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He does sound like Jacques Parizeau or other Quebec separatists doesn't he....Germans all speak more than one language sometimes 3, 4. Most Europeans speak at least 2. I think what we see Besty and maybe I am overanalyzing is that with so many Muslims having come into Germany, ultra nationalist German feelings are coming back and should it be a surprise? In the past Jews or Romas were for the most part completely segregated from Germans or assimilated invisibly into the system. They were both passive. Now they have Muslims are quite assertive about demanding rights and not learning German and assimilating to Western values so the friction. Those moderate Muslims that came to Germany and did assimilate are the first to feel the brunt of this. People can't clearly distinguish between Muslims at this point in Europe. They see the burqa, other visible attire, brown skin, and they of course are thinking what next-a car in the crowd, some guy with a knife, etc. Its what Muslim terrorists are achieving with their attacks-a backlash against all Muslims in Europe which in turn alienates Muslims and makes them more likely to get angry and become militant and radical. Its a vicious cycle and how we enunciate in democracy what we will NOT put up with, is the question these days. You have for example in Canada. this jack ass of a Prime Minister through his silence collapsing the immigration system and creating a flood of illegal migrants-Trudeau will not limit what a Canadian is. He was brought up in a world where no one said no to him so he has no idea how to say no to others. Politicians coming up will be saying no to a lot of things. Trump got elected saying NO to many things. Extremist neo Nazis are saying no. That NO is coming in response to the constant yes.

As this thread continues, more terrorism occurs based on Muslim extremist beliefs. Each time an attack happens fear of Muslims increases and that is now creating in Europe and elsewhere a psychological phenomena for many years Israel has faced alone. The same people pointing fingers at Israel for being "racist" or "terrorist" are now going to have to decide how they think they will deal with this crap. No it does not make people tolerant. Its not rocket science.

You are a racist pointing the finger at people you call racists. Do you deny you are a racist? Before you call anyone a racist look in the mirror . That was the point made to you under whatever name you choose on this forum. You do not call out any other people on this forum or yourself as racists, just Jews and that makes you the very thing you accuse me of. Your disconnect from that is called cognitive dissonance. Now run along and piss on a Jew I don't have time for your self righteous horseshit.

1. Stop with the lol's just once. Try. Stop giggling and try for one exchange to stop giggling. 2. My source I suggest for you is not neo Nazi web sites but: www.biblestudytools.com/. 3. Next might I explain to you again, you appear to be removing specific passages from particular verses out of chapters and giving them literal meaning. To read The Torah you must understand the words you read are defined by the words before and after them not just the words read by themselves. You can not read Hebrew in isolation. For that matter the Torah is not meant to be read literally. Each sentence is meant to have MANY different meanings. To find all those meanings one has to then go and study the Talmud, the commentaries of Rabbiahs and the Kabala in some cases. 4. If you took the time to stop giggling and treat this or any subject as an adult, you wouldn't have come on this board giggling at the word penis. 5.In fact if you want to understand the laws of war in Judaism you don't just remove passages out of their actual context and meaning from Deuteronomy you have to read al the Torah sections that discuss war, i.e., halakah.com/rst\kingsandwars.pdf 6.You would then have to go to www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/military-law and icrc.org/eng/assets/files/other/irrc/858_solomon.pdf to find guides on how you read all this. 7. I tried to explain to you taking any words from the Torah written during the days the words may have been written and thinking they apply today in Judaism is false. 8.If you went to cardozolawreview.com/loomalis/content/28-1/EDREI.WEBSITE.pdf, you would find how the Jewish laws of war were up-dated and revised. You came on this thread to Jew bait and giggle at penises. You don't want people to discuss the Koran with disrespect and yet you show disrespect with the Torah the very same way others do with the Koran. Say what you want about me, you have never seen me ridicule the Koran. I point out with it as I do the Bible both Old and Ndw Testaments that there are many passages. They can have many meanings. They can easily be pulled out of their context to suit whoever wants to use them, which in your case is to ridicule Jews and with others Christians or Muslims. As a Zionist my political ideology is neutral to all religions. It treats them all the same in a political state and this is precisely in Israel Muslim, Jewish and Christian Jews have the option to opt out of family and other cultural laws and be dealt with in Rabbinical, Ecclesiastic (Canon Law) or Sharia Law courts. All citizens of Israel must follow certain laws equally, i.e., homicide, assault and battery, terrorist activities. If you want to use this thread as an excuse to giggle at Jews go ahead. Choice is yours. This Zionist is telling you, the IDF as a military code, its public domain and you can find it. This Zionist is telling you, I have had friends die following that code putting themselves in direct danger and death so that Palestinian civilians did not die. This Zionist is telling you that despite the world you now live in you think gives you all the answers about Jews or Palestinians you know neither of us. I know a bit more, enough to know we bleed and die the same way and cry and mourn the same way over our children's death. You want to exploit that and join in this idiotic thread go ahead. There is friction, real friction, intolerance, discrimination, hatred in all countries including Israel-it does not mean you and I should exploit that to single out certain people to hate justifying that hate saying they hate. That is illogical and your religion prohibits the ridiculing of the Torah and hatred and death in such a manner. How do I know, unlike you I sat and sit in inter-religious faith groups. We do not ridicule each other like you have. I respect the Hindus, Bahaiis, Unitarians, Muslims, Jews, Christians, Budhists, Taoists, gnostic Christians, atheists, humanists, that have taught me things. I am fortunate they did.

