International Atomic Energy Agency who only needed two hours and Google to show the document to be a, "crude forgery" I don't suppose some folks ever bothered to look at the real evidence.

The admin. had evidence the Niger yellowcake story was a fraud -- they used it as their strongest argument to invade Iraq 1998, naturally there was no Bush administration in DC - however, Bush was attacking Clinton for not having a clear exit strategy and a timeline for withdrawal from Bosnia --- he swore, as president he would never engage in nation building so, the fact that it was just Bush himself lying in 1998, does that clear the Bush administration?

Well yes, it is a very good idea to warn terrorists everywhere. We won't be led by an easily defeated dumbass much longer, so watch out!!! When we get rid of these frauds who engage in war so they can rob taxpayers, then we will only use war when necessary and it is, when we really mean it, when we have leaders who understand what it is really about, a very bad idea to go to war against America.

yes a terrible number - but still not so devastating as the war itself - and people are still dying from the tools of the vietnam war, left behind, a surprise to take a childs arm or a farmers leg or a grandmothers life the entire concept is just such a waste of time, energy and human potential

boat people were already brought up

Well if they had gone with the notion and propaganda that Saddam was bad and needed to be taken out and not lie about it, it might have never gone down. Gotta sex up everything for the masses. But because they lied about the 'true goal', I cannot put much faith in the war on terror. and overall Iraq will be a thorn in the US's side for decades to come. They never lied about anything. The Clinton administration had said the same thing, and congress looked at it said the same thing and voted for the war. THAT defense they offer is also a lie. Clinton never said the same thing and congress never voted to declare war.

Guns have never and never will be banned in the US those peddling such a fear have an agenda different from democracy

Ron Paul has an excellant chance of being on the 2008 ballot, running for president, leading the Libertarian ticket.

"Having special status in the law for 'hate' crimes is too arbitrary" - escept such status exists already - the question is not whether the law should exist but who should it protect --- already groups have special protection or special penalties assessed for their attackers -- if you want to remove such status, well the guys you thank for defeating the most recent legislation are not about to give up their own special protected status - they are the worst of hypocrites and no, the dismantling of public dissent is not averted by defeating this legislation --- and quite contrary, the guys who defeated this hate crimes bill are quite accepting of muffling public dissent so, bottom line - defeating hate crime can not in any way shape or form be considered a victory for free speech -- it is too bad that people confuse these things

Since when is terrorism free speech?

I think the balance would have to really drastically shift. CO2 enrichment is employed in greenhouses to encourage rapid and abundant vegetative growth. Plants get their needed Carbon from CO2 - less CO2 = less plants. Readings of 500 - 600 ppm CO2 in controlled environments are not unheard of, and work to raise yields: " Colorado State University conducted tests with carnations and other flowers in controlled CO2 atmospheres ranging from 200 to 550 ppm. The higher CO2 concentrations significantly increased the rate of formation of dry plant matter, total flower yield and market value." http://homeharvest.com/carbondioxideenrichment.htm it isn't the point - no one has yet suggested the planet is dying of CO2 poisoning -- but the part CO2 plays in melting ice and weather patten shifts is real, dangerous to the continuation of human life and answerable

It wasn't Al Gore - nor does it fit this thread - nor was it much of a come back

"The President should also lay out a timetable for how long American troops will be involved and when they will be removed. If a residual force is needed, it is important that over time US troops are withdrawn and our .. allies assume most of the responsibility." - guess who said this "You can support the troops and not the president." - guess who said this

and talk about the horrendous hypocrisy of these right wing chickenhawks: "I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today" --Rep Tom Delay (R-TX) "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is." --Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)