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Throwing the accusation of racism against me or anyone will not deflect from the weakness of your comments that I challenged and you have no idea how to respond to. Provide one post from me, one sentence where I as you say "tried to show "Muslims as Nazis and Israelis as victims". It doesn[t matter who the tag team name of the moment is on this forum and this thread who continually throw that accusation out at me, none of "you" have ever been able to back up your accusation. The reference "fact is people" is another deflection by you. We are discussing your opinions but you try deflect and refer to "people". You interchange your identity with a plural one. That is because you show herd mentality or what I call pack mentality. You believe in so doing, plurality gives you credibility-strength in numbers as some say. The fact is there are people that will agree with you and people who will not. Using the reference "people" to try suggest more people agree with you than I and therefore your subjective opinions have merit is herd mentality, and its pathetic. Get this clear, I speak for me not Argus,. You and whatever name in the moment says on this thread has shown that in one breath you will make negative generalized stereotype smeers against Jews, Israelis, Zionists and me for being Jewish in one breath while whining you feel all Arabs are unfairly generalized about unfairly in the next breath is a joke. The tag team name of the moment making you "plural" , has it made you look credible?. Does calling yourself Hudson Jones, Kactus, make a difference? f Lol You think so? You think the tag team wacka Jew routine has worked? Lol/ Do you think calling me a racist means sweet phack all when this thread has been exposed for what it was always intended, an excuse to attack and insult any Jew that doesn't think like you and to try shut down Argus or I calling us racists for challenging you for being one? Lol. Yah man, you don't look like a Jew. Lol. Go on say it. Spit it out-RUE I DO NOT LOOK LIKE A JEW. You want to call me a racist? Lol. I LOVE IT One last ting, your hatred doesn't victimize anyone let alone this Jew or any Jew.. It empowers us. Everytime you utter contempt for the Jewish political collective identity, you empower it and show why formed one to defend ourselves as an existential response to your hatred. Your hatred against a Jewish political collective or Jews or anyone, in the grand scheme of things is a fart. I doubt it adds to much to the green house effect. You are just a bunch of arm chair wannabe jihadists playing wacka Jew on a forum that inherently enables your ability to hide yourself behind masks. Lol. Bring it.

Gosh Who saw that coming. The tag team names of the moment, the attempts to bait, the attempt to now play god Jew bad Jew with me, its been done, its spent and the fact you have to use different names to try engage in it is past pathetic. The more you attack me for being a Jew the more you prove what the agenda is on this forum. This was never a discussion about Netanyahu-this is a pretense to attack any Jew who disagrees with you and suggest by not agreeing with you they are a bad Jew. Pathetic. Transparent, Snively. Bigoted. Go on spew. Lol. http://rationalwiki.org/Wiki/Evil_Jew

No your article did not belong on this thread it has nothing to do with Netanyahu being a racist, but what the hell right Wes, if its an opportunity to piss on Israel, just throw it on the mound of crap right? Uh Yah you didn't notice how your article had nothing to do with the thread or what this thread has turned into right? A couple of things. Area C is deeply contested on the West Bank and right now in the Israeli courts the entire process of how permits are or are not being granted for both housing, schools and other construction projects is being dealt with. There is no doubt the process has been politically unfair to Palestinians. Even the IDF has said so although they have no political say. In fact Jewish right wing religious parties that Netanyahu depends on to stay in power may be a lot to do with how the system is being handled and often unfairly to Palestinians. Next you infer not based on Israeli state policy, but your subjective preconceived bias against Israel, hat it doesn't consider education importat. Horseshit. You invented that inference. The fact there is a dispute over who owns the land does not mean school and education is not considered important by anyone. Next the fact you take an issue as to dispute over land title to advance the false inference that Israel demolished the schools because it considered them a threat is horseshit. It demolished them over a political dispute as to who owns the land. Next if you knew anything about how the Middle East works and what goes in in schools across the Middle East you would not play the smug Canadian and assume schools are only fool of harmless children and those horrible evil Israelis are afraid of Palestinian children shame on them. Yah you can't possibly fathom what actually goes in in schools on the West Bank other than sing alongs. Excuse me but you again show your Liberal, the world must all be like it is in your back yard horseshit bias. http://unwatch.org/130-page-report-unrwa-teachers-incite-terrorism-anti-semitism This is not Canada. don't presume it is. In case you haven't noticed the PA on the West Bank has declared it will never stop until it takes back all of Jordan and Israel. Same with Hamas in the Gaza. Until Palestinians disarm terrorists and agree to recognize Israeli as a Jewish state, it won't concede an inch on the West Bank. Its in a state of war. That's why, hard as that is for you to believe.

