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The above is a classic example of how Marcus lies and then projects the lie on what he calls "Zionist warriors coming into this forum (sic)"..." In fact it was Marcus and Hudson Jones and others who do not believe Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state who have recycled not just on this forum but thousands of political forums a false script trying to use maps to show a "shrinking Palestine" map to promote the false representation that the state of Israel seized the land from "Palestine". Its a lie, an out and out lie, pre-meditated and one of many re-cycled stories that is continually recycled on this and numerous political forums because the people who send it believe even though its a complete and utter lie and they know it is completely false, if you repeat something no matter how false, enough times, it takes on a life of its own and its believed. Flooding boards with false information is done believing if you flood enough people stop responding to it, so that silence is then inferred by others it must be true or someone would debunk it. Its interesting because on this forum it was used the last time by Hot Enough I believe, it was debunked once again and what is always the case is that when the map is debunked and shown to be false, Marcus, Kactus, Hudson Jones et al, suddenly disappear for 4 to 5 posts acting as if it never existed and then oops up it goes again. On this forum the repeat pattern of putting a complete and utter falsehood on the board passing it off as fact, then ignoring the debunking and simply putting it back up again or raising it again as Marcus does, speaks for itself. In the case of Marcus though he is a deliberate liar. The false map came from the people with the shrinking Palestinian map they prop. The response with counter maps are not false as anyone can see: http://www.thetower.org/article/the-mendacious-maps-of-palestinian-loss/ https://jewsdownunder.com/2015/08/02/countering-shrinking-palestine-maps-lie/ http://edgar1981.blogspot.ca/2014/05/countering-shrinking-palestine-maps-lie.htmlsrael Now Marcus can try engage in deliberate lying and make it appear as if "Zionist warriors" came on this thread and initiated showing the map, but its a lie. Someone like me only uses counter maps to debunk the lies, not initiate the use of maps in this manner. Now as for the "Zionist warriors" comment, its interesting Marcus uses such labels, and its why tongue in cheek, I respond as I do to the Marcus-Kactus-Ghost-Hudson Jones-Altai-Eye CABAL, because if I am and I quote one of the " Zionist warriors coming into this forum who try to justify Israel's crimes against humanity..." because I challenge the use of this false map exercise, so be it. The question is if I am a "Zionist warrior" then of course it stands to reason Marcus using that reasoning is a jihadi warrior arm chair Israel pissante and thus I invented this phrase because I think it captures the essence of the jihadi urination on Israel shtick on this forum. One last thing, I don't come "into" this forum. I am a superhero and part of the list of super Jewish heroes I listed on a previous response but my powers to not enable me to penetrate into forums. Here is an explanation of my powers and the other Legion of Zionist Warriors who you see on this forum: Rue D Known simply as Rue no one has seen his face. He has fought battles along side Deadman, The Spectre, The Phantom Stranger and The Sandman. He has the power to appear in dreams and change the future of people's lives. Whether he appears in their dreams or in person he manifests and dissipates instantaneously. He has the power to evoke in the souls of the evil, such fear they become paralyzed. The more evil they have the more they laugh and if truly evil they kill themselves laughing as he simply looks at them. He has no power against those who have no Yetzehera, evil their souls and in such cases appears to protect them and in their case, those with no evil, instead of laughing will cry. In fact the more innocent they are the more they will cry and could die crying-so he is careful when helping people to make sure he only counter balances the evil within them preventing them from fighting the evil of others. He serves as an equalizer sucking out the evil from those with goodness and to paralyze and if need be destroy those with evil. He only appears when injustice can not be battled by other superheroes or he is asked by them to help. Rue's face has never been seen. He appears as a man in a shadow form wearing a 1930's suite and matching hat with glowing yellow eyes. He can appear rising from the hole in the ground in a swirling tornado of distorted moaning heads. The sound of moaning and agony precedes and procedes his entrances as does a gust of wind. He is believed to be otherworldly and possibly an angel like the Phantom Stranger or a deceased soul like the Deadman or Spectre. The Dog This hero's alias is Bertrand Mongoose, retired tailor and hat maker to the stars and Royalty. It is believe he was accidentally bitten by an anti-Semite when he was waiting to buy a loto ticket. Ever since he has the power to appear as a black dog the size of an Irish wolfhound able to penetrate buildings and travel at immense speeds. He has two powers. One is the ability to slash and bite and therefore kill just like a werewolf. The other is to urinate so much and hard on people that they explode. He transforms to a Dog only when confronted by anti semites. However the one fall back to his power is that anyone with a beard or who speaks Arabic or quotes the Koran can trigger his turning into a Dog so care must be taken to protect the innocent by making sure to have him wear rose coloured glasses to prevent this. The Argus Brit MacTavish was believed to have been born in the Scottish highlands. Abandon at birth he was raised by Irish wolfhounds until one eventful day he was hit by a lightening bolt and fell into a lake (loch). It is believed he sunk to the bottom and obtained the superpower of now being able to swallow unlimited amounts of liquid and spit them back in the face of his foes. The only drawback is he must take care not to confuse his power when drinking otherwise he is known to consume vast quantities of ale and whisky and frighten people when he sings or plays his bagpipes which have the power to explode people's heads. He uses his bagpipes as a weapon in battle to blast the enemy's heads off. The Godess Formerly known as the Vixen The Godess is mild mannered Bee Bonnet a librarian working in Hoboken, New Jersey. Her origins are not known but it is believed she was at the Woodstock music festival and after a bad LSD trip gained the powers to raise her arms and send bolts of energy at people causing them to melt, explode, or shrivel or simply scream at lower levels. For her powers to work she can not shave her legs.
