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  1. But of course we do. In this system we have exactly two central committees that rule and decide everything. The little faces are there only for decoration, they have no real voice can't vote their mind and conscience on anything. Down below is of course, the central committee system. Well known in history as well.
  2. If this isn't about "LOL" but a serious question (even given the cost), then these would be the logical possibilities: a. Confident evidence emerges for the natural origin hypothesis. None has been presented so far that would match the characteristic of the case. b. Confident evidence is presented for the lab origin. For example, a whistleblower who could testify that work on a Covid precursor with gain of function was indeed conducted in the Wuhan lab. Maybe some samples, would be invaluable to understand how this was developing. Short of these two the chance of which is diminishing with each day that passes, the next one is: c. Strong circumstantial evidence, either way. There's nothing wrong with it. Not all events have written records by intent or fact and many were solved still. In this case, there's quite a body of circumstantial evidence pointing to WIV (as cited); while there isn't any such evidence for the natural origin by the combination of most of the characteristics in one species. Wouldn't it be strange, think of it? if the agent emerged naturally in the place where there were no vaccines, remedies or quarantines, where is it? Why couldn't we find it? And if it doesn't survive or cannot survive in the nature how did it come to exist? And then, there's circumstantial observation of the correlation: should it be the natural origin, then it happening at the same time and in the same geographical place with the cited events has to be a random coincidence. So the hypothesis for which there isn't a strong evidence will need a rare coincidence, plain luck only to stay afloat. On the balance of the weights of the indirect evidence that tips the scale toward artificial origin. Will we ever know for certain? Anybody's guess.
  3. There's an even simpler one: when we limit the choice of the candidates, we reduce the quality of the selection. And when we limit it to the absolute minimum, it is reduced to the lowest level possible. Theoretically. Down below, it cannot be democracy. And even here, some funny odor.. elitism? oligarchy?
  4. "Don't do as I say!" What more could one add about a prolific, pathological liar?
  5. The Republican party of tomorrow? What would Lincoln think? Why are you laughing?
  6. The cult wants to blow up and eliminate impartial and objective justice and with it one of the firmest foundations of the democracy. This is not a fun contest. You know what it means. Everyone making it now does it consciously with full understanding of the possible consequences. Can't say you didn't know.
  7. Maybe this needs to be recorded here, all in the public domain and since a long time. As it would be very unlikely that officially recorded work with an identical to Covid agent was conducted anywhere on this planet before the pandemic, one has to make their decision based on the balance of likelihoods. All cited facts are from referenced reputable sources. FCS = Furin Cleavage Site, a specific genetic sequence in particular in human epithelial cells. WIV = Wuhan Institute of Virology The timeline - First work on enhancing coronavirus with FCS began in 2006 (SARS1 + FCS). By early 2010s the technology was well known. - 2013: WIV (group of Dr. Shi) discovered corona-like RaTG13 virus in bats. It shares over 96% of genome with SARS-Cov. It isolates and published part of the genome. (sd) - 2016-2019: WIV conducts research on corona-like viruses, including gain of function including with FCS: "In 2019, researchers in China inserted a four amino acid furin cleavage site into Infectious Bronchitis coronavirus that affects poultry. WIV also received funding from PRC government agencies for research examining the spillover potential of SARS-related coronaviruses". "The WIV was later terminated as a sub-grantee by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) for failing to produce its laboratory notes and other records relating to these other experiments" (sc) "As part of a thorough inquiry, they (WHO investigators) must have a full accounting of why the WIV altered and then removed online records of its work with RaTG13 and other viruses". (sd) - "By the time the pandemic broke out, her team had created a total of a dozen or so chimeric viruses by swapping WIV1’s spike with its counterpart from newly identified sequences of bat coronaviruses, only a handful of which could infect human cells in a petri dish" "None of the chimeras created in Shi’s labs was closely related to SARS-CoV-2, and therefore, none could have been the cause of the pandemic" (mit). sc: Senate Report on origins of Covid, 2022 sd: State Department report on WIV mit: MIT Technology review, Dr Shi, 2022 The last statement in (mit) seem to contradict the possibility of this work to SARS-Cov but it's not an objective independent assessment rather a statement of WIV. In summary: - work with agents like RaTG13 with proximity to Covid: yes, long time - gain of function research including with human-like FCS: yes, considerable time - construction of artificial "chimerical" agents: yes - additionally, while the full difference between RaTG13 and Covid is significant (over a thousand of nucleotide bases), those in the key areas of the spike protein and FCS count only several dozen. This is entirely feasible in a lab. - China destroyed or attempted to the records related to work with RaTG13. Short of a physical smoking gun that is, an official report and/or sequence of the artificial strain (five years on?) how easy would it be to find more specific evidence pointing to the lab origin?