For anyone who actually reads this response who is not Jewish and bothers to read this a Jewish person would never refer to themselves as a "Jew", let alone a Jew to another Jewish person. For that matter we Jewish people would never tell another Jewisg person we are Jewish, why would we need to do that? If you are curious about why we Jews don't use the word Jew or call ourselves that: .http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/jew-jewish-whats-the-difference/ As for the attempt to pose as a Jew with me, he was trying desperately to bait me into this pathetic argument: https://rationalwiki.org/Evil_Jew The problem with Ghost and whatever in the moment anti semite name it is responding to me, "they" don't tend to be very good at their taunts. They use the same stale taunts over and over Here's an excellent article that summarizes the cognitive processes of the GhostHackeds of this forum: http://www.salon.com/2014/07/27/this_is_your_brain_on_racism_inside_the_mind_of_modern_bigotry/

You don't and you demonstrate it in your pathetic anti semitic baiting. The more you defend your anti Semitism and your pathetic passive aggressive baiting the more you show why you are on this forum.

When "you and Ghost " respond to me you s imply prove what anti semitic bafoons "you two" are. Argus rightfully pointed out and I support his contention that there is no physical difference between Jews and Arabs and for that matter between both and other peoples. You now continue to argue he is racist because he won't buy into your racist bullshit that Jews and Arabs look different. Finish it. Finish what you started,. Explain how we Jews we look different to Arabs let alone other peoples. Go on finish it.. Please show how you arrive at your racist stereotype conclusions about Jew and Arab pyhsical characteristics. I call you oout again as a racist who can't stand the notion you let alone other Muslims or Arabs could look Jewish. Next, in one breath you whine and play the victim because Argus suggests Arabs and Muslims engage in herd mentality then in the very next breath you call me an Israeli and refer to Israel as MY government. Wy, for one reason only because I am a Jew. You show what an anti semite you are. You have no problems stereotyping me and placing me in a herd. Because I am a Jew and believe Jews have the right to express themselves as a political collective it automatically in your bigoted mind makes me an Israeli. Horseshit and shove the stereotype. I already had Ghost tell me to go back to Israel. I've had Altai and Taxme and other bigots on this board call me Israeli and refer to Israel as "my country". Shove your bigotry. You are the first to come on this board and whine when someone stereotypes all Muslims and Arabs but you do the exact same thing about Jews. Do me a favour, shove your bigotry and double standard in which you support apartheid Muslim sharia law states and call Israel in the next breath fascist. Israel allows Arab Israelis, Muslim Israelis their own religious and family laws, the right to own land, the right to elect members in the Knesset, attend the exact same hospitals, get free schooling and be represented by over 125 human rights organizations with free lawyers not to mention an open and free press. You call that fascist and yet have you once called Iran, Egypt Syria, Iraq, any Arab country fascist? What horseshit. You engage in double standards precisely because you are a bigot. Next Your comment that the West takes a one sided view on the Middle East is a tired, stale and idiotic anti semitic canard that Jews control the media. All one has to do is go on the internet to see the number of anti Jewish, anti-Semitic and anti Israel web sites to know how full of shit that comment is let alone how the media in Europe and the wire services have run false stories about Israel. You want to spew out anti semitic canards as if they are fact, i.e., the media is controlled by Jews, I answer it simply-horseshit. Next the fact the entire Arab League refuses to recognize the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state does not make that decision right, but it does show your herd mentality, the very mentality Argus mentions about Israel in which you argue plurality decides whether a refusal to recognize Israel makes it right. In your opinion plurality justifies bigotry against Jews. No it does not. The fact the Arab world shares an anti Israel psychosis shows a herd mentality not merit. It demonstrates the very herd mentality that forced Palestinians into refufee camp and deliberately refused them citizenship in their countries. Its the same herd mentality you embrace that does not allow you to say ONE iota of criticism towards the Arab League for imprisoning Palestinians. Next you lecture me that I won't say something good about an Arab country when you don't dare say anything negative about them or positive about Israel. You expect one standard from me while demonstrating the exact opposite standard against me. Finally I have and continue to criticize specific Israeli policies unlike you with the PA, Hamas Hezbollah, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria, on and on. The difference between us is unlike you I have actually placed that criticism in writing and don't claim to as you do but never have. You've never written a damn thing positive about Israel, its right to exist as a Jewish state, its right to defend its people against terrorism, and you never will. Your script won't allow it. So spare the preaching and accusing me or Argus or anyone else of being unfair to Muslims. On last thing, you, Eye, Ghost, Altai, Hudson Hones, I don't give a shit what name you/they use at the moment, state Israel is my government, and/or I should go back there, etc., I will call you out as engaging in anti Jewish bigotry. Go on then, ask Eye what a typical Jew is and start a thread on typical Jews with him and Ghost Hacked and explain what a typical Jew is and how we control the media. Discuss with Hudson Jones why I have cancer that needs to be wiped out because I believe Jews have a right to a collective political identity. Go on explain your racist crap as to how we look physically different. Taxme can help you. Then have Altai explain what a Kafir is. .

Carly Simon is a Jewess. You might want to try something more appropo like Skullhead.