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Says someone who came on this board on the Netanyahu is a racist thread to slur all JEWS with the reference THE Jews, all Zionists with the term "typical Zionist thug" and wrote of the entire nation of Saudi Arabia because of its government. I have asked you to provide one thread or word from me on this forum expressing hatred towards Muslims other than terrorist extremist Muslims. You have yet to provide one post. On the other hand I reproduce yourJew slurs continuously. You don't speak for Palestinians or Muslims. You speak for your political cell of Shiite Iranian extremists who hate not just Jews but progressive Shiites, all non Shiite Muslims, Bahaiis,Christians, Kurds, feminists, gays,trade uionists, Berbers. Zoroastrians to name but a few targets. You know where to find me. Also you responded to me on that other Netanyahu is a racist thread which you then used to accuse all Israelis and Jews of being evil, and said to me I was deflecting that thread. When I pointed out in that thread how you in fact deflected the thread and then reproduced your comments accusing me of doing so after you introduced the accusation Israel is a criminal state against other nations which has nothing to do with the thread topic, to show once again how inconsistent you are, you lied. You said ypu were responding to Bush and I should butt out. Everyone on that thread could plainly see you responded to me.What is interesting is you think you can tell me to butt out of responses not addressed to me and then you do the same with Dialamah speaking for her. Lol. Can you go one sentence without demonstrating the very thing you accuse me or others of? You have not now in about 15 responses to me been capable of not contradicting yourself by challenging me for doing the very thing you do in your response. Its so repetitive now I can only ask, do you think you have any credibility left? Probably you don't care. What I see is a lazy, sloppy, emotional mess of knee jerk hate responses now thrown out by you with no time taken to even read what you write. You just spew it.
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I never said that I can assure um I uh oh its just such a blur your so difficult to respond to ooh I hate you, you bad Hebrew you won't just go away and let me rant why do you pick on the kactus plant now I'm calling you out as Cohen no wait I gotta get goin you better watch out I'm coming back soon then I will tell you off you mean Zionist goon I'm gonna round up my posse and were gonna aim and spit and keep calling you a Zio shit yah that's gonna prove how righteous I am and you'll just blow up and go kablam oooh how I hate you and your Zionist blog and I also can't stand Zionist dog he keeps reminding me of the Mullah as if I am not a big enough fool ugh.
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No it was to me. The words I have bolded and you responded to were from me. So which one is it do you lie, or are you dim witted...because I am telling you Kactus your act on this thread is done. You are so quick to deny what you write at this point you either are dim witted or a pathological liar. I leave it to you to decide and do yourself a favour-don't respond further you are making a complete idiot of yourself with me and I am not interested in anything you have to say. I could not be more direct with you. You have nothing but deflections, out and out lies and denials and anti semitic slurs to direct my way. Your need to put me in my place has become a joke. 'You and Ghost" really need to stop reading what I write. Like "you" said, its "too difficult" for you. Good God then go send correspondence to Altai. She will understand. Tee hee. You then deflect again in the third sentence of paragraph two to avoid what you and Marcus and Ghost et al have stated on this thread by using the term "anyone with no bias towards middle east conflict can see what Israel is doing". We are not talking about anyone, we are talking about the words you used. When "anyone" does decide to place their words on this thread, then they may or may not be challenged. The manner in which you use the reference "anyone with no bias" is also ironic. In fact when read fully, the third sentence makes it clear, "anyone with no bias" in fact means, anyone who agrees with you and has your biases. This is a continuing problem of yours. You think you can state things using coded references that can be read in different ways so you can maintain your beliefs but have people believe they may mean something else. Its spent, its done, and its exposed. Your fourth sentence in paragraph two shows you take an accusation about Netanyahu being a "racist" and apply it to all Israelis. It also shows you fail to differentiate religious and ethnic conflicts of many people not just Israelis and suggest they are all one and the same and only expressed by Jews o r for that matter non Jews who believe they have a right to live in a Jewish state. That device of smeering entire groups of people and misrepresenting conflicts speaks for itself-it speaks to your agenda to incite hatred against the state of Israel existing as a Jewish state, and any citizen of Israel or anyone who supports the Jewish state's right to exist as a Jewish state. Read the title of the OP agains it's a racism in Israel towards North African immigrants. The very fact that you do not want to accept this shows you are a supporter of racism. I know you love that megalomaniac Bibi. Doesn't mean that whoever calls him a racist is anti semite as you suggested.... You have demonstrated you will turn a blind eye to the injustice by Muslims against other Muslims, by Muslims against non Muslims, by Arabs against their fellow Arabs, by Arabs against Palestinians. Again you are deflecting....Read the title of the OP