I was being rhetorical. Not meant as an attack but a challenge to you and anyone else including me. You individually are not the issue. We all have to be prepared to do some things none of us may not like to defeat this. Sorry. I say a lot of intense shit over such topics but not meant at you directly. I should have used the word we not you. Apologize.

Why did you come on this thread and make that comment? You came on this forum with a bunch of other individuals apologizing and defending Kadr for what he did. Now you think in the next breath your opinion on a terrorist attack counts? Whether one dies or 200 die, its terrorism and its unfortunate. I deleted my other comments.

If any country went in and took out ISIS what would your reaction be? Are you prepared to call out Muslim extremist terrorism and who is funding it and support what it would take to wipe it out? Get real. . because if you do...the answers and solutions to effectively disengaging such terrorists probably won't be to your liking. Of course these attacks will continue. Who will stop them? You? Your Prime Minister who pays 10.5 million to a terrorist and panders to Muslim extremists to get their vote? . .

Coming on this anti semitic thread to engage in a passive aggressive Jewish comment that engages me as a Jew speaks loudly. You are so God damn hateful you couldn't resist throwing the Jew reference in. Like I said you all know where to find me. Does it look like this Jew baiting does a damn thing? Lol. Get the Jew! I love being Frankenstein as the idiots come running with their torches. Get the Jew burn him! Lol. You might run faster if you take off those robes.

You did otherwise you would not have responded. You demonstrate once again you have no idea how to finish what you started. You don't need a summary-you can't produce any Torah verses when they don't exist. Lol. Pathetic.

I wouldn't know. Its quite possible you hate Palestinians as much as you do Jews. You salivate on cue. Didn't take long did it. Now that we have you out in the open, lol, you have any other crap you want to throw out? Lol. Oops his hood fell off. I love it. Wigs, burqas, hoods, brown shirts, what next spandex?

You boys done fishing or you want more? You want to fish, don't use hatred of Jews to do it. You know where to find me.