Understandable given that so many of you liberals are mental health patients. I wouldn't worry. I am pretty sure Argus does not give enemas only electro-shock therapy. Trust me you won't remember a thing. Its like ZAP then Yabba Dabba Doo. Regards, Fred, Dino, Barney, Bam-Bam

Speaking of thread drift...what does the Catholic school board and its policy of only hiring Catholics (not just any Christians but Catholics) have to do with the thread? Here let's put it back on track.Trudeau is a whore and bigot apologist. He panders to bigots if they are non white, gay or women for votes. We see that every day. We see that with him, his party and Liberals. Its nothing new. Liberals think their shit don't stink. They think their supporting bigots and discriminatory totalitarian beliefs is righteous. There is Lord Justin sitting in a Mosque with extremist anti semites, bigoted against all religions but their version of Islam, sexist and homophobic, dressed like a man of the desert, pretending to be T.E. Lawrence, the next minute, oops there he is in his uniform pink shirt and white bumb bum pants prancing at a gay pride parade or two or three or four or five or whatever. No disconnect there for Lord Justin. Liberals t imagine their beliefs taken to their extreme create either communism or fascism in the name of progress and elightenment through the state whereas with extremist conservatives the worst you get are libertarians or anarchists. Never met an anarchist who had a sense of direction and therefore was capable of following instructions although they do scream a lot especially in the Italian legislative assembly.

Why only dark skinned? What are you suggesting that there are no light skinned immigrants? No it just seems that way. I saw a couple of them once. I think they came from Poland. Your point means what? You think people are anti immigrant only because immigrants are not white? That's as bigoted assumption is it not or does bigotry only apply when it has nothing to do with white people? Where were you when Micks, Ukes, Kikes, Waps, Krouts who came to Canada were being spit at? You think anti-immigration is only because of race issues. Horse crap. It has to do with many conflicts not just skin colour. Skin colour or the race card is what you play to shut down the debate about immigration. I am not a racist because I am concerned about the criteria for qualification to be an immigrant. I am not a racist because I am concerned some people may bring their bigoted intolerance with them and demand it be allowed based on the Charter guaranteeing them religious freedom. I am not a racist or a bigot if I believe fundamentalist Islam is incompatible with many of our democratic values that we fought hard to achieve. No I do not want a society that covers the faces of women, demands they be treated second class, and teaches its children people of other religions are inferior infidel kafir dhimmi the same reason I don't want neo Nazis coming in, Boca Raton coming in from Nigeria, Iranian terrorist sympathizers and so on. No people doin't get to hide behind their race or religion card if they are undemocratic, intolerance, violent or assholes or a combo of these. I have the right to say something. But thanks, I know you have never ever in your life had any biases against any people

I already did repeatedly in many posts. Everyone of us is. Again you try engage me in a passive aggressive comment because you don't think you are an anti-semite You want to tell me to go back to Israel again? Go on. Say it. Or do yourself a favour, stop circling back to me trying to catch me on things you are too slow to comprehend let alone develop insight on. Instead of asking me if I am a bigot look at yourself in the mirror. Start there. This is precisely your problem. You think your shit does not stink and you can constantly point at others and not yourself. I have never denied I have biases like you. I don't hide my ethnicity. I don't hide my biases. I don't tell Muslims to go back to Saudi Arabia or Iran. I don't smeer all Muslims because some are terrorists as you do all Zionists and as you do all Israeli citizens. Run along and bait someone else. My role with you is simply to tell you do do your fly up and stop pointing. The short-comings you show everytime you point was not caused by you being circumcissed that we know..

Omni you again missed the legal point of raising to the Supreme Court of Canada the issue as to whether the dirty hands doctrine and section in the constitution as to peace, order and good government could be argued to successfully establish a precedent that governments must be responsible for their wrong-doings but at the same time any Canadian engaging in an act of wrong-doing can not personally be financially compensated for that act. You deliberately refuse to acknowledge this issue and the legal reference was not purused as a deliberate premeditated political decision by Trudeau who openly sympathized with Kadr. Trudeau put his own feelings in front of the greater good of Canada. Without that reference brought to the court which Trudeau should have done, not withstanding his personal bias in favour of Kadr, , and without a ruling as to that issue, there has been deliberately created by Trudeau a wide open appearance that any terrorist whose charter rights are violated can now get personal financial compensation. In the absence of that reference this government has sent out a message saying financial compensation was appropriate. That was not Trudeau's decision to make-it was the Supreme Court's, and without that reference, they can't initiate an answer on their own and Trudeau knew this.. You keep making the argument Trudeau didn't go for the reference because he would have had to pay more. Pay more what? He just did n t want Kadr NOT getting compensated. It had nothing to do with fiscal prudence and everything to do with political partisanship and placating Omar Alleghbra his Middle East advisor and open Hamas and Al Quaeda supporter. How do you argue his decision not to make the reference is based on fiscal prudence? To start with in constitutional law, nuisance value, i.e., the cost of the law suit is not and has never been considered a reason not to make a constitutional reference, If that was the case, there would never be any. Next in very fee constitutional cases is an individual ever given compensation. In fact when it has been awarded its been for an entire group of people and often the amounts have only been symbolical or token. It's insulting for aboriginals for example to believe after over 150 years of trying to get compensation they are owed, all Kadr had to do was commit an illegal act overseas as a terrorist then suddenly play his Canadian card to get compensation far faster than they. It is insulting to war veterans to sit now for many years if not two world wars, Korea, Serbia, Cyprus, Rwanda-Malawi and now Afghanistan and not get proper compensation but Kadr does. It's insulting Kadr was defined as being more worthy, i.e., entitled to more compensation then the aboriginal survivors of the reformatory system. It's about priorities and appearance of fairness not just fiscal cost and in this case to have anybody believe Trudeau is fiscally concerned about any cost when he has placed this country in a severe debt whose interest rates are going to trigger high private loan expenses and daage the economy let alone trigger inflation and leave future generations saddled with this debt, is a joke. But hey spin away. Yesterday Kadr whined that he has too much restrictions posted on him and he wants to be able to meet his sister alone whenever she wants. This is a woman who openly says she supports Al Quaeda and violence against Canada. This is a woman who lost her passport over 6 times and frequently travels to Egypt, Turkey and is believed to be in constant contact with terrorists and using Canada as a convenience sit to raise funds for terrorists. Oar had the audacity to say just because his sister is a terrorist doesn't mean it will influence him. Kadr is playing this country for the joke it is. He claims he is now going to study nursing in a college in Red Deer, Alberta. The last time he was in college he lasted a few weeks and then flunked out. Yah right, with my luck I will end up in an old age home with Omar coming in to do the enema. Not a chance.