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Do yourself a favour and put me on hold. What I do not doubt from reading the continuing comments from you is your anti semitic agenda and in fact inability to deflect from your pathetic agenda. Smug? Lol, you come on this forum now telling me not to deflect from the OP title and engage in that pathetic crack about Cohen and Cohen or the pathetic attempt to demonize Israel as criminal? Lol. Not smug. Its called holding you in contempt-considering what you have to share on this forum transparent, hateful excrement. You do not speak for Palestinians or Arabs in your hatred of Jews. That is smugness. Your calling Kurds Iranians, that is smugness. Your attempt to rationalize your bigotry and double standards against Jews for being a nation, that's smug. Or more accurately, simple, blind, dogma you chant. Like I said you really want to put me on hold. The more you write the more I will feed back your latest anti semitic comments and explain why you are a bigot. By the way the insertion of grammar mistakes, pathetic. Peekaboo I see you. The smell is identical, Some need tell Hamesh maybe its time to go back to Bangla Desh and help the Muslims from Burma or maybe help the victims of Hurricane Irma or better still stay in Mama's basement and just chill this obsession with dah JOOOOOOOOO exposes he aint got no clue that if he insists on having the last word aint no Jooooooo or Kurd gonna be put in their place by Kactus and his race with their distinct looks that he still can't find in the books
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Now to start with it wasn't too long ago you sent me a response that stated: "Read the title of the OP against it's a racism in Israel towards North African immigrant" and ""Again you are deflecting....Read the tile of the OP". You now come on this thread responding with something that has NOTHING to do with the OP title and to try suggest Israel engages in crimes against other countries which shows not only do you deflect from the op, as I stated, but your agenda is to demonize the entire state of Israel for existing as a Jewish state by trying to suggest its a "criminall". In fact the third item you listed proves NOT A DAMN THING. What it does refer to is the fact that at one point Israel provided military weapons to the Pinochet regime. Israel has sold military hardware to China, South Africa, Chile, numerous other countries, some like Chile with horrible internal human rights records. I have openly challenged Israel for selling military hardware to certain regimes including Chile and do it hear and now. However what does it have to do with this thread and what does it prove? China, Russia, the US, Britain, France, Belgium, Germany, Brazil, Holland, Sweden to name but a few countries have all sold military equipment to questionable regimes. Iran and Saudi Arabia finance military supplies and wars not only to questionable regimes but terrorist groups dedicated to destroying Israel and the West and Muslims? So? How does singling Israel out and not all the rest of the world contribute to any meaningful discussion? How does singling Israel out do anything othere than engage in an exercise to demonizing Israel?. The rationalization for this phony standard of singling out Israel for a practice unfortunately so many countries engage was for Kactus et al to argue, yah well he can ignore the rest of the world because he believes Israel "pretends" to be civilized. Well shit, last time I looked, has Iran, Saudi Arabia, China, the US, et al ever claimed to be uncivilized? Of course the argument Kactus engaged in was illogical. The fact is we have a phenomena in the world called hegemony where numerous nations of which Israel is only one, all compete with one another to safeguard each country's best interests by forming alliances, and sometimes these alliances are with countries that have and human rights records. Its the reality of the world we live in and to address that topic rationally and not as a transparent exercise to incite hatred of but one country in a world where its common practice, we need to challenge all countries not just Israel and the UN and humanity for failing to evolve past the point where we are at now where the no. 1 economic activity of all European nations, Canadsa, the US, Brazil, Iran, Saudi Arabia, China and Russia is the development and sale of military hardware. The irony is the 5 permanent members of the UN Security Council are there because they have declared nuclear weapons and all of them are dependent as their no.1 activity on military sales. President Eisenhower warned in his last speech of the dangers of becoming dependent on the military industrial complex. No one listened. For m4e as a Zionist I am saddened that Israel founded on the principle of cooperative farms has evolved into an economy so dependent on developing military hardware. It is also responsible for cutting edge technology in medicine and other areas that benefit humanity. Israel like other countries engaged in military development, also uses technology learned or transferred from its military research to assist humanity in medicine and other ways so its not all evil but its a reality. Using it on this forum to deflect from the epic failure of this thread to establish Israelis as racist or the state of Israel as racist is evident. Even if Israel was engaging in crimes, you will note Kactus just throws out the criminal accusation but in no way shows how its related to a racist belief unless of course you automatically infer Israel is Jewish and that is racist and so when it does crimes, that makes the two interconnected. Its a lazy, illogical, smeer. Throw out a negative allegation and hope it sticks. Then Kactus further shows the agenda behind his demonization of Israel with the term, "Maybe rue et al and Cohen and Cohen can sing...." In that comment, Kactus shows again this is about using a thread supposedly to call Netanyahu a racist, an opportunity to engage in anti semitic taunts. What does Cohen and Cohen have anything to do with the topic, other than Kactus feels the need to bait me personally with an insult about all Jews. I have said it time and time again and produced the words when Kactus, Altai, Ghost et al throw in their passive aggressive slurs showing this is not about a discussion about Netanyahu, this thread is a pretext to deny the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state. Its about JEWS and how dare they not know their place and thus the Cohen and Cohen comments or the insipid comments about Khafir or giggling at Jews by Altai, or pretending to be a patient Jew, as Ghost did, or suggesting as Eye did that had Jews after the holocaust been kept in Europe, there would have been no problem. This is what this thread is about and using Kactus's phrase, no amount of deflection from the actual op and demonization about Israel gives him the moral justification to engage in his double standards and bigotry about Jews.
