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You immoral scapegoat riders go directly against what Jesus taught and you do not care. Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin. Care to revue your immoral ways of thinking? I did not think so, loser. Regards DL
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Building dependence on another weakens, especially when it is a false guilt in the first place. Further, it is immoral to offer to be, or accept to accept a messiah. All moral people know this. Abdication of responsibility is not what Jesus taught. Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin. Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him: Regards DL
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All religious liars say the same. Do unto others allows others to hide behind some supernatural shield as well and say as many unfounded lies as you do. The ancients and more intelligent and astute, before supernatural belief brought in the Dark Ages most religionists did not have to lie. I hope you can see how intelligent the ancients were as compared to the mental efforts that modern preachers and theists are using with the literal reading of myths. https://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2 Further. http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it." Please listen as to what is said about the literal reading of myths. "Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning." Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. This is how early Gnostic Christians view the transition from reading myths properly to destructive literal reading and idol worship. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR02ciandvg&feature=BFa&list=PLCBF574D Regards DL
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Indeed; called sanity and a decent moral sense, Satan. Who taught an animal without vocal cords to speak,--- and who is more sane, --- one who idolizes a genocidal god the way you do, --- or one who would condemn such a vile degenerate god to hell? I look forward to more of your deflections. Regards DL
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It would be of the reality of Jesus. Is he your savior, as the apostles creed you likely swore, says you must believe? Are you one of the immoral who will sin to be saved by abdicating Jesus' own laws? Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin. Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him: Regards DL
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Consider. If there is a supernatural god, then there are many. The first commandment hints at this. Further, such a god would have the problem of evil, while a nature based god does not. Scriptures have a supernatural god creating for our worst end, Yahweh and genocide/Armageddon, while nature demonstrably creates us and sustains us for our best end. Regards DL
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Was Adam supposed to sin in God's great plan?
French Patriot replied to French Patriot's topic in Religion & Politics
Too stupid and immoral to connect the dots. Go away. Regards DL -
Was Adam supposed to sin in God's great plan?
French Patriot replied to French Patriot's topic in Religion & Politics
Your morals are garbage. Do you have the balls to discuss them? On Jesus dying for Christians. Try to think in a moral way. It takes quite an inflated ego to think a god would actually die for us, after condemning us unjustly in the first place. Christians have swallowed a lie and don’t care how evil they make Jesus to keep their feel good get out of hell free card. It is a lie, first and foremost, because, like it or not, having another innocent person suffer or die for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral. To abdicate your personal responsibility for your actions or use a scapegoat is immoral. Christians also have to ignore what Jesus, as a Jewish Rabbi, would have taught his people. Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin. Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him: There is no way that Christians would teach their children to use a scapegoat to escape their just punishments and here you are promoting doing just that. Jesus is just a smidge less immoral than his demiurge genocidal father, and here you are trying to put him as low in moral fiber as Yahweh. Tsk tsk. Regards DL -
Was Adam supposed to sin in God's great plan?
French Patriot replied to French Patriot's topic in Religion & Politics
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Was Adam supposed to sin in God's great plan?
French Patriot replied to French Patriot's topic in Religion & Politics
There was no death before man sinned against God. That is not relevant to what I put and that you show ignorance of. I was referring to this. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake. You blame Pilot, but Yahweh had already chosen him as well. So much for free will. If you cannot do decent and better apologetics best to ignore me. Regards DL -
Was Adam supposed to sin in God's great plan?
French Patriot replied to French Patriot's topic in Religion & Politics
What does an all powerful god need help with? Who can express his thoughts better. Regards DL -
Was Adam supposed to sin in God's great plan?
French Patriot replied to French Patriot's topic in Religion & Politics
Why would an all powerful everywhere present god allow his plan to be derailed? Have you forgotten that he had already sentenced Jesus to death? A funny kind of death, but the death of her, if you are a literalist, for sure. Would you deny her the title of saviour? Tell me please. Do you see Yahweh's plan as on track or derailed? Regards DL -
Was Adam supposed to sin in God's great plan? Thanks. Regards DL
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Adam sinned, not Eve. Why did Yahweh punish an innocent Eve? Be you a believer or not, your life has been affected by the mainstream religions and the myth of Adam and Eve. It is the source of Christian homophobia and misogyny. There are many strange things in the myth of Adam and Eve. Was Adam born alone or first? If Adam was created in God’s image and likeness, who is woman modeled after? Satan is depicted in part as a woman. Who was she modeled on and why female? Likely because of evolution and women being men’s biological prize. In law, to be punished, one must be shown to have evil intent or an evil mind. Latin, Men’s Rea. This is what human justice is based on. Was Eve innocent, given that she had no evil intent? Regards DL
