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Your compassion is quite stirring. I have the same feeling about you. Thankfully, there is an ignore button here that I'll activate now. Perhaps with no one to respond to here you will let your rage fester impotently. If not, seek help. It's quite ok to let Canadians die on waiting lists. It's ok to fund Arar and make his dreams come true as he uses our loans and services and snatches up precious white collar Canadian jobs. And I excersise my opinion that I want him out of my country and I get ignored and reported on this forum. You guys feel *soooo* strongly on this opertunist and his well being but forget about the Canadian who built this country so he can come here and enjoy what we worked for. Now he's goign to be rich living a lavish life off tax payers money and you support him and his dreams and his life along with his family that have proven tie to AL-Queda who KILLED Canadians on 9-11. This self hating attitude is sickening and destructive.. Go ahead and support them, but you are part of the problem that we have in this country: you have NO nationality or pride in our country. You couldn't care less what happens to true Canadians and you fail to see the bigger picture of his lawsuit. (Atleast Tony Blair admitted that the generosity of the British is being taken advantage of and taken for granted. Unfortunately, the Trudeau Kool-Aid has been drunken for to long by too many Canadians).

That is true. But the United States of America has the greatest level of democracy that is not matched anywhere else in the world. I feel we should move their system. We can't keep letting elites run our country from the back office.

There is also a common culture. For instance, South Asian culture includes Pakistan, Bangledesh, Sri Lanka, and India. While they have different langauges, they all share a south asian culture which is arguably the strongest in the world. There is a European culture which we are all familiar with. Then there is the 'North American' culture which is based off working and democracy. Then from there it keeps narrowing. Then religion gets involved. Then it falls apart. We should strive for assimilation and the language of English/French. We should not bend to anyone when it comes to sacrificing our ways to old country ways. (ie: Shariah Law, ethnic holidays, not working, etc).

Exactly my point. He is soliciting support.

Lol... I gotta put that on a plaque. A true classic.

Democratic reaform is pie in the sky but I agree that would be at the top of my list if it was feasable.

I guess the law suit is just a rumor and the lawyers are working for free.

Canada is not a fuly democratic country. It may be in ideoligy, but not in reality.

Oh Wow i'm so mad and fired up!! I just can't believe this is happeing in Canada! LOOK AT THIS: http://www.maherarar.ca/legal%20team.php He has his own LIBERAL RED WEBSITE WHERE HE IS SOLICITING SUPPORT SO HE CAN MAKE MILLIONS OF CANADIAN TAX PAYERS. I'm so upset over this. I should launch a website to combat this. This should NOT BE HAPPENING in Canada.

You wouldn't care if he was anyways. Of course I don't care if he was beaten. I really don't care about him and want him our of my country.

Yes. However, Maher Arar did not get due process. Therefore, condemning him before he is convicted is horrifyingly wrong. He did get due process legally in the US, he was visited many many times while he was in Syria. His wife even got to run for politics. Now he's looking to get rich from Canadians. Leave Arar. Take your family and leave my country. Neither did the imams and families that got deported from the UK after the train bombings who had nothign to do with the bombings. They were even citizens of the UK. They were considered 'undesireables' who were not wanted in the UK for their activities. I feel Arar and his family with ties to Al-Queada more than fit this category. If the lava was sentient and conciously decided to burn me, yes. It's up for debate who did the wrong doing. There may be a matter within the RCMP that needs to be investigaed internally, but us as Canadians did him no wrong for the simple fact that he is a born, card holding, CITIZEN of his own country Syria. What about his do you not understand. He is Syrian and that's his homeland. Yes the RCMP agent did it. So what. They should be fired and lets close this case. I still invite Arar to leave Canada and he should get nothign from this. If he got torchered at home, then he can sue his home country of Syria. Canada is not here to take on the worlds problems - including people. He was proven guilty. He had family ties to Al-Queda. He should not be here or in the US in order to protect our security. No exceptions. It *is* our business. It's our country and a $37,000,000 of our dollars are up for grabs. Actually my grandfather converted my name from arabic to english becuase that's what a lot of people did back then. It was called integration. he never went back to Lebannon and helped build the country. These days we have these glob trotters who threaten our security and ruin or social services. We need to stop this. But should you and I pay Arar for what these people did. Their negligence isn't my responsibility. 1- He's not entitled to recourse. He can be expelled and take recourse at his home against Syria. The US didn't cave for his 2 law suits and neither should we. 2 -They should be fired yes, but that's all. You do not understand the horror of what torture can be. Yeah the Canadian compassion that we're known for. Letting arar come here, use services to get his education and wife in the country, take Canadian jobs, and then give him $37,000,000. He can go back home. We (the common working person who aren't political hacks) don't want him here for this reason. As Blair says, we are now being taken advantage of.

Oh come on. WTF would you know? The cards don't stack in his favor that he was tortured. He simply can't provide the burden of proof.

I think you meant to put that the other way around: $1000 publicly, $500 privately.

Lol.. We have Canadians dying on waiting lists and you are for supporting some idealistic, abstract environmental issues that you probably don't even understand. Either that or your just following what Dion wants you to (like a Canadian no less! =)

I 100% agree. Finally someone understands. Voting on propositions in the US is just a way of life there. The only argument against this being: "average Canadians are too stupid to vote". Maybe for once Canadians would become engaged in our country and politics if they got a say for once in their lives. I've said this a million times - we have an elite run, dictatorship style of gov't where the people have no say.