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Lol. Let me no. it for you. 1. The fact I have consistently argued on this thread that Jews and Arabs do not look physically different does not make me a racist. In fact that is illogical. Racism is the exercise of defining people based on the belief that people can be defined based on secondary physical characteristics which is exactly what you do when you argue Arabs, Kurds, Jews, Azari, look different. 2. The fact I argue that using secondary physical characteristics to differentiate Arabs from Jews as you do makes you racist, does not mean I have herded Arabs in one category. I have in fact stated repeatedly to you Arabs like Jews can look pretty much like anyone on this planet as we are a complete mix of all secondary physical characteristlcs. 3. Your attempt to accuse me of racism against Arabs or lumping them all in one negative category as you do with Jews is a premeditated and blatant lie. You make the allegation knowing you can't provide one post from me that shows this and that I have argued the exact opposite. Its become so absurd that you come on this thread and engage in the very herding you accuse me of repeatedly by engaging in references such as: a-"THE Jews"; b-"typical Zionist thugs". But you didn't stop there. You then decided while you would go in the Islamaphobia thread complaining about discrimination against Muslims, you could come on this thread at the same time hoping no one would notice and slurring everyone who lives in Saudi Arabia and openly stating your hatred for them to. 4. When asked to describe the physical differences between Arabs and Jews, you produced essays showing my contention was in fact correct, that any genetic differences would be invisible to the eye-then you tried to twist those articles to say we Jews and Arabs look different. Your responses are on this thread for anyone to thead. When I again asked to explain those differences you ran from me and refused to answer knowing any answer would incriminate you with racist descriptions of these supposed physical differences. 5. Your attempt to call me or Argus racist was a pathetic and failed deflection of your own racist agenda to argue we Jews, Arabs, Kurds all look different so yopu can try incite hatred against Arabs and Jews, Muslims and Jews, Israelis and Palestinians. 6. You again prove in your response above with the use of the term "typical Zionist thugs" you smeer and hate anyone who believes Israel has the right to be a Jewish state. This again evidences you are an insincere, manipulative liar on this forum. You came on this forum saying you recognize the state of Israel. I said you deliberately omitted the word "Jewish" state of Israel because the only Israel you acknowledge is a sharia law Israel. You deny this but repeatedly to me and others refuse to come on this board and state you recognize a Jewish state of Israel. You have fooled no one running and hiding from th at clarification because it can be repeatedly seen when you use references like "typical Zionist thug" your agenda is to deny Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state and demonize anyone who believe Jews have the right to a Jewish state. 7. Now you come repeat in the above response again a false allegation as to my bigotry which you can not show in my words on this forum but I have shown in your words on this forum such as your use of the references, "typical Zionist thug" or my favourite the response before this one to me where you launched into a tirade about "THE Jews". Bottom line? You demonstrate in the above response the very things you claim I am doing on this forum. More to the point, calling me derogatory names is hilarious. I love it. "Typical Zionist thug." I love it thank you. Hey when you have the integrity and honesty and grow some balls, nothing is stopping you from coming on this board and stating you do not believe in a Jewish state of Israel. You fool no one. The personal attacks on me to try deflect from your hatred of we Jews is funny. You don't have the balls to finish your allegations and explain how we look physically differen from an d, hate Palestinians,Arabs, and Muslims. You just throw out the allegations with zero proof. Zero, What is it like to be such a phony you go on the Islamophobia thread protesting bigotry against Muslims while smeering the entire Saudi Arabian nation not just Jews and Zionists on this thread? Must be something and you call me smug? Lol.
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Lol. Hang on. I know its a little bit too fast for you. No problem. Let me explain. Get your translator out. you stated Arabs were being mistreated by you know who the HEBREWS. So I responded: "Lol the ones (Joo, Arabs) you told Argus look different. " Then I said , "You sure they were not mistaking "Arabs" for "Jooooooz"? I refer to you as THEY because you refer to yourself many times in posts as we and you know, call me silly I could swear your English suddenly has mysteriously gotten worse in your posts-lol-thanks for that though,it helps me understand when you use the word "we" to refer to yourself, you don't mean you are ghost. Lol. Yes I was confused for a second what with the timing of your responses and the exact same sentences until suddenly you lost your command of written English in the last three posts or so. Lol. Still to difficult to follow. Speak English you say? Sure I can help you. Lets start with this sentence by you : "What I sm saying is this: Israel pretends to act be like a civilised civilized country but in reality some of their policies vis a vis pPalestinians like its policy on illegal settlements is barbaric. The state of Israel is like what South Africa used to be, segregating people in ghettos...Israel is not a democracy by definition but a quasi secretive military complex.... " 1. When writing English and using correct grammar don't use ......., use one dot for a period. 2. There iis no such word as "quasi secretive". If you use "quasi" before a word you then must use a hyphen which looks like this -, however secretive is like the word pregnant. You either are or are not secretive. Being a little but secretive is impossible. What you could be is periodically secretive or at times secretive. 3. Please watch your spelling mistakes people have scolded me to for that. 4 .In the state of Israel there are no laws like there were in South Africa that segregate people based on skin colour or any other criteria. 5. The fact Israel has a military does not mean it is a democracy. That is nonsensical keeping in mind you do live in a fantasy world where you deny and ignore things such as Israel's Knesset which elects through open free elections MUSLIM Israelis to be members of the Knesset including Muslim Israelis who stand up in the Knesset demanding it disband itself. If you need any further English assistance go to ESL or just have Ghost write your responses. Hah. I am funny.
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Why look at it took you 60 seconds to react. ..... ..and her come the Kafirs, its Ghost, he slides it up to Kactus-look out, they both fell down...and its Moses, to Abraham, to Dog to Adam to Rue he scores! ..what the heck just happened...Don?...you ask me these boys skate like they're on sand.
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Again for someone who does not read my posts and can not be bothered to read what I write or as he suggests need to answer my words on this forum, look who is back seeking attention....lol you are one pathological masochist. I suppose any attention for you is better than none at all from me. Here you go./ no no no I don't read what you write um uh er ah well maybe not quite Rue must be a magic Joooish wand cuz I always keep feeling compelled to respond well I know I am being absurd but I can't allow Rue to have the last word my pathological obsession to put Jews in their place compels me to keep trying to get in Rue's face the more I respond I just can't seem to make sense maybe I should change my verb tense no matter what I write or say he just keeps getting his way he keeps getting me right in the gutt not to mention those bruises on my butt why does he feel he must make his poses when God damn it I am Pharoah to his Moses I demand he bow before his Master but he keeps turning it into a disaster just when I think I've dealt with his slime damn he comes up with another rhyme my Mama and Papa said Jews are no good but his kind have moved into my neighbourhood where I live Jews should not question I will give them commands never a suggestion to me a Jew is just a Yid see how high I get get my flared nostrils when I accuse Rue of ignoring the Apostles oh I know he is full of sin I was told by Mel Gibson oh but its time to switch this show I also need to insult a negro or is he just a Jew with dark skin but he could also be Alladin I better ask Altai and Kactus too could he be coloured and a Hebrew that explains why none of them behaves they all don't think they should be slaves imagine the nerve of not being my appendage like a pendant and assisting they be independent no no no this must stop please someone call a St. Louis cop ooh I hate Rue and gonna stare right at him and now I am finished with my tantrum Shalom goodbye yah yah this is the end well ok just until I feel another urge to offend.