  8. Really, it's as bizarre as it gets: those who invented this system want to convince the public that a mediocre record of public administration, followed by a sequence of failures - in the sum, failures and losses for the society, can be somehow a good thing ("landslide", right) only because it led the other gang to the power. Just wow. Can nonsense - or a lie be more plain and dumb? And it works, amazingly!
  9. The buzz people who can't tell the difference between vibrations in their brain and the reality and just babble it out like that would make them real won't be of any help in establishing the truth. Of the three pieces of the puzzle: 1) the research was technically possible; 2) it was formulated and considered; 3) it was actually happening two are confirmed so it's down to the last one. And if it was, sure a huge effort would have gone into eliminating all records given the scale of the consequences. Still, some traces could remain. If the last piece is determined as plausible, the coincidence of place and time; and the absence of evidence for the alternative would make it by far more grounded hypothesis.
  10. The dead buzz crowd doesn't want you to think and choose for yourself. You only have to decide what you do.
  11. Not true: because the factual evidence that such a research a) was technically possible and b) was actually proposed cannot be denied. The coincidence in time the research topic was at least discussed with the pandemic is a fact that cannot be denied. Other circumstantial evidence, like sick workers also coincidental with the pandemic. This has to be stacked against the evidence for the alternative hypothesis that is: none. No possible animal host was found so far and maybe there's a reason for that: it would have to have very specific makeup of a certain genetic sequence identical to human epithelial cells (that is, nasal channels, throat and lungs). Just another coincidence? This is the balance of arguments as of today. If - and again, hypothetically any such project was being developed, it would be unwise to do it in a developed democratic country due to high risk of leak/whistleblowing but what would be another near-perfect location, close to the source and very far from any chance of control or transparency? And after it was free in the world, would one focus on understanding the novel agent and intelligent means to control it - or throw in the air fear and panic distracting from the questions about its origin? There are a few too many strange events and developments around this purportedly entirely natural event. Doesn't seem very natural, no? The reported toll of the pandemic came to over seven million worldwide. This is on the scale of the world wars I and II. Loss of uncounted public wealth, a world-wide recession, disruption of the economy, the inflation that followed. Is it too little and insignificant to expect some meaningful answers?
  12. Full data for independent and transparent verification of work done on bat viruses before the pandemic has not been made available by China and US (also an insightful piece in its own right): "EHA, UNC, NIH, USAID, and other research partners have failed to disclose their activities to the US scientific community and the US public, instead declaring that they were not involved in any experiments that could have resulted in the emergence of SARS-CoV-2. The NIH has specifically stated (6) that there is a significant evolutionary distance between the published viral sequences and that of SARS-CoV-2 and that the pandemic virus could not have resulted from the work sponsored by NIH. Of course, this statement is only as good as the limited data on which it is based, and verification of this claim is dependent on gaining access to any other unpublished viral sequences that are deposited in relevant US and Chinese databases (7,8). On May 11, 2022, Acting NIH Director Lawrence Tabak testified before Congress that several such sequences in a US database were removed from public view, and that this was done at the request of both Chinese and US investigators." While this fact in itself seriously undermines the possibility of objective and transparent investigation into the origin of the pandemic, the combination of the two statements, that according to the cited appear to be confirmed facts makes it harder to dismiss the possibility of the human-contributed origin: 1. That some work on similar viruses has been done right at the time X. 2. The governments of China and US including the agencies were not fully forthcoming and transparent about the exact nature of this work. And this coincidence is even more troubling. If DARPA did not approve it in the public records, can any firm conclusion be made that it did not happen? 3. We do know that the insertion of such FCS sequences into SARS-like viruses was a specific goal of work proposed by the EHA-WIV-UNC partnership within a 2018 grant proposal (“DEFUSE”) that was submitted to the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) "We also know that that this research team would be familiar with several previous experiments involving the successful insertion of an FCS sequence into SARS-CoV-1 (26) and other coronaviruses, and they had a lot of experience in construction of chimeric SARS-like viruses (27–29). In addition, the research team would also have some familiarity with the FCS sequence and the FCS-dependent activation mechanism of human ENaC α (19), which was extensively characterized at UNC (17, 18). For a research team assessing the pandemic potential of SARS-related coronaviruses, the FCS of human ENaC—an FCS known to be efficiently cleaved by host furin present in the target location (epithelial cells) of an important target organ (lung), of the target organism (human)—might be a rational, if not obvious, choice of FCS to introduce into a virus to alter its infectivity, in line with other work performed previously." And we also know that scientists with an idea of an exciting project and the experience to execute it couldn't be easily discouraged by a single failed grant application and would likely look for other opportunities. To summarize: - Many disturbing coincidences around COV virus work right around the time of the emergence of the pandemic. - Governments not being fully transparent. - And no firm evidence supporting the natural origin.