Dialamah as usual I was just being rhetorical of course for the sake of simply arguing all this ethnic crap can be argued either way. I think you are far more trusting and tolerant of peoples' motives than I am and I respect you for that. I just see everyone as equally bigoted in their own way and obviously you know I do not think highly of Trudeau so its certainly a bias that may flavour my take on issues you may be more impartial about. I concede that.

Yes he's demonstrated that with his Siekh member of Parliament who is accused of sexual harassment and he does sweet phack all but when it was to white mp's boom they were out of caucus with no investigation. Why the double standard?. My answer is he does not want to alienate the Siekh community because Trudeau is a racist bastard and believes Siekhs are too, i.e., will put their ethnicity ahead as a priority to proper ethical behaviour with women. This is what Liberalism is all about and the double standard is there for all to see. If women buy into this sob's feminist act they are naïve. He's a manipulative eunuch.

Interesting as this thread continues Trudeau is faced with a Siekh member of Parliament accused of sexual harassement and the double standard is there for all to see. If this individual was not a visible minority would he still be in caucus? Its a question many are asking today. Certainly his treatment of this mp differs from the two other mp's he expelled immediately. Why the difference? Feminist my ass. He pampers to ethnics to get votes and he dares not alienate one of his minority mp's particularly in Calgary where he has few MP's and when he thinks it may negatively impact on his love by ethnic communities. He's a two faced manipulator and he's a racist. His entire ideology is based on appealing to ethnics to place their ethnicity I n a hyphen and in interests before the word Canadian and to vote based on that ethnic interest first. Then he plays feel good messages that make it sound like he fairs that ethnic group when in side he could care less as long as he gets them to vote for him. No I would not join the golf course where Trudeau decides the membership. I would take a golf club and shove it up his racist ethnic pandering buttox. Thanks I'll go down the street and play street hockey-there the shmucks like me come in all sizes, colours and shapes and no one gives a damn what we are as long as you can play.

Do you. To start with you clearly did not understand what I wrote. You first stated as a generalization that people do not trust government (politicians). My response to that was that people who claim not to trust politicians of course trust them-they are more than willing to buy into their crap again and again if that same lying politician(s) they say they don't trust, tells them what they want to hear and as an example I mentioned the Wynne re-election in Ontario. The women represented a government caught red handed lying and she was still voted back in. When people buy into government, they BELIEVE something that was said otherwise they wouldn't vote for that government. The reality is and you missed the point, all citizens say they don't like or believe in their governments, but still vote for them. Its what we do, bitch and complain and hate our governments and then when these same governments promise us something, bam we vote them back in. This is why Wynne as we speak in Ontario after jacking energy prices sky high because of her mismanagement now lies and pretends she's lowering prices on energy and its working surveys say people bought her advertising campaign that she lowered energy prices. The masses couldn't figure out energy costs went down this summer because of colder weather and that her carbon tax takes back anything she claims to have given back. Yes people are stupid. Its what politics is about, manipulating through the media the message and that manipulation works and its not very difficult. Trump won an election simply based on engaging in the same kind of rhetoric Mussolini used. Mussolini would send spotters into the crowd, find out what was bothering people, then they'd report back, Mussolini would then scream out everything bothering everybody and promising to do something about it, and then off to the next village he went never doing anything and it worked. Hitler controlled an entire nation based on rhetoric reinventing Germans as a super-people and they bought into it and these were supposedly the most civilized and cultured of all Europeans. Japan was a nation of Shintoism and Bhuddism, enlightened disciplined methods of doing things and it too succumbed to the most basic of jingoistic messags. History has taught us time and time again people buy into the message. Just tell them what they want to hear and they snatch it up. Here is the point. No one no matter how gullible they are deserve to be conned, robbed, abused, exploited. Good government should be measured by objective criteria as to positive deeds carried out and conflicts resolved. None of us deserve political crap even though we ask for it.