I disagree. They can act in a manner, but the status of 'marriage' is a whole other ballgame. Citizens have a right to base the climate of their country off religious beliefs if that's what the majority would like to do. When you give power to minorities, then you are suggesting that the country be shaped after what a minority of people want. For instance, mulsims are a minority in Canada and many would like to have Shariah law in our legal code. I don't not want this happening in my country. Why? No reason. I just don't want it as a citizen. I should have a say in this. Not the minority of people. You have been so used to being professed and dictated to that you think protecting minotities is somehow democratic and right wing. It's not. It's brainwashing from a political party.

Reported! Well that's ok. If I get banned it was because I was sharing my viewpoints that I do not want him in my country. It's because I'm defending the right of the Canadian tax payer. For the record, I never broke any laws regarding him. I never even slandared him. I don't really care about him to be honest... I just want him EXPELLED FROM CANADA and his citizenship revoked completely. His children and relatives too. They can go back home to Syria (because it's those are the countries that they choose to keep their citizenship with) and enjoy the good music and food that only Syria can bring. He can also try to sue his own gov't and see how far he gets with that. Or he can take off the UK and he can become the UK's problem. Either way, I just want him out of Canada not tommorow, not today, but yesterday.

It's not surprising. The alternative would be for them to acknowledge that Stephen Harper is not the person to lead CPC into the next election. Personally I hope that Stephen Harper does lead CPC into the next election since replacing him with a social moderate might actually help the CPC defeat Dion. Don't you know the voting demographics of Canada? Are you referring to the fact that 65% of Canadians vote for social moderates and parties to the left of CPC, i.e., Liberals, BQ, NDP and Greens? That's one start. But there's more voting behaviors to how Canadians vote. Negative add campaigns or how a campaign is run can make or break a US election. In Canada it's a whole other game. We vote down regional lines and ethnic lines. And we vote against parties, not becuase we are in favor of them. You can call 30,000 poeple in Ontario and you'll get the GTA most often. The majority will support Liberal. However, that does not translate into parliment seats. Go to any place outside the GTA and you will find Conservative seats. These polsters should be doing even polling in each riding to get their data. But with only 1000 calls throughout all of Canada, it's not goign to be that accurate. People who are voting CPC now will need REASON to against them. The income trusts is the only scar against Harper. I doubt he'll lose seats over that. The swing seats are in Quebec and possibly some GTA NDP seats. But those aren't going to affect a minority gov't for anyone. Unless harper really screws up, things will stay the same. And I can't stress enough what I'm about to say: The CPC will NOT win a majority gov't unless they get the immigrant vote. It's factual, it's proven, case closed. There's no point even discussing majorities until the immigrants learn who is in power and swings that way. CPC at this point is going to have to create a 'New Canadian Supplement' and basically give each household money in order to bribe all immigrants for votes and claim that they are the good party for immigrants. Unless they do that, I don't ever see them gaining a majority.

What is your single most important issue? I could have added more, but I feel this are the big ones that we're dealing with right now. I was going to put 'infrastructure' but that couldn't be more important than something like healthcare so I left it out. Economy and Taxes is so tempting, but I cast my vote at #4 because I feel it effects all of the above and something needs to be done right now about our immigration policy. A major overhaul needs to take place to better the lives of all Canadians.

Lets see: Good King Mohamed Went to Mecca; Chopped Hands Roasting on an Open Fire; Let Heads Roll (to tune of "Let It Snow"); and last but not least Death to the World And then Mohamed went back home to his semi-detatched hom in Mississauga

THat's what they are. They don't really have a platform, they are about staying in power. Dion never gave one decisive answer in his interview on the CBC. They are about winning elections and making sure the people 'need them' in their lives. Time to give gov't back to the poeple.

Whoah I was just being sarcastic. The thing was a joke. And no I think we have to fund our own hospitals first.

Lol dude I was being sarcastic!

Yes. I type very fast. I also don't check for spelling/grammar mistakes. Over the years of posting on newsgroups then forums you learn how to work efficiently with posting or you can spend 20 min on one message. And I was also asked by someone if he could use my origional post elsewhere! =) so that made it all worth while.

I don't know much about the issue but handing out cash left and right is not the best way of doing it. I'm thinking more along the lines of forking some money over to the provinces and to employers to create enough daycare spaces and then using some sort of an income based approach to distribute the goods. Something along the lines of a refundable tax credit with a clawback for families with working parents - in other words, if mom and dad make $200K each, they don't need financial help and if mom works while dad sits at home watching sports, then they don't need support either. In other words, only parents who have to work to make ends meet should get support. On the other hand, the supply of daycare spaces is insufficient and often the quality is very low - the provinces will have to get their hands dirty in order to change that. It's easiest just to put a couple of portables by the elementry schools and those will become little daycares. It's best just to have universal daycare for all Canadians. I'm just very, very, very confident it won't be run properly and everyones hands will want to dip into the cookie jar. Also, (as I always say) the people using it HAVE TO PAY INTO IT or it wont work. Doing this kind of program would be a major expense. A massive, major, new boon doggle.