  13. The same story is unrolling almost simultaneously in two of the last vestiges of the binary "winner takes all" political system in the democratic world. The pattern is painfully familiar: a government soaked and drenched in unchecked power, with no effective controls or accountability goes through a series of throes before loosing all connection with the reality and the people. A "landslide" then? nope. Not a chance. F-ups don't make and aren't even close to merit even if they are those of the opponent. They made appear as such only and exclusively by the setup of the system, where only two valid options exist so there's no objective standard of performance and you only just have to do a dust grain better than the other guy - or just wait till he's bored and tired. In the reality however, there can be no connection, exactly zero, between the merit of side A and the failures of its opponent. Obvious? James's mess doesn't mean that Ian is a genius! How hard can it be? But the mystery lives on, if only in this one area of our collective life. More, they will probably end up being almost identical twins of each other, for one good reason: they do not have any meaningful incentive to improve when they are guaranteed the prize, sooner or later not if, when. An equal competition in a group of peers where some are fully focused and incentivized to achieve their best is nothing like this tired pantomime, OK let's show something but most importantly, wait for our buddy's f-up. It's gonna happen, sooner or later. There are only two of us at this trough: one, two me or you and f-ed be all who want a different choice, any different. Of course there can be no miracles in this universe of logic and empirical fact. And then, this is the prime reason for the debilitating decline of function that can be observed in all relics of it what remain in the modern world. Change, adaptation, progress is the law of life and evolution. Nothing lasts forever and nothing can be best, forever. Something what was OK in the 18th century is not a match for the 21st. And those who just wouldn't get it will go the way of the dinosaurs, sooner or later. This is also a law of the evolution.
  14. One is fully responsible for their conscious choices: it's as simple as that. Not a lottery; not a fun game. The future of the democracy, and the country. So, no explanations or excuses. Today, no chance to claim innocence by ignorance.
  15. One cannot support an authoritarian cult bent on nullifying and destroying independent and impartial justice and with it, one of the main foundations of democracy. The choice is individual one and it cannot be avoided. More than an election choice that can be made in a number of ways, anyone who values their independence, integrity and principles will have to reflect, should the party decide to support a convicted felon and a pathological liar. There's nothing common or normal about these events. The history shows that most of the time this authoritarian tunnel goes one way. There are no causes that call or justify parting with integrity and giving in to insanity. It is only, and always: a choice.
  16. Well it would help to first try to understand what it is and is not, before going into a full drive headless chicken mode. Intelligent people did just that and look. Or how would we even know? If only from the media horror stories?
  17. We're closing on the fifth anniversary of the pandemic and given the amount of research invested in this direction and the absence of convincing results, it may still progress to the status of "a speculation" some way down this path.
  18. The aftermath of the process only confirms that the decision to apply law equally to all citizens was 100% correct. At least now anyone who would consider supporting the convicted felon as the president and his cult would know exactly who, and what they're choosing. There will be no way to avoid the direct and personal responsibility for this choice. Not "just another candidate" game, that's long past now: the history's first. Loudmouth, aggressive and revengeful authoritarian cult. The decision to associate with it is the individual and conscious one. The history shows and tells us that. There will be no excuses and explanations.
  19. We were in luck this time that it wasn't the real thing. This bunch of f-up experts wouldn't have a clue what to do while half of the country would be in camps under military law. "Covid is not a danger for our system" OK, "As governments scrambled to make the idea of locking down regular life palatable throughout the Covid-19 pandemic, Sweden refused, opting for a “voluntary” approach to dealing with the spread. The nation of 10.4 million kept schools from closing throughout the biggest waves of the virus’ spread and did not mandate masks." The result, excess mortality: Sweden 6.8%; Canada 7.3-7.5. Nope: can't replace working brain.
  20. This is actually a great point: apples to apples. Is there a credible citation for these statistics?
  21. Don't give away your brain: it never, ever like every single time it was attempted, pays.
  22. And again: not just the people. People cannot changed, genes, the DNA. And people are programmable, period. Your pour propaganda with no checks or limits for so long and 80-90% will accept it. Empirical fact, done. The only thing that can be attempted in this makeup is to prevent monopoly: on anything, information included and in this age, primarily and foremost. The one, and only hope.
  23. No: not only the people. The majority will give in to massive, ongoing day after day propaganda. Particularly, that of fear and hate has proven effective: yes, remember "antivaxxers" and horror, horror stories, on public channels? No controls. Run it 24/7 then wonder at the "approval" ratings. Goebbels already knew that trick.
  24. Sure. Silent majorities are common, like a staple in the third world countries. Could there be a connection? Correlation perhaps?
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