Can men NOT be feminists? Can whites not be oppressors? Can Muslims not be terrorists? Where do we go with this? You think Trudeau is a feminist because he surrounds himself with women? Is he enlightened because he has hired 5 gay cabinet ministers, an immigrant refugee as the Immigration Minister and a pro Hamas terrorist synpathizer as his Middle East advisor? Where you going? I have the distinct opinion Trudeau is far from a feminist, he just can't handle straight men in his cabinet unless they are visible minorities. So whose opinion is more valid? You think he is progressive? I think he's a passive aggressive, narcissist who plays the role of saviour-he started with saving his mother, now its Canada and everyone in it. Problem is he's no messiah. In his mind he is, and he needs to be seen as a saviour but he's no Messiah. With all children brought up having to save a parent, they breed a passive, repressed resentment for anyone weak they feel they have to protect. You will see that come out the moment his saviour routine is rejected by a specific group. Its already showing. When aboriginals sat in a tent in Ottawa, he rushed to that tent, posed then came out not discussing their issues but talking all about himself being the first Prime Minister to go into a tend and talk to the Indians. It was all about Trudeau posing as Bwana to the savages. The veneer is thin. Very thin. It will blow off when visible minorities he thinks owe him, turn on him and turn on him they will-the pie in the sky utopia he presents to them as HIS Canada does not exist. The reality takes a year to 3 years to sink in before those who fell for it riot and engage in outward expressions of violence and frustration.

Its said all the time. You aint telling him anything he hasn't heard a thousand times, i.e., the racist assumption whites are privileged and control Canada. Its fair play. Leftists do it all the time with whites. Leftists continually assume because I am a Jew and a Zionist I hate Muslims Arabs, am a terrorist, run Hollywood, the media, banks. Every group has stereotypes against them. If someone has a vested interest in an issue its fair play. When you assign a Somali refugee as Immigration Minister its as fair play to ask whether that impacts on his impartiality as it is assuming if he's white and wasp or has a penis he'd be insensitive or unqualified for positions. Where do we run with this political correctness because I have to argue its being done by all sides and its become acceptable to stereotype against white males and I am hear to say its fair game to question anyone on whether they have vested interests that make them impartial. That said don't lump me in with Taxme. I don't see anyone as a victim for being held accountable for their biases once elected-of any skin colour. I also want to know why there is no Jewish cabinet Minister. Am I allowed? Am I allowed to know why Trudeau chose a Palestinian Canadian with pronounced pro Hamas views as his Middle East advisor or is that racist or unfair? Do you think choosing the Immigration Minister was not ethnic pandering just as making sure cabinet is 50-50 is gender pandering? Are people being appointed because they are gay, black, Siekh, etc.? If there is an appearance of pandering and not choosing someone because of merit you bet it should be challenged. Trudeau is a panderer. To deny he is-is bull crap. He is crass at it. He is clumsy at it. I wouldn't if I was asked have anything to do with him precisely because he exploits minority status for votes. Treat me as you would anyone else or not at all. That's my opinion. I think its a dogs breakfast of a topic. The Justice Minister was qualified. Her being a woman and aboriginal was immaterial. That said I hate her decision to allow Trudeau to have prevented a proper legal question brought to the Supreme Court of Canada as to dirty hands with Kadr. Doesn't make me a racist for saying I consider her a sell out and allowing politics to interfere with the neutrality of her job. In regards to the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs, what the hell should one ask? Now Trudeau has picked two white women. Why didn't he pick an aboriginal? He picked a refugee as Immigration Minister. Why noy? You think it an accident-it was not. No aboriginal would dare touch the post and now he has two Ministers for one cabinet post and you see nothing pandering about that or strange who he chooses and how he's divided their work? Do you think a Somali refugee Immigration Minister will say to Somalis they can't come to Canada? Come on. Trudeau had no problem placing two rich privileged white women in the job who know sweet phack all about aboriginals. Can I question that or because they are women their vaginas prevent calling the white elitists? Where do we go with this?

