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French Patriot

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  1. You know that god is dead, how? I ask, basically, to see if you know what a logical fallacy is, as you are using one and should not as that is a theist's trick. Regards DL
  2. God given rights. Do you really have any? We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. When a right is given to us by governments, they assume and have a duty to ensure that they are never taken from us. If governments do not accept and do this enforcement duty, then citizens have a corrupted government. If a right is given to a soul, by god, he would have a duty to ensure that they are never taken from us. The fact that they often are, indicates that he is shirking his duty. To me, rights are like laws, completely useless and worthless unless they can be enforced by a given power when they are breached. Do you have any real god given rights, or are god given rights just a feel-good lie that we tell ourselves we have so as to ignore that we have none? Regards DL
  3. Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor? Most people see Judas as a traitor in the myth of the crucifixion. Few recognize that Jesus was asking his most trusted disciple, Judas, to turn him over to the Jews and Pilate. Most are unaware of the meaning of the sop that Jesus gave to Judas at the last supper. Without knowing the definition and meaning of that word, it is not surprising that most think of Judas as they do. The completely wrong way. A sop is basically a gift or conciliatory bribe, something that seals a deal. That is what Jesus gave Judas, his most trusted disciple. We know he was Jesus’ favorite because he was Jesus’ banker. Dictionary reference for sop. Something that is done or given to someone in order to prevent trouble, gain support, etc. A conciliatory gift or bribe. Without the betrayal, Jesus would not have died for us, as Yahweh had planned, and scriptures say that Judas also had no choice as that would have derailed god’s plan. If any blame for Jesus’ death is to be given, it must be to Yahweh, whose plan, scriptures say must come to pass. Meaning that Yahweh would have to control all the players including Judas. Scriptures show Jesus persuading Judas to do what he would not ordinarily have thought of doing. Judas believed that Jesus was the messiah who was to rise again to lead the Jews. This lie imposed by Yahweh. Was Judas a good man doing Jesus’ will or was he a traitor? Regards DL
  4. I am not a literal reader of the myth and recognize that Jesus spoke mostly I parables for the simple audience he addressed. That aside. I am inviting literalists to explain the words the scribes and those who control the religious holy books put into Jesus' mouth. It never happened in reality from what we can know, but literalists don't recognize that fact. Regards DL
  5. I have read enough of it to know that Islam has a putrid ideology. If you are a woman, hard to tell from your avatar's garb, tell us why Allah make you a degree less than men. That might help me understand your adoring a prick of a god. Regards DL
  6. Jesus using the term, "me", speaks against your view. If he meant us, he would more than likely say, "us". Regards DL
  7. I agree. Strange then that you speak of god and his desires when you have no way of knowing either. Splinter and log in the eye comes to mind. Regards DL
  8. Was Jesus aware of being Yahweh? I have wondered how Christians rationalized Jesus' last words --- "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" Jesus seems unaware that he was God. What did Jesus mean by forsaken? The usual definition means abandoned or deserted. How can one abandon or desert themselves? If Jesus knew he was Yahweh, how did he feel about the poor reputation the Jews gave Yahweh? Is that why the Jews tried to kill Jesus more than once before the cross got him? Further. Jesus also said that he and god were one, yet scriptures seem to show Jesus as Yahweh’s good side and Yahweh as the evil side. If Jesus/Yahweh shared the some consciousness, which they would have to given that there is only one god in Christianity, why are they so different? Regards DL
  9. Your lesson that a genocidal prick of a god is somehow good shows what an immoral prick your teacher is. Goodbye, moral coward. Regards DL
  10. You promote not mocking a genocidal god, which shows the damage of supernatural and stupid thinking. Regards DL
  11. Supernatural and fantasy thinking about religion. Is it good or evil? We can scientifically explain the supernatural itch that some allow to control their thinking. In children, this might be a good way of expanding their minds, but adults are asked to put away the things of children, which, to me, includes supernatural and fantasy thinking. I use these to show substance dualism. I see this as a useful trait for us in nature but not for our spiritual and religious sides. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWx_uVDh4Cw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IqYHiejTVM I see thinking supernaturally as a deterrent to knowing god, even as I promote fantasy thinking in the seeking of the best rulers and laws to live by, which is a good definition for god. After all, Moses, not that he was real, came down from the mountain with rules and laws and not some fantasy supernatural god. The laws on earth can never be the same laws as in heaven and we can never reach the pinnacle of as above, so below. Do you see supernatural thinking as childish or adult thinking? Do you see supernatural thinking in childish as good? Do you see supernatural thinking in adults as evil? Regards DL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvBxFXQy7-M