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Lol the ones you told Argus look different. You sure they were not mistaking "Arabs" for "Jooooooz"?
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While you wrote the above I edited my article to avoiding the appearance you are being singled out. Trust me you are in good company and do yourself a favour phack off posing as a defender against Islamophobia. You are ironically just as guilty of it as you are anti Semitism.
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I'd say go to the Rest of The World section and any post pretexted with a discussion on Israel. I would argue Eye-Ghost-Hudson Jones-Altai-Kactus-Marcus, believe "they" know what his intent was and carry on their forum jihad for him. I say that with sheer contempt. Now that I am on the topic. Islam does have the potential like any religion to evolve past its vile concepts but I think its naïve to think its anywhere near that level at this time. I think our societies are riddled with violence because of material values and an absence of spiritual vales, but Muslims violent and intolerant because of their spiritual beliefs. That is of course my subjective opinion and that is all it is. I challenge the Koran spends over 50% of its contents defining why non believers are Kafir and how to hate, kill and imprison we non believers. As long as the majority of Muslims follow these beliefs about Kafir, which is a fact, the religion will fuel terrorism, anti-Semitism and discrimination against Kurds, Berbers, Assyrians, on and on, not to mention Israel and Jews. The religion fuels the concept that Jews can not have a Jewish state because they can not have the same land or state rights let alone any rights equal to a Muslim precisely because we are kafir.. That very Muslim belief is entrenched and quoted in the constitutions of the PA, Hamas, Hezbollah and the Jew free state constitutions of so many Arab league nations. Dhimmitude, the institutionalized apartheid of Christians and Jews is openly imposed. by such nations. These Muslim nations in fact kill more Muslims in the name of Islam than any non Muslim. If I thought other than Dialamah there was someone who truly was a Muslim with her beliefs I would be the first to defend them,I acknowledge any concern they have as to unfair stereotyping of Muslims as I now openly do to her yet again. Other than her words which I respect, all I read from others supporting Islam is bigoted crap and these are the same people claiming to defend against Islamophobia which to date, has never been defined. I totally support Dialamah's argument that we should not slur all Muslims for the beliefs of Muslim extremists and terrorists or fundamentalists. however I also think Muslim fundamentalists should be challenged no different than any other religious extremist fundamentalists when they become sexist, homophobic, bigoted, etc., which she has repeatedly conceded and been ignored saying. I openly call out any Muslim who uses their religion to discriminate against any nationality not just Jews and I see it all on the top on this forum pretexted as being only anti Israeli which is the expression of Jewish identity through a political collective. Our political expression is slurred, insulted, called racist and its used to attack not just alleged Zionists and Israelis but Jews and non Jews including Muslims who respect our right to be a political collective. The vile accusations we hate Palestinians, look different than Muslims and Arabs, hate Palestinians, it just flows and causes as much offence as probably what Dialamah feels from non Muslims on this forum. So I am not sure what to say to her other than I am disgusted with the same cognitive processes used against Jews she finds with Muslims and I have to acknowledge that. I personally believe the comments of Ghost, Eye, Altai, Marcus and Kactus have shown for example in the Rest Of The World thread on the alleged Netanyahy is blatant example of anti Jewish hatred done exploiting the Islam religion. I support moderate Muslims the same reason they support Israelis-because we are both like moderate Christians good people and simply want the same things. I am not about to read the excrement from Ghost, Eye, Kactus, et al on this thread. They demonstrate thre very bigotry against Jews they claim should not be done to Muslims. I stand by any Muslim who has had to escape Muslim hatred such as Amidyah. I support any Muslim who rejects using the Koran as some Christians do or some Jews do to justify hating people outside their religious beliefs. The majority of the world's civil wars and slaughters are being done by Muslim extremists. There's no room for liberal apologies for such crap. There will be far more war before Islam evolves to a peaceful way of life. Anyone who suggests otherwise should challenge their fellow Muslims and we non Muslims and prove to us we are wrong which is what Dialamah does. I can not belittle her for trying. I have to respect it. Respect is a 2 way street. I have edited this response.
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Its not an essay. Its responses to your comments. In your case I respond in Yiddish. Only one word is needed-PUTZ. Well maybe two, shmeel. Ok 3, shmo. O.k. 4, shlump.
