French Patriot

It is a great place but one could imagine better. Jesus, the Gnostic Jesus that is, knew intellectually that we lived in the best of all possible worlds, because it was the only possible world, given history. We can of course imagine better. Regards DL

Not a lot, if you go by the stats. BTW. Our morals are created by our DNA and nature. That is why our laws are superior to Yahweh's. We create for the best possible end while he does the opposite. Hence his genocidal nature. Regards DL

Not come?? You are thinking limits for a limitless god. If you have a gods power, you always get what you want and will to get. If you are willing that none be lost, none are. Regards DL

Why does god put the needs of the few above the needs of the many? That moral tenet is about the only objective moral tenet I know of that has not been shown to ever be subjective. Yahweh seems to be doing the wrong thing. We are told that most of us will end on the wide road to hell while the few end on the narrow path to heaven. It is demonstrable that nature creates for the best possible end. Why does Yahweh not follow the better rules he gave nature, and creates us for the worst possible end for the vast majority of us? A decent father would not have the morals or ethics Yahweh seems to follow. If true, then we end with more souls lost to Satan than souls saved by Yahweh. Even as scriptures say that Yahweh wills that all souls be saved. God not getting his will is not allowed. God must always come out ahead. Something is not right for god. Thoughts? Regards DL

Who will swallow the Corona virus debt? The rich or the poor? Poverty is a condition imposed by governments through the tax system. The world will have to pay dearly, not only now, but in the near future, for the hardships cause by this pandemic and the various other upcoming health crisis. We are already handing our children a dying planet. Will we saddle them with more poverty as well? Poverty is created by the tax system. Gandhi also said that to impose poverty was a crime. The tax system is controlled by the rich. Demographically speaking, this fact is proven by their outrageous demographic position and control of the legislation. Will the rich swallow the huge debt that will soon hit us, or will they place the debt as more poverty for our next extinction bound generation? The next tax laws, everywhere, will show if more poor die, or if the rich will give up their loose change, which is all that it takes, to end poverty. Regards DL

Christians are more moral than Yahweh and Jesus. So why worship them? The Bible contains many instances that show Yahweh doing things that no moral human would do. Not even the most right-wing Christian theist. If you Christians had God’s power, in Noah’s days, you Christians would not use Genocide against man and beast on the earth. Jesus said he came to cure those in need, not kill them, so you would cure those in Noah’s day and would not kill them all. Right? In Egypt, you Christians would not harden Pharaoh’s heart but would leave it soft and let him let the Jews go. You would not punish the first born for what their parents did. If anything, you would punish the guilty and not the innocent. Right? To the many other instances where God ordered massacres of babies, you Christians would not, as your better morals would make you care or cure and not kill. Right? Christians and Muslim thus recognize their better morals. That being the case, why have you Christians and Muslims chosen to follow a God whose morals are inferior to your own? Religions are supposed to be all about morals, yet Christians seem to ignore that their morals and ethics are better than Yahweh’s by a long shot. Right? Why do you follow Yahweh, knowing that your morals are above Yahweh’s? Regards DL

Religions and supernatural beliefs are the enemy of world peace, as shown by 5000 years of war. Supernatural believing faith-based religious hierarchies have been lying so much to their people that the more vulnerable of their people actually believe the --- mythical, allegorical, imaginary icons that they are persuaded,--- against all logic and reason, --- to believe in as real. That is abuse to a mind. A mind is a person’s most treasured possession and to allow liars and con men to effect and infect so many minds, --- should be made illegal, as well as a sin, --- but of course, --- the world is not ready for a moral religious lesson. Logic, reason, logos, intelligent thinking, --- it seems, --- are no match against the vile con men who run the religions and the mythos they and the faith poison they use to damage precious minds. We and our ancestors have paid a high price to the religious con men that have damaged so many minds. A huge price in minds, cash as well as; world peace. Those con men should be censored. Religions are a good thing. They have just forgotten that they were created to produce peace. Not the God damned God produced 5,000 years of our war filled history. While those same religions oppressed non-believers, women and gays. As the majority, the religious also impose poverty. The supernatural belief fostered by the mainstream, --- immoral, homophobic, and misogynous religions, --- and their con men hierarchy, --- are not a friend to peace. They should be outlawed as soon as possible. This would allow what Jesus preached in terms of electing a human God. Human Gods can make peace and I suggest we elect one, as in the Roman System, democracy; to bring peace to the world that we are God damned destroying for our children. Their precious minds are in your hands. Logos or mythos must be chosen by all. Peace wants Logos, not mythos, faith, or an unproven supernatural concept of any kind. Trust the method for peace that Jesus preached. Elect a God. A man. Jesus asked his people if they had forgotten that they were Gods. Most had, but not the Gnostics who had taught the Roman Jesus. Be a Gnostic and recognize the evil of religions, as well as the good parts. I would prefer to focus on the good, but my love has created a great hate for the religious con men who harm so many. That hate forces me to call them out, even as I recognize the need for community churches. Less so now as in the past. Our world cannot afford to lose good minds to religious faith based supernatural thinking that is helping to destroy our world. Peace and decent morality would like to prevail. Be decent parents and people and tell your children that there is nothing to fear from the supernatural, because there is only good, in what you can imagine somehow; even if you do not see it in your imagination immediately. Think dreams. Minds are too precious to allow frivolous impairment with supernatural beliefs. Save your mind by discarding faith without facts and the imaginary supernatural realm. Please. Regards DL