The passive aggressive reference is to be expected and in it you show again that you are a narcissist and define issues on this board by your subjective feelings. Here let me put it in simple terms for you, what the phack do your feelings for me have to do with the issues? None. If you think people should care or do care that you need to couch your lack of respect or liking me, that makes you delusionary. Better still why not form a group with other "Rue haters". Meet once a week and discuss you victimization by Rue and express ideas on how you can help each other overcome your injuries. Call it "Survivors of Rue Group". I think you should be the first to stand up and say, " I am a victim of Ruisms and I stand here to affirm myself, I am a good person." Make sure to bring the "depends " because when you get moved, you'll be glad you depended on those depends. Was that too cryptic for you?. " What a putz. He sits on his Ducati, revs the engine, the bike kicks, and he falls off flat on his ass. Then he cries and says a Jew must have tampered with his bike." Rue 8888889

You construct and respond to me with generalizations no different than the ones Argus has. Do you call yourself a racist? Look in the mirror. I do. I don't necessarily like what I see, do you? By the way nowhere in any post have I claimed to be an expert on anything I do state again, my having lived with both Israelis and Palestinians and Beduins, gives me a perspective the internet will not provide you and I challenge people who have never been to a country or met its people challenging the right of those people to exist. What I have said is you have never met an Israeli, you have never lived in Israel, you've never been to Gaza, the West Bank, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and the West Bank, I have. Its why I have contempt for two posters on this board who posed as if they have. Had they been to these countries, as I have, they would not be extolling the differences between any of these peoples and choosing sides. You choose sides precisely for that reason. There is no right or wrong side in the Middle East that is what people know who have been there and lived there. There just is a never ending disagreement between thousands of groups for many reasons and this disagreements come and go continuously as different shapes in the sand form. The wind blows and the disagreements form and just as suddenly vanish. No disagreement is permanent just as no sand dune is. That analogy I give you is identical in Jewish, Muslim and Christian ideology of the Middle East and its a lesson all people living in hostile envirionments desert or not, understand. Its outsides who insist on trying to blow on the sand thinking it will change things.