You didn' t provide any Torah verses. Provide them. My state is Canada its not illegal. You being an anti semite don't differentiate between Israelis and Jews so call me Israeli. Next Israel is not an illegal state. I do not live a criminal lifestyle. Israel is not an illegal area that is your subjective opinion taught to you by Muslim extremists. I don't support terrorism by anyone for any reason. You accuse me of having bombed Palestine. I have never bombed Palestine. In fact the IDF has engaged in aerial bombardment of targets in Gaza during wars initiated by Hamas against Israel. Yes it has. I have stated many times in my responses there are good and bad people of all faiths, creeds, colours, genders. My name is not Einstein. The fact Einstein was Jewish and I am Jewish again causes you to make immature slurs because we are both Jewish. Actually I do share Einstein's theory on energy. I also think his equations proved in one sense the theory of infinity or what some call the God particle and shows cosmology, physics and religion may not be as far apart as some think they are. There is discriminatory behaviour by Israelis who are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Druze, atheists, communists, etc., towards one another, African migrants who are and are not Jewish, and against Palestinians. In fact Arab Jews are more likely to discriminate against Palestinians than Jewish Israelis and you would know that if you lived there. I have never denied Israel has many social issues. In fact if the Arab world was not so dead on wiping it out who knows it may have disintegrated. Ironically your hatred and the hatred of Muslims world wide keeps Israel strong. Now what I have challenged on this thread is the use of racism and an unfortunate incident in Charlotte, which all Jews have to speak out about since it was fueled by neo Nazism, being used by people like you to piss on Jews for having a nation. You haven't discussed the issue in fact you came on the thread to Jew bait and misquote the Torah. Not one word you quoted is in the Torah and its time you grow up. Now you want to discuss racism as if it only happens in Israel as a platform to call all Israelis racists because they and Jews like me believe we have a right to a state no diferent than you, then grow up. Your hatred won't make us go away or the racism intrinsic in the Muslim world you won't discuss, i.e., source:http://elderofziyonblogspot.com/2021/05/arab-racism-story-left-ignores.html "Here's a story about racism that was published three days ago, but that was ignored in the major leftist websites. Wonder why? From The Economist: THE multilingual, fashion-conscious residents of Beirut, Lebanon’s capital, fancy their city to be cosmopolitan. But not everyone is welcome. Black people and foreigners from Asia and elsewhere in the third world who make up the bulk of migrant workers are often turned away from the city’s smarter venues. Conscious of the bad blood this can cause, Lebanon’s government has warned beach clubs against barring entry on the basis of race, nationality or disability. But racism is unlikely to be erased overnight, either in Lebanon or in many other Middle Eastern countries where blacks are routinely looked down on. Racist taunts are often heard on Egypt’s streets, and in Yemen, darker-skinned people, known as al-akhdam (“the servants”), who make up perhaps 5% of the population, are confined to menial jobs and tend to dwell in slums. In Libya rebel militias often targeted darker-skinned people from nearby countries such as Chad and Mali and from countries further south, accusing them of being mercenaries of Muammar Qaddafi. Filipinos, Sri Lankans and Chinese-Americans, among others, whisper of racist slurs both at work and on Lebanon’s streets. “When black or Asian friends visit,” says a young Lebanese professional, “I’m at the airport the moment they land to make sure immigration officers don’t ask inappropriate questions. It’s a disgrace.” Some people blame the legacy of the slave trade, which brought sub-Saharan Africans, as well as others, to the region from the 7th century onwards. But Nadim Houry of Human Rights Watch, a New York-based lobby group says that racism persists in the region because governments have been lax about tackling it. “There are racists everywhere in the world, but in many countries it is now taboo to make comments, partly because there are laws against it,” he says. “Here, even when there is legislation, it is never applied.” Snobbery makes things worse. Millions of foreigners in the Middle East do cleaning and building jobs which locals consider beneath them. Sponsorship schemes often deny such workers basic rights. “People just see us as cheap labour,” says a Filipino university graduate who makes $200 a month in a Beirut beauty parlour. Some beach clubs have already said they will ignore the new regulation. Their customers, they say, would not tolerate having to rub shoulders with the dark-skinned servant class. Will there be any soul-searching in the Arab world about this explicit racism? Will the "pro-Palestinian" crowd notice that Arab racism makes the bigotry of some Israelis pale by comparison? Will there be follow-up stories in the media about this, which might shame some Arabs? No, no and no. " Next for someone who poses as a Turk posing a moral finger at Israel and Netanyahu for being racist when you claim you come on this board to support Erdogan and are against democracy what does that mean? You support a regime engaged right now in a war of genocide against Kurds and supports Al Quaeda. You support a man who dismissed the Armenian massacre by the Turks in WW1 as never happening and who questioned the existence of the holocaust. You think you are in the position to point at anyone else?....look in the mirror. Instead of exploiting what happened in Charlotte and Palestinians to prop your need to piss on Jews, grow up just once. You actually want to start an intelligent thread discussing how the Torah is actually interpreted and what it means, you could have done so in the religion thread. You only brought it up to Jew bait and its clear from your childish comments that is what you did. The difference between us is when people took Koran quotes out of their context in other threads I explained why they were taken out of context. That is the difference between us. I don't misquote the Koran to back a hatred for Muslim people as you do the Torah and Jews. Show one word from me where I claimed as you do with Jews all Muslims are terrorist, etc. You never have been to the West Bank or Gaza. You never met a Palestinian or an Israeli and yet you pose as an expert on both. This is why I respond to your childish comments sometimes with contempt. You don't give a damn about Palestinians. They are just a prop that enables you to piss on Jews. You have no clue what Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Fatah Hawks, Al Quassam, PFLP, etc., are and how they operate. On this thread I do what I do when I see hatred against Jews, I try turn it back in the face of its haters and defuse it because I am an example of a Zionist and you need to hear it-we are not anti Muslim we are not anti Palestinian, we do not believe we are better than anyone, we started a Jewish collective national state to protect us from anti semitic hatred and genocide by both the Europeans and Arab nations. Your version of Islam depicts Jews is as hateful and bigoted as it gets. Don't point your foinger at me when you follow religious beliefs that refer to me as a monkey, a dhimmi, a kkahir, an inferior, an infidel who needs to be wiped out. Look in the mirror and see your own hatred before you accuse me of being hateful. I do not use my religion to hate Muslims. You assume because you use Islam to hate Jews I do the same in reverse. I do not. I reject fundamentalism. I don' read the Bible as you do the Koran with only a literal meaning. In fact no Jew does. You can't grasp that. You read things literally and assume others do because you do. I follow no word stated in the name of God that preaches hatred of others. You asked I answered. No my religion does not condone hatred. The fact the Torah has violent passages an depictions of an angry God does not mean its used by Jews or me to be violent or angry. There are in my people, extremists who quote the Torah as Muslims do the Koran and Christians to the New Testament to justify hatred. It does not mean this is the only way the religions can be used. You don't know my life or what I did on the West Bank. You don't know what I saw, what I witnessed, who I worked with. You assume because I am a Jew I am a demon because I think I have the same rights as a Muslims. Dhimmitude will never happen again with Israelis. You are not going back to the good old days when you could keep Jews in segregation and inferior second class khafir. Get over it. Get it clear as well. I am a Canadian and always have been. Canada has always been my nation that I am loyal to. The moment it is not no.1 for me, unlike some in my country, I will not stay and suck up its benefits while pissing on it. Got that? I don't use my country as a convenience from which to preach hatred and support terrorism hiding it under the guise of multi-culturalism. Clear? Don't mix me up with the crap you think you are part of. Next, my religion is something far too abstract for you to fathom. My Jewish identity is not based on your idiotic fabrications. It's a mix of religious concepts, ethnic, cultural, moral, meta-physical, political values, and you have no clue what they are so don't presume you know. Your neo Nazi web-sites can't grasp my language but this I can tell you-in your world I am not something you can kill or piss at. Try figure out what that means and why I can't be killed or pissed at. Find out what the phack a spirit is because your presumption I am something you can grasp is a joke.