  12. You know enough to not believe B.S., from what I can see. As a Jew, you should know that Judaism was on the right track to a moral ideology in their thinking of god, before Christianity usurped you god, and changed the moral of the biblical story to suit their homophobic and misogynous ways. Judaism was led by those who kept the oral Torah, which can and does over rule the written Torah. As Jesus asked the Jews, have ye forgotten that ye are gods? Most people have. Not Gnostic Christians and the esoteric Jews who are still within Judaism. Study the older systems as they were and are better than the newer corrupted systems. I hope you can see how intelligent the ancients were as compared to the mental efforts that modern preachers and theists are using with the literal reading of myths. https://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2 Further. http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it." Please listen as to what is said about the literal reading of myths. "Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning." Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. This is how early Gnostic Christians view the transition from reading myths properly to destructive literal reading and idol worship. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR02ciandvg&feature=BFa&list=PLCBF574D Regards DL
  13. Thanks for a well put post. I disagree with this bit. If believers cannot fathom than a genocidal god is more satanic than, Satan she is shown to be in scriptures, then they are mentally and morally deficient. You seem to think that most theists work towards enlightenment. I do not see it as the vast majority just follow culture, custom, fashions and religions that they are born into. I thank all the gods that the newer generations are not as sheepish as their immoral genocidal god loving parents. I agree but focus more on the human animal as it can express himself with words that give a lot of information on how his instincts are expressing themselves. Regards DL
  14. So like your god, you would rather kill human souls instead of curing them. Thanks for showing us what Satan thinks like. Regards DL
  15. From those who use inquisitions. Are you that brain dead. Scholarship my ass. You are a useless thumper of the thought of other because you cannot reason. Regards DL
  16. That was stupid. When you change your mind on something, do you destroy it when you can fix it? Not if you have half a brain, so why are you indicating that god has only half a brain and would destroy what he can fix? You seem hell bent on making Yahweh a murderer even though Jesus, the other head of god, said he came to cure and not to kill. You cannot help it when so foolish as to read a myth literally instead of applying Midrash to it. I put an O.P. on god's will that speak to this idea of his murdering and doing his will. Don't be a moral coward. Jump in. Regards DL
  17. Does Yahweh/Jesus live by the Golden Rule? Most Christians seem to think so as they say that Yahweh/Jesus can do no evil. We could look at all the commandments and laws but that might have us taking off in too many directions so I thought the Golden Rule might be a good starting point as it encompasses many of the commandments. Most, I hope, start their moral thinking by some variant of the Golden Rule, a reciprocity rule, so I think we can all relate to some degree in judging Yahweh/Jesus. Christians are told in scriptures to judge all things. Most Christians have judged Yahweh/Jesus and I wondered if others had as well. Be you a Christian or not, could I have your overall thoughts and judgement of Yahweh/Jesus based on if you see him living by the Golden Rule? Regards DL
  18. Can Yahweh always do what he wills, or can people thwart him? Sc riptures seem conflicted on the answer. They show an all-powerful god whose plan and will cannot be thwarted or derailed, while at the same time indicating that he cannot do his will and that people can derail his plan to save everyone. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. Do you have faith? If you do, you cannot believe in hell. You would not think god a loser by believing he saves us all, as his will indicates. Those scriptures say he has no need of a hell for us. Do you see god as too incompetent to do his will of saving us all? Or do you see god as a universalist god who does his will and saves us all? Regards DL
  19. What does this have to do with god never changing his mind? If he regretted an act, he would just reverse or cure it. Right? Jesus said he came to cure, not kill. Regards DL
  20. You are the one hiding from the moral truth of your immoral views. Your bible says come reason, and here you are, such a pathetic apologist, that all you can do is quote a bible that you cannot even read and interpret correctly. That is why the god you see you see as to incompetent to do his will of saving us all. You try to make god in your image of a pathetic loser who cannot reason without thumping your head off. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. Regards DL
  21. It does indeed. But you show every time you open your mouth that you do not believe he does his will. Likely because you see him as to incompetent to do it, with your belief in that some of us will end in hell, when he wills that no one be lost to him. You do not let him be the jealous god that he is and save us all. God is not the problem, you and most other Christians are. You have no faith or belief in his power. Regards DL
  22. Inquisitions and jihads, just for starters. Homophobia and misogyny, especially in Islam for next. Regards DL
  23. Scriptures have Yahweh saying he never changes his mind and once he says something, it is forever. Even Trinitarians cannot have the 2 heads contradict each other. Regards DL
  24. I will. You to, moral coward. Jesus curses those who cannot do decent apologetics for him and just run away. He said his people would fight for him and you and your ilk just run for the hills. Regards DL
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