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Calling you an anti semite and a liar, does not make me a victim. Do not delude yourself into thinking you or the hatred you stand for can victimize anyone let alone Jews. Your words are a joke. They are at this point cowardly. I have not taken your words out of context. I have given you opportunity after opportunity to come on this forum and state: 1-you recognize a Jewish state of Israel; 2-why Arabs, Azeris, Jews, etc., look different. You ran. You ran from me. You play pathetic semantic games where you refuse to recognize Israel as a Jewish state or prove your allegation Jews look different then Arabs. When caught and challenged you ran and you still do. As long as you come on this board and lie, mislead, misrepresent, I will challenge your hatred. Your words every last anti Jewish one are on this board and I have quoted them and challenged them because you smeer all THE Jews in your comments. You come on this forum denying you are an anti semite, and then in the next breath slur THE Jews. That makes you what you are, a bigot who denies what he says. You don't have the balls to admit what you are trying to cloak yourself and justify your hatred of Jews by saying you hate Saudi Arabia. What a friggin joke. Let me make clear how full of shit you are. You don't represent Palestinians you are an anti-Semite whose upbringing in Iran makesd you hate not just Jews but Sunni Muslims and Kurds as is evident in your responses to me. Deny it. Run from it. Hide what you are. Your very responses play the role of victim for being challenged for being a bigot. What you can't stand is I won't stay silent to your bigotry against Jews and let you victimize me or Kurds or Saudis anyone else you think makes you sound more credible when stereotyping them. For me you are nothing more than a jihadi warrior sofa boy and you really do need to put me on your banished list. As for your comment "we are the bad guys". There is no we. No matter how plural you make yourself you are not we. You are one bigot who speaks for himself. That's the difference between us. You smeer all Jews as thinking the same, I don't blame or assume any Iranian thinks like you except extremist Shiite bigoted ones. You are not a we. Stop inflating youself. You are just like me another putz on a forum exchanging your subjective views as to why you hate Jews, Zionists and Israel. Yer a dime a dozen in this word. By the way telling me I call "we " "the bad guys" is about as moronic as it gets. Bad guys? This isn't some pathetic fantasy you have with "good and bad guys" its about extremist terrorism being financed by Iran that terrorizes both Palestinians and Israelis equally.
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I numbered your comments to expedite responding to them. In regards to 1- go back and read my response. I gave an extensive list of the Jewish superheroes I am aligned with. In regards to 2-since you have stated and I quote; "I accept the right of Israel to exist in its own territory." 100 times, I guess this is my 101st reply stating you are a dishonest coward for making that statement. You will not come on this forum and state you accept Israel 's right to exist AS A JEWISH state in its own territory. You play semantics deliberately refusing to say you recognize the right of Israel to be Jewish. You engage in the semantic game Mr. Abbas now states where in one breath he says he will recognize Israel and then next breath states but only on the condition it first becomes majority Muslim. Everytime you repeat it and omit reference to trecognizing Israel as a Jewish state you show you are full of shit playing semantics. In regards to 4- in fact I did directly respond to the OP thread which in fact did not state what you said. The actual OP accused Netanyahu of being a racist. Then it was deflected not by me but anti Israel pissantes to then claim all Israelis are racist against Palestinians. Then they turned it into a general attack on Israel's existence as a Jewish state. I was not the one to deflect the thread. Your decision to single me out as deflecting from the thread and ignore all your anti Israel pissantes including you most of all deflecting from this thread using it as a pretext to call all Zionists racist, etc., speaks for itself and this is why you have no credibility. You not only forget what the op is, but you deny your role and the role of your Israeli puissant colleagues in engaging in the Israel pissing contest. I simply respond to the pissing and send your piss back where it originated from. You piss on Israel I will send it back in your face. In regards to 5, no I do not deflect, I respond to a deflection. In regards to 6, you recycle the Jewish canard that the concept of Jews being called the chosen people means we think we are superior to others. You then try couch it by using the word "some" before you say Jews. You do so because at the pith and substance of your argument is that Zionism is racism because Zionist Jews believe they are superior to Arabs. Zionism has nothing to do with race or religion. It has to do with the concept od defining Jews as a political collective equal not superior to any Muslim or Christian states. So you can make all the veiled reference to "some Jews" think they are superior and then use that as a pretense to piss on Israel but the fact is you don't engage in the same criticism of Muslim countries or terrorist cells who have superiority beliefs, and you do not come on this forum and say Islam by defining non believers as Kafir is a necessarily bigoted religion and it is this belief that non Muslims are kafir that cause is what is behind them refusing to consider Israel a Jewish state, because then Jews could own land, and have a legal state equal to Muslim states which is a direct challenge to the concept of Jews not being able to be equal and have a state or own land. In regards to 7, I will state it again-you slur me and Jews as thinking we are superior, you then being the anti semite you are select us out and accuse us all of hating Palestinians. This time you didn't couch your reference with "some" Jews or even "some" Israels you used the reference THE JEWS. That shows you attack all Jews. You single all Jews out and smeer us as hating Palestinians. You don't criticize Christians or people of any other religion of hating Palestinians just Jews, or as you stated THE Jews. That makes you a snively anti semitic bigot. You don't select out the Muslims of all the Middle East nations that discriminate against Palestinians, only THE Jews. In regards to 8, if I am an Israeli cheerleader because I defend Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state you bet. If I am an Israelio cheerleader because I challenge you using the pretext of discussing Israel to smeer THE Jews in one breath of all having the same belief, you bet. As doe your allegation I call people who disagree with me terrorists, uh no not at all. In fact JPG and I had a protacted dispute on this forum about him generalizing in a negative way about all Muslims. I never accused him fo being a terrorist. I've had the same argument with DOP, never called him a terrorist. I've called out Taxme as a neo Nazi, never called him a terrorist. I've called many people out on this forum, can't recall acusing anyone of being a terrorist. It wouldn't surprise me at all tough if Hudson Jones, Ghost, Eye, you,. Marcus, Altai, are sym;pathetic with and support Palestinian terrorists. In regards to 9, Zionism is not racism but you are an anti semitic bigot for chanting this statement. Zionism does not define Jews as a race and never has. It defines Jews as a political