Trump is a spiritual universalist who will not condemn White Racism without a just cause. Innocent till proven guilty. The First rule of law. I am not sure if Trump is an idiot savant or not, due to his inability to articulate issues in a non-personal way. He has a small mind; that or his handlers have. Or a good one who knows how to defect. As a universalist, I could not condemn any racism because it is natural to be racist of those not of our color or race, should we think of ourselves as other than one human race. Most mitigate their universalism racism and tribalism better than Trump. Trump cannot condemn the existence of any racist group any more than he can all other militia, which to him would include all fighting forces. Trump would have to condemn every group. Trump is thinking like a Gnostic Christian would, in this case. The correct way. Universalist thinking unites a country. Note that the mainstream religions do not, do what all in the country want. They misuse God and divide us. Trump, to me, sounds like an illiterate fool at times. This time he may be a Gnostic Christian savant who cannot express his thinking well on this particular issue. We cannot help but be racist. Let’s work on mitigating the negative parts, while embracing the tribalism it produces. Without racism and tribalism, we would not be here. Ironically, not be here to be working on destroying our planet. This aside. Is universalist thinking a part of your ideology? It is in mine and I think it a much better system as it tries to recognize the worth of all of us. I think we should scrap LGBTQ and make it LGBTQN. N being the norm. I am a Norm. Is Trump an idiot savant, an idiot, a savant? To date, I have been leaning towards idiot, but his racism position is savant grade. Racism holds more positives than negatives. Tribalism and our existence is the proof of concept of this truth. Regards DL

True that the bible speaks of end times. A mythical concept that should be discarded as it wqas likely invented to loosen the purse strings of the gullible sheeple. As to the present support of followers for their genocidal prick of a god, you would have to ask them their motivations for doing something so unethical. Good people usually condemn any genocidal prick. Regards DL

Something I thing all the religious in the vile god religions should do. The first pushes faith in Jesus after telling us the good reasons not to. Faith, without facts, is for fools, and Christianity does not have facts. You have no ideology that you live by or put above all the others? I cannot see that. Same thing. Splitting hairs. Regards DL

Armageddon, a genocide, is N.T. So the pros and cons of genocide is a silly argument. Ok. Hitler and your vile prick of a god will be pleased at your thinking. Regards DL

It does indeed, but even Yahweh can't follow his own rules. He murders many. Jesus can't either if his actions when he initiates Armageddon are as predicted. Regards DL

Punish the sinner is not in the Christian play book. Christianity is based on adherents doing the immoral act of abdicating their responsibilities for their sins and accept having Jesus, an innocent man, punished for themselves. As to protecting the innocent babies and children when using genocide, not in the scriptures. Yahweh, by any other name, is still a satanic prick. Regards DL

If you read the bible, and did not disagree with it, or even if you agreed with it, you could quote it. Regards DL

Where you ask. Gen 3. He will rule over you. IOW. men are to control and be seen as superior to women. As to men controlling women, I adlib the bible. Stay silent in church and do not dare to try to teach men anything. Note how equality and Christianity do not promote the same values. Hence Christianity's homophobia and misogyny. Regards DL

Yep, all for the love of a satanic immoral god. Regards DL

All the instances where we are murdered in masses either by Yahweh or on his orders. Start at Noah if you want and end with Armageddon. Knowing that god can cure as easily as kill, when god orders genocide, is he being God like of Satan like? Regards DL

God is Love, seems to be setting a low bar for Love? Right? Should, Yahweh is Love, be read as, Yahweh is Hate? God is as dualistic as the universe is. Yin and Yang compliment each other but one side is perceived as dominant in our subjective views. Most Christians think Yahweh to be good, but many in both the believer and non-believer camps disagree. Reality also disagrees. I see more hate in Yahweh than love. Do you? Regards DL

Who would you rather meet, your god or an alien? Why? A god I have and already know, tells you my position. I would rather find an alien as then I would learn many new things, even though they would all be analogies of what I already know. Meeting a supernatural god would not give me much of anything in terms of morals and ethics. You? Regards DL

Hitler’s genocide, evil. Yahweh’s genocides good; say Christians, Muslims & Jews! -- ? I must be reading the religionist nice guys wrong. Religions are supposed to be religions of peace. Not of war. Genocide is a war god’s tool. I do not want to believe that my parents, Christians, would condone such crimes against humanity. I am sure you fell the same way for your parents. Do as your religion bid you do. Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth. Please show your love and correct me by proving me wrong and admit you hate all genocidal characters. I must be wrong. Regards DL

You're grabbing just about anything to support you, eh? Give your genocidal prick of a god a big kiss for me. Regards DL

Heelaque Thanks for your clear presentation. Your ideology/belief system, tell you that black is not a color yet it is in most color charts. If you allow yourself that, then you would also have to eliminate white as it is made up of all colors, including black. This link might help in terms of modifying your definitions. I like the way he tries to fight idol worship, then ends in showing that he is one. I do know that many atheists do not like to be labelled as religious, but remember that atheist is wjhat they used to label the old mystery schools. At the same time, many atheists are bright enough to know that if they do not give their children to appease or gratify their tribal instincts, one of the more vile god religions might draw them. Religio, if you check the original definition, you will see that it was more of a secular term than what we think today. Regards DL

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Did Yahweh do us a favor by denying us eternal life? It seems that the older I get, the less enjoyable and desirable the thought of living eternally becomes, even though I am quite pleased with how my life has evolved and how I will end this life. Be it with a body here on earth, or as a spirit in some heaven, I cannot imagine anyone living eternally and enjoying it. It would be like living watching the same T V program running over and over and over, since there is nothing new under the sun. All would be seen as allegories and or analogous of other situations. Thoughts? Regards DL

Yes, and Christians love to hate homosexual and women as is apparent from how they interpret scriptures and push homophobic and misogynous teachings. Regards DL