At this point I have "Marcus" throwing out unreferenced and what appear to be parsed quotes. I have someone posing as a Turkish young woman engaging in Jew baiting. I have Marcus arguing Netanyahu who is a racist is outraged at racism. I have alleged quotes pointing out there is friction and distrust between Israelis and Palestinians and this means all Israelis are racist and so should remain silent on racism and neo Nazism. Its an interesting thread in that it shows: 1-a distinct pattern of who gets cued with what name as to what response; 2-the repeat use of fabricated quotes to try deflect from the previous comments when the writer has no idea how to respond to the challenge made to them. It also shows how a supposed thread on Israel is used to insult all Jews and Israelis with insulting references. There is no country in the world where racism and intolerance does not exist. On this thread however, the whole point is to single it out in Israel to make inferences that since Jews are no different than neo Nazis, they should not speak out about them. That is the pith and substance of this thread, that is why its anti semitic. I also expose this pattern: 1-whenever I respond directly to someone on this thread, they do not respond, but another name responds on their behalf finishing the argument; 2-the transfer from discussing alleged racism in Israel to Jew baiting took place in one response; 3-the actual link to smeering all Israelis took place in the title and very first response. The parsing of quotes, the unreferenced quotes, they speak loudly. When a participant on this forum is afraid to referenced a quote why be surprised. When they do its then possible to show how the quote was changed, fabricated, or removed out of its full context to create a new meaning and those techniques the trolls don't want exposed. I ain't done Marcus et al. Bring it.