collective. You call it racist before you believe it defines Jews as a race. The concept that Jews are a race is a Nazi anti semitic canard brought to the Palestinian nationalist movementby the Mullah of Jerusalem an avowed Nazi. The fact you repeat his script says a lot. Nothing in Zionism defines a Jew or anyone else by race or for that matter by religion. You are an anti-Semite. You define Jews as a race. We are not a race. We are semites no different from Arabs. You define us as race, because the anti Zionist crap you repeat is based on defining Jews as thinking we are a superior race. Its called Nazi inversion. You accuse us of the very thing Nazis did to justify the holocaust knowing it insults Jews and calls us the same thing as Nazis when it is the Palestinian national movement that allied with the Nazis and ex Nazis who moved to Egypt, Syria and Iraq and ran their governments and failed to wipe out Jews a second time in the Middle Easy. You engage in this bull shit false canard precisely because you deflect from the actual thread and when you saw the word racism, jumped on it to repeat the same pathetic Zionism is racism canard. In regards to 10 In regards to 11, 21, 23, 27, 28 you again deflect the topic of the thread and and try engage me and all Jews n reference to stealing homes from Palestinians. In your selective analysis you ignore the actual fact that Muslims moving to the West Bank in fact took more land away from any Palestinians than any Israelis have to this day and this is precisely why Arafat blew up the land titles office-to hide this fact. To this day Muslims descended from Arabs who came to Palestine no differently than Jews and who illegally took the land from the existing Palestinian Muslims are ignored by you. You pretend they too are Palestinian. You apply a standard that when a non Muslims stole or physically took land from Muslim Palestinians this now qualifies them as being Palestinians but any Jew who was thrown out of Arab league nations and forced to flee to Israel and the Jews who always lived in Palestine and the Jews who fled the holocaust who came to Palestine-only they are thieves. This is why you are full of shit and have no credibility. You have no idea who Palestinians are. You buy into a script given to you by Arabs who in fact came to Palestine no different than Jews, the difference being Jews bought the land-Palestinians engaged in selling same parcel of land to dozens of Palestinians at the same time. I have stated settlements on the West Bank if there is to be a genuine peace have to be dismantled and Jews agree to leave the West Bank. What you will not discuss is Abbas has stated he will forcefully expel or kill 500,000 Jews in the Hebron area who have lived there for over 4,000 years anddo not recognize the state of Israel. He has also stated he won't accept a second Palestinian state on the West Bank and Gaza. He has said openly over and over no different than Hamas, until Israel pre 1967 is turned into a Muslim state by allowing any Arab who claims his blood line is Palestinian (with no test) to "return" to Israel when they have never lived there and be given land ownership immediately. So I have stated anti Israelis like you are full of shit. You pretend the only obstacle to peace is settlements. No its people like you who come on this forum and lie and couch their words and don't have the integrity to state they don't believe in a Jewish state of Israel and instead play semantics and deflect from their true agenda which is to argue a Jew is inferior to a Muslim and can't own land let alone have a state. In regards to 14 I have never come on this forum and ever suggested there are races let alone some or one superior to others which would constitute racism. You on the other hand call Zionism the concept of defining Jews as a political national collective as referring to us believing we are a superior race which makes you an anti semite. Your discrimination against believing Jews have the same right to a Jewish state no different than Muslim states makes you an anti semite. In regards to 15, I am a well known Kadima-Labour supporter. I always have supported Tzipi Levni but I have defended certain Israeli policies you do not understand and use as a pretext to call Netanyahu personal names. I agree with some but not all of his policies. I unlike you spend a considerable time reading Israeli state policies. They are complex and someone like Netanyahu must manage a coalition which necessarily does not allow him to be as partisan as you make him out to me. To last as long as he has, he had to learn to take completely different political parties and have them work together-you haven't a clue what he stands for-to you he is the leader of Israel, therefore someone for you to hate. In regards to 23, your use of the phrase "expansionist policies" is a code word for the anti Israeli myth that Jews want to take over the world and Israelis want to control all the Middle East and seize it. In fact it is the Koran and the constitutions of Hamas, Hezbollah, and the PA, not to mention over 300 other terrorist Palestinian cells that call for taking not just the West Bank and Gaza but all of Israel as the first step in creating a Palestinian sharia law state, which eventually is to amalgamate with all other sharia law Muslim states to run the entire world through a Muslim council. Interesting how you call Israel expansionist when its very enemies openly talk of their Muslim war to liberate the world from infidel and in that process wiping out all kafir. In regards to 25, thanks for sharing you hate Saudis. That is helpful to the peace process and having people believe you are respectful and loving. By the way for someone who is so concerned about stolen land, where were you when 900,000 Jews, of which 750,000 were forced to flee to Israel with nothing, from Arab countries in retaliation for Israel being created> Where were you when these Arab governments stole anything these Jews had? Where are you now expressing in a comprehensive peace settlement this has to be addressed no different than these alleged injustices to Palestinians? Why the silence? Where were you when Arab League nations imprisoned millions of Palestinians in camps saying, they would use them as pawns, until they get Israel back and in that process of imprisoning them stole all their property..where were you when Nasser created the Gaza strip as an open air jail to imprison Palestinians and set his army in and striopped them of their belingings? Where were you when Syria's army, Lebanon's Army, then Hamas and Hezbollah did the same to Palestinians. Where were you when the Palestinian Auuthority stole billions in foreign aid and still does leaving its people to depend on the Israelis to feed them? What selective world do you live in because I will tell you thins, you have never been to the West Bank or Gaza or Jordan or Israel. You haven't a clue who stole from who. You instead spew scripts left over from Nazis who moved to the Middle East after WW2 and then the KGB. You don't even have a clue where the script you spew comes from/ In regards to 26, you are full of it. In one breath you claim you don't support terrorism, then in the next breath repeat the Hamas-PA script verbatim. In regards to 29, let me state it again, I provide all the words from you I challenge. I think the words I show you to have stated evidence are an anti Israeli, anti-Jewish people bigot trying to justify and purify your hatred by claiming its simply you defending Palestinians. You could care less who Palestinians are. you have never been to the West Bank, You use them as a pawn, a pretense, an excuse. You exploit them worse