That is the only point Argus was saying and I supported. Each region of each Arab country, each village for hat matter differ within the Arab world to Arabs who would tell you there are huge differences but to a non Arab they could never get that. People in Canada have no idea that Syria for example has been engulfed in wars between its villages, between families in the same religious sects let alone people from other sects for THOUSANDS of years and its lead to in-breeding, i.e., people only marrying first cousins which in turn has caused congenital illnesses like Guillen-Barre syndrome. No one wants to talk about the practice of marrying first cousins across the Muslim world and its impact bio-genetically. Its not racism to say that. Its not racism to say there is a herd mentality. Please don't anyone tell me that the Muslim world did not and still does not demonstrate a herd m entality about Jews and Israel. Its a fact. The group psychosis that rejects Israel as a Jewish state and Jews as a collective equal to Muslims is a widespread and common fact even with moderate Muslims. I am not racist if I say fundamentalist Jews, fundamentalist Muslims fundamentalist Christians, anyone who follows an ideology or religion to strictly becomes a sheep in aherd which was the point of Argus. The point is extremist breeds sheep who form in crowds supporting populist leaders spewing out hatred and using scapegoats. Interesting the same Kactus who screams about racism sees nothing wrong negatively stereotyping Americans, Israelis, Jews who support Israel, Trump suporters. Am I a racist saying Trump's popularity is based on cultivating a herd mentality. Of course it is and that does not make me a racist or Argus who has said the same thing. The word racist and racism is thrown out on this board with Argus to try shut him up when he makes generalizations about Arabs absolutely no different than how Kactus or the other piss on Israel contributors make about Israelis and Jews and my favourite Eye makes about his mythical monster the "conservatives" or Taxme does with anyone with a sun tan or Jews or another poster does about anyone he disagrees with or Altai calling me a Kafir or GhostHacked telling to go back to Israel or Hudson Jones telling me my thoughts are cancerous and need to be wiped out because I am Zionist or Ghost smeering the entire nation of Israel and Israelis because some Israelis make a living showing how Israelis fight terrorists. The smeers and negative stereotypes on this board go on daily and Kactus only seems to get his nose out of joint when it comes to "Arabs" and this is what I challenged. I have challenged Argus and anyone else on this board making NEGATIVE generalizations about an entire group just as I have everyone else. To say Arabs have a herd mentality about certain political issues is a fact. Its not derogatory its a fact no different than Liberals in this country do about Trudeau and his ideology or some consider Zionists do about Israel. Its fair game on this forum and the selective righteousness I do not buy. I do not buy people staying silent on generalizations until it onlyu impacts on their own ethnic group. I say it again-Argus unlike Kactus holds everyone to the same standard of criticism, Kactus does not. This does not mean I agre with Argus or anyone stating all Muslims are terrorists all Arabs hate Jews, all Zionists are terrorists, on and on. Kactus can shove the self righteous crap and trying to suggest I was disagreeing with Spanky. On one level our ethnicities of course are different but on race, I won't buy into the bullshit we look different. Its crap. Race is a subjective social construct created back in an era where secondary physical characteristics were thought to define people's differences so we defined peopleby their skin colour, nose shape, hair texture. Genetics, biology andmany other fields of science have gone on to prove these secondary characteristics are meaningless. You can have a coal black African with purple skin and a pale white Swede with blue eyes thyat have more in common genetically than that Swede and other white Swede or that African with another African. Semites that means people who originated from the Middle East, i.e., Jews, the descendants of Arabian peoples who were not Jewish, d o share the same blood type, it doesn't mak them a race or different races. Todays Arabs are a mixed people. There physical make up is mix of anything from coal black to pale white to every physical characteristic there is and the same goes for Jews and any other people on this planet. You want to get accurate, then understand most of us are the result of rape from war mixing genetic pools. Race my ass. Look at the word they use for Caucasian. It as taken by white Europeans who came across people in the Caucasus mountain region. Caucasian peoples are in fact Turks, Jews, certain Arabs, people of every skin colour, etc. Go look it up. Mongoloids the term of race used for Chinese, Japanese, South Korean was created because it was felt all these people originated from the Mongolian planes. That's why the word was used. Not all Asians come from the Mongolian places and to prove how subjective a term it is, most non Asian people can tell the difference between Japanese, Chinese, Korean, but will lump them all as one. Why? Because that's what people do. We generalize to simplify what would otherwise be difficult to take the time to properly understand. Its a short cut to organize information to avoid going further in depth with analysis. That's what we primates do. We look at a different pack's fur colour or variation of spots to differentiate, not much more. We define each other no different then other apes do-we define by what we think is pack familiarity. There is no such thing as race. Its an ism/ist word like feminimism, anti-Semitism, agism, etc. Its used to explain when people make a negative generalization about a targeted group of people because of their physical characteristics, i.e., skin colour mostly In that sense we use racism, and its real yes, but race is a nonsensical word and it means nothing in science and should mean nothing to a logical, rational person. People choose to use religion, physical characteristics, political ideology as their excuse to stereotype others to justify their own discrimination. Everyone does it. The difference is some of us depend on it to construct our entire world and what we perceive, others realize its an illusion, its only a starting point in the journey to understand not the absolute point of understanding the meaning in the world. People quick to scream racism are usually in my experience as racist as the people they accuse of being racist. Everyone is a racist, everyone. We all have our isms and ists and yes we challenge them. I argue some people on this forum try use their ists an disms accusations as cards, free cards to avoid debate. Go on I defy any anti-Semite on this board who I have challenged to show when I have accused them of anti-Semitism, when I have not gone in to detail to explain why-I have not thrown it out to censor, just condemn and I explain why and I still invite the anti semites on this board to put up or shut up and show one post from me where I said someone could not challenge Israeli state policies. If I see someone using discussion of Israeli policies to stereotype all Israelis, all Zionists, any Jew who believes we are a political collective, I will call them out as a bigot for doing so precisely because they do not say the same about Arabs, Muslims, Christians. They only select Jews to deny as a collective of people no one else and that is what makes them anti-Semitic. If I heard just one person hold the entire world to the same standard as Israel on this post, if they were to use the same standard and say no one on this planet should have a collective identity, then I might listen and probably respect the argument although maybe I would or would not agree with it depending on context. I don't see that. I see people, the same people who engage in bigotry and hold different groups to different standards of criticism, throwing out the accusation of racism. I say bullshit to that. I say again, I am a bigot, we all are bigots Political forums necessarily by their inherent nature invite generalized stereotypical thought processes when issues are discussed. We have an entire generation now brought up believing they understand truth from looking onn the internet and not having to meet the very people or travel to the very nations they claim to be experts on. That is what I challenge and I challenge hear and now my own bigotry as I do anyone else's but you want to try make quick brownie points in a debate calling Argus a racist. when he said nothing racist, I will challenge it. Kactus if your argument is herd mentality is an unfair generalization, so be it. I see it across the Arab world generating inter-Muslim sect wars and anti-Semitism and and hatred against Kurds, Bebers, Yazidis, Zoroastreans. Buddhists, Bahaiis, Hindus, Jews, Druze, Coptics, SAssyrians, Armenians, on and on. I see certain fundamentalist Jews as herds, I see many people becoming sheep and delegating too much of their day to day beliefs on others to tell them how to think Zionism by defining my Jewishness as a political collective never said I was different than non Jews, better than them, or should blindly follow someone who was Jewish over someone who is not. All it stated was that to survive we must form a state to assure the state apparatus can n ot be used to extinguish us but to assure our continued existence. It is a concept of ollective identity not delegation of individual responsibility for decisions to the collective. I am a conservative not a liberal because I believe ultimately the responsibility for moral and behavioural decisions rests with each individual not the state as liberals do. Now I have again made myself clear but the very people crying racism against Argus won't read this They only read that which reflects back their own opinion and won't acknoledge for any other opinion or belief. I don't care. I only care that people like Dialamah and Argus keep debating and know they are listened to by me equally.