Where's you reference for the quote? At this point you have shown a continuous deliberate exercise of fabricating unreferenced quotes. What you think parsing fabricated quotes establishes your point that all Israelis are racist? Lol.

I stated you are quoting false Talmud quotes from a neo Nazi web site and are too stupid to understand they are not from the Torah. I also discussed that there are Torah passages about war. At no time did I say your quotes were from the Torah. You don't read. Then you come on the board exhibiting you didn't understand what I said. because you are either stupid, don't read English very well, or are both. Either way adding to that demonstration of ignorance the faces and giggling lowers you to a salivating puppy. Grow up. Show some dignity or does your posing as a Turkish woman include this idiot behaviour in the script you were given for this forum? Respect comes from demonstrating it. Lowering yourself as you have is pathetic.

Provide his quote. Why won't you? Each time you refuse to provide his quote you simply expose yourself as lacking any credibility. Next, there is an obvious issue you don't report and that is the feelings Arab Jews or Palestinians have towards Israeli Jews and Jews in general. Your agenda is to come on this board and slur the entire nation of Israel's Jews as racist and therefore this means the country should remain silent about racism or anti Semitism in the US. That is irrational. In fact you demonstrate the Prime Minister you call a racist is outraged by racism. Lol you don't stop for one second to give thought to how stupid your attempt to smeer Israel has become when you respond. Now you call me a Zionist warrior? What are you? You want to bring that up? What do you know as to what I witnessed and have been through in Israel that you call me a warrior as if that is an insult? Do you stop before you belittle? Now you want to parse quotes out of context, have the balls to reference them so the full context of what was said before and after them can be found and the editing you do to the quotes can be exposed. Until you do that, you are a joke in your attempts to piss on me or Israelis because we believe we have the right to a state and a political collective identity. You want to call me a warrior. Yah you bet I dug latrines and cleaned toilets and bed pans. I pulled nails out of feet, cleaned rat bites, pulled worms out of anuses and eyes. You want to make something of that? You want to belittle it? Go ahead. While you sit in a sheltered environment in Canada I did something. I demonstrated peaceful coexistence with Palestinians in the name of Zionism what did you or have you ever done for Palestinians? Go on finish it. What have you achieved with your rhetoric. You don't even know what a Palestinian is arm chair warrior. I am no warrior. I am a toilet cleaner. There's the difference between us. Don't project your imagined war role on me. I am not some pathetic computer game you were brought up on where the blood and killing remains abstract far away from your sheltered antiseptic life. You picked the wrong toilet cleaner. Trying to dump shit at me is all in a day's work.

You are a child engaged in baiting. When you can reference one alleged quote you fabricate, get back to me. Also Altai the fact you even need to reply to me should tell you something. Whatever acknowledgment or recognition you want from me can't come from you blurting out such stupidity. Stop following others and just once stand and think for yourself. Even if what you said is true. even if there are Jews, Israelis that are racist, it doesn't mean the entire country is or its entire people are any more than it makes all Muslims terrorists because there are Muslim terrorists. All you do is lower yourself to being manipulated to spread hate messages. Using the female gender as a pretext to do that is cowardly. You get back to me when you want to discuss something other than Jews are poo poo tee hee.