Let me be as clear as I can be you are dishonest in your response to me deliberately misrepresenting the words stated by someone on this forum, make false allegations of racism, then try distort and change what I said to Spanky and then speak for him against what I said. To start with Argus said ethnically its impossible to tell the difference between semites and that is true. That is not a racist comment and I explained why. To start with SEmites, we Jews and Arabs are not a race and his using the word Ethnicity is therefore accurate. You are the bigot not Argus. The notion you look like a Jew must terrify you. Lol. Look at your bullshit response. Argus is not the racist you are. I can place on this forum pictures of people from Algeria, Morrocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Israel, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran and Jordan and guarantee you would not know if they were Jews, Muslims. Christians, Bahaiis, Zoroastreans, Kurds, Coptics, Asyrians, Berbers. Armenian Turkish so do me a favour save your rightreous crap. The only thing pathetic is your trying to question me on a response to Sparky I was clear and precise about. If you also want to pretend their is no herd mentality in the Arab world when it comes to political ideology do me a favour, go spew that crap on someone who has never lived there. The only thing you can't handle is Argus uses the exact framing you do of Jews but to all Middle Easterners equally and that just ticks you off and why go on tell them what your religion taught you about Jews and why someone dare not say you look like one. You Sir are the bigot and a blatant one and my comment to Spanky was not even a disagreement. Argus never said we looked the same or think the same. He is dead on, none of us have distinct physical characteristics.

Here is a response to the often repeated argument about how Muslim attacks in Europe and the US are small and therefore Muslim terrorism rates are exaggerated or that 94% of terrorists aren't Muslim. source: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/411589/are-all-terrorists-muslims-ian-tuttle https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/loonwatch-94-percent.aspx The creators of the stats that try to distort and down play Muslim terrorist rates are CAIR and a web-site called Loonwatch.

While I agree with 99% of what you aid Argus I had to send Dialamah a complement. Its crucial she said what she did to break down negative stereotypes of Muslims. She has balls. It takes integrity to put your beliefs out there. You see the passive cowards on this board playing armchair warriors. She walks the walk man. I will hold her door open anytime and any Muslim's door who talks and walks like her. I have to-the very values you defend taught me to. Its what Canadian soldiers died for and stand for. Have to do it if for no other reason I have read Army Guy's posts on this forum and owe him that. He went to Afghanistan for that very reason. I bloody well am grateful he did. He didn't go out of hatred. Righteous gentiles are why I am here. For what its worth the level of your responses has increased in clarity when explaining your views. I may not agree with all of them but I appreciate your direct honesty in putting it out. You don't couch. You put it out. Lower level of religious fanaticism is a phrase you used. I have to agree the lower the level the less the potential problems, sure, but how the phack do we measure for that? Extremist fanatics are the first to lie and cover up their fanaticism and try couch it. Just read the crap on this board some days. I think if we did proper intelligence screening which we now have the technology to do, it would scare the crap out of liberals. Can't see someone like Trudeau ever doing it. He lives in a fantasy word.

You are one of the few Muslims who come on this board, explains her views in an attempt to break down stereotypes against Muslims and in my humble opinion stays pretty damn calm at things I would get pissed off at. So I admire your posts and it needs to be commended and continued. Not all Muslims are the fanatics many of us fear they are or will be when they come. I for one find myself preoccupied addressing some extremists on this board and their comments and I do not think they reflect or express any values other than their own. I will not stereotype Muslims because of them. I am sorry if I sound like I am in some responses. I debate you strongly because I think you can more than handle it but on this one I think you are to be commended for using yourself as an example. It shows integrity and personal commitment to what you said and I respect that a lot. Thank you. Now that said, I am glad you did it so people can see there is far more Muslims out there than some on this forum who couch their identities and repeat stereotype scripts. I doubt most people in every day life, interact enough with Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc., to really understand how or if their religions impact on them the way we think they do. All that said. and I say it again, on a private level, mosques, churches, synagogues, temples, are bringing in refugees and taking full responsibility for them. That to me is a good way to build a society. That said, I am concerned not just with Muslims, but any group bringing certain beliefs about gender to Canada and continuing it. I say that because I work in a system where I see the violence and how its condoned in the cultures and communities. Interestingly its in many communities, not just Muslim ones. Its by no means particular to Muslims and all these abusrs have learned to use the race card to defend their violence. I just finished a huge battle with a family whose father and sole son abuse the mother physically. They told the court I was racist and insensitive to their culture and religious beliefs. I also am representing a simple minded man who brought in a marriage of convenience wife who emptied his back accounts for her boyfriend. She told the Judge I was a racist. I have seen it all played out in the criminal, civil and family courts and so I have a very specific view that sees immigration from a point of view that if not planned out properly creates huge problems to society. I don't use politically proper language - when a man hits a woman or someone steals money that is not their own, their skin colour, religion, cultural, means sweet phack all to me and I know they will play the card and the court ultimately albeit very slowly tries to address the issues as best it can. You are owed an assurance by people like me that we may sound politically inappropriate but we swear an allegiance to treat all the same way. So believe me if I say I hate everyone equally and when you take a chance and put yourself on the line, its respected and recharges my idealism and belief in all people and its because you are doing what your religion has taught you. You are an example of how you put into practice the peaceful parts of the Koran. I know Muslims like you. They donated land to Jews when they came to the Middle East. They worked with me on grass roots projects. They also died the same reason some of my Israeli friends died. Its a bullshit way to learn about life. It makes me feel strongly that here in Canada, we are as Canadians given a chance to transcend stupid behaviour so why not take this chance and do good with it.