Again I don't care how many names you pose with or the discussions you pretend to have. Its over. You've been exposed. This is a pale attempt and taking an incident in Charlotte to try call Israelis Nazis, racists, whatever. Next the false quotes whether it be the torah, or press articles or alleged things Ehud Barak said, you don't reference them because of course they do not exist. You fabricate them. You lower yourself to the most base of trolling exercises, spewing unreferenced fabrications putting words in peoples' mouths they never stated. Whether Ghost does it by parsing quotes or you just out and out lie, it simply exposes you. Ehud Barak, Tzipi Levni, the leaders of non Likud political parties in Israel openly criticize Israeli state policies as advocated by Netayahu and the Likud party. Its called democracy. There is free speech and its reported in the free press. I know its hard for someone coming from a dictatorship in Iran, Syria, Turkey to comprehend that. Your attempts to suggest because Israelis can openly challenge one another in debate means they are calling each other Nazis is just out and out moronic. The attempt to state Israeli politicians have no moral obligation to speak out about anti-Semitism and neo Nazi behaviour in any country in the world is laughable. The bottom line is because you think Jews challenge neo Nazis-you call them Nazis. That's your message. The notion Israel was created to protect Jews from Nazis and hateful people like you turns you into a blithering moron with these messages. Your hatred of Jews defending themselves against bigotry causes you to come on this board and do what? Fabricate fake quotes, call Jews Nazis for being Israeli, calling all Iraelis racist, giggling at fabricated passages of the Torah. Your act is so pathetic you have your alleged "Turkish" girl producing false quotes of the Talmud from neo Nazi sites and she still hasn't figured out the difference between the Talmud and Torah thinking they are the same when she false quotes. Run along. When you do a response anywhere on this board people understand when you support immigration to Canada and pose as being multi-cultural and tolerant of immigrants you are just a shrill, an extremist shrill with an agenda of radical Islamification behind your pathetic posts. Israel is just one of many scapegoats you have. You have many, Christians, Bahaiis, Druze, Kurds, Assyrians, Buddhists, Hindus, Americans, so called conservatives, feminists, trade unionists, not just Jews In fact you probably hate more Muslims than you do Jews, i.e., Ismaili, Amidyah, progressive Muslims. We clear? You know where to find me.

Great question. Maybe in this case its not. It does though when it comes to your Prince, Justin of Trudeau help him immensely. The Liberals use the media to their advantage and Trump clearly has either an anti social personality disorder and doesn't give a damn about the press or he's a shock jock, i.e., someone who believes negative publicity make shim an underdog that he thinks fuels his true support and what he thinks is a silent majority. Don't know. You rememver what Marshal McLuhan said about manipulating the media. I think if Michael is arguing that extremists of any kind have less intellectual influence than we give them credit for, I might some times agree with him. Then again the average person has an iq of about 100, and that is no insult, but that means the majority of people on this planet haven't evolved to a level of critical thinking to make them immune to extremist manipulation. Lord knows marketing shows us how easy we get manipulated by messages. Surely Hitler taught us how easy it is to get so called "normal" people to do very evil things. May I say its great to finally have a topic to discuss where I do not rant at you about Kadr you sob. (joking)

Very good point.

Your not confused the left extremists are. They embrace a lot of extremist ideologies in the moment. Basically and of course I am generalizing for discussions sake the extremists on both sides share one thing in common, they look to simple jingoistic or chauvinistic answers to give them a common vision and cause through a state apparatus in times where they feel insecure. Basically we are talking about cult phenomena. It serves the purpose of what religions used to do before they lost influence in day to day life. They give people who feel hopeless a sense of hope which is why they attract people with low self esteem and who feel weak. Then again its pack behaviour. Its what we homo sapien apes do. Its a primal defense mechanism when we feel endangered to gather in a pack led by an alpha male ape who we think will protect us. Strength comes from the pack and its alpha male. This is why so many extremists have to fan the flames of hatred to fan the flames of making their followers feel endangered. In times of moral confusion alpha males with extreme messages emerge. The tise and fall of extremist alpha males can be predicted by loking at economic and weather patterns. overcrowding, increase in crime, etc.. Also when you think about it when you listen to extremist ideology there is no pure extremist ideology-its fragmented and takes bits and pieces of anything it hears and feeds it back into a "fear should make you hate" message. I said all the above for discussion. I am going now to eat a banana and some fleas.

Maybe sometimes Michael sure but the two go hand in hand.

Its a little late trying to play that don't you think? What now you want to play it was all just about a documentary? You don't know what I have responded to? You magically stopped reading the excrement on this thread other than the first remark? Is that the shtick now? I told you "boys" long ago, you want to troll this forum, you know where to find me. All it takes is one, one person to stand up to this hatred. One. Not a tag team.

The above individual you quote is a neo Nazi. You are so pathetic you quote his Jew baiting as if its relevant to the smeer you make.

You can produce all the fake quotes you want it doesn't come from the Torah and the fact you can't provide the verse is pathetic. I don't care how many names or how much of this you do, all you've done is expose your agenda. Your attempts to Jew bait are there for all to see.