than any Zionist you call names. In regards to 30 and 32 I have with specific words exposed you as a manipulative, dishnest bigot trying to deflecy by accusing others of the very bigotry you spew. You came on this thread and tried to accuse Argus of lumping all Arabs in a herd because he rightfully pointed out there is no distinguishable physical characteristics in the Middle East and Islam in the Middle East is not democratic, its imposed in Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc., by Mullahs enforcing archaic codes of behaviour. If you want to deny the Muslim world of the Middle East is a series of out of control mobs killing each other knock yourself out Paint it is utopia with civilized people unique in expression and belief and where individuality is cherished and nourished. Only save that shit, for some guilt ridden liberal. You came on this forum and in your knee jerk reaction to try activate accusations of intolerance against him and incite liberal guilt you showed what a racist and bigot you are and you repeat it yet again in your latest response. The genertic differences you refer to do NOT and have never made the people you claim have these genetic differences look different. These are invisible differences to the human eye. More importantly you keep dwelling on these genetic differences as being politically significant. That then makes you a pathetic racist trying to use genetic difference to argue political, national and religious differences. I not you argued from the get go the genetic differences between Azeri, Jewish, Arab, Kurd, Persian do not make them look different and any differences were political or religious or even caused by difference in clothing,. You flipped and flopped quoting articles that supported by contention these genetic differences are irrelevant-they don't define Jews or Palestinians or Muslims as races. They don't make us look different. Look at your words. Of course we look like each other. Who the phack do you think we are> If we do not look like each other, then we necessarly must look different. You keep calling Argus the racist for saying we look the same to him. You are the racist. Its you who sees the differences and when I ask why do we "look different" explain the physical characteristics that make us look different you refused to answer knowing any answer would necessarily engage in racist stereotypes. So call me all the names you wan Kactus but I have read your script. Its identical to the script Marcus and Hudson Jones use. You engage in the same canards, he same anti semitic references couched as being anti Israeli and the same bull shit claims you speak for Palestinians when you never met one but man they are convenient aren't they. As for your comments that you don't defend sharia law you sure as hell do. The very reason you don't dare state you agree in a Jewish state of Israel is because you believe in sharia law and it prohibits you from saying that. You remain silent and refuse to condone Altai's use of the word khafir on this board knowing to do so you would be an unloyal Muslim to your cause. You deny that? Go on deny it. Go on. Sit on your ass when you see someone engaging in Mulsim extremist beliefs and remain silent and then in the next breath say you don't support their beliefs. Who you playing with Kactus? You think I give a flying phack what you are afraid to state on this board? When you have the balls to state to me to my face, you don't believe in a Jewish state of Israel because of your Muslim religious beliefs, then I might take you with some seriousness. But you don't. You hide our religion, your hide your true agenda. You spit out your nudge nudge wink wink coded words, Zionism is racism, Arabs don't look like Jews, THE Jews hate Palestinians-who the phack do you fool? Oh but hey you hate Saudi Arabia. That was brave. You come on this board and spit at Saudi Arabia which has nothing to do with this thread and you were the same whiny individual who told me I raised Iran in these communications back and forth with you because I am obsessed with hating Iran. Tell me, tell the board why you hate Saudi Arabia. Tell them why. Tell them what your political beliefs are and why you support Iran and not Saudi Arabia. Tell them why you would support Assad an Alawite who are less than 2% of the country instead of the 80% of Sunnis who live in Syria. Go on. I aint stopping you. Tell me why you support Iran and share Turkish animosity against Kurds? You have me confused with someone liberal and guilt ridden. Save your pathetic role playing as he defender of Palestinians for someone else.
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Sorry your English got a bit garbled on that one. Feel free to respond in Arabic or Farsi. .
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Well now its a good thing we have Altai on this thread contributing salient insight as to the issues.
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You do all the time as in the above and as evidenced on this thread. The continuing denial of what you have written again speaks to your pathological lying which at this point is hilarious to read.
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Don't practice medicine. Prostates have nothing to do with the digestive system. It explains a lot about you though.
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Listen at this point given the Eye-Ghost-Kactus-Marcus-Hudson Jones-Altai shtick aint goin so well, why not add on Brother Hamesh.... the more personalities the better.
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Look out, Larry, Moe, now Curly Joe on the attack! Hey now are "you" making fun of my prostate? I am flattered it takes so many personnas to defend against me. What now is it Kactus at this point, do I call you Sybil? .
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Sounds like an echo in here. You done with the "tag team"? Oh wait hear comes kactus to the rescue.
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Now wait a second. I took a lot of time drafting that rap. Now tell me if I am a liar, that means you want Jews to remain in Israel in an Israeli Jewish state then, is that right? Please clarify because from were I sit, you do not and have never recognized the right of Jews to return to Israel and have a state there. Please, tell me I am wrog. Tell me you believe Jews have a right to a Jewish state in Israel and should not be told to go back to Europe. Please enlighten me. Good God. How long do you want to pay tag team and deny what ever name you are or claim to be as a singular or plural you are a liar precisely because you don't think Jews have a right to live in a Jewish state of Israel and do not think it is their homeland. At least have the balls "one of you" to stop lying and spit it out. You think coming on this forum and stating what you do indicates you believe in a Jewish state and do not think Jews should have stayed in Europe and gone back there before and after they started the Jewish state of Israel? Its over. This thread is an epic failure and you have on cue whatever your tag team name of the moment is, have stated the exact same opinions, the exact same denials of those opinions and the double standard that Muslims should have states but Jews should not have just 1. Go hold "Ghost's" hand. He seems to be pouting.
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In regards to your first sentence, knowing what a pathological liar you are, I always quote your words when I challenge them, In regards to your second sentence that kind of petulant response is expected. It also shows you have this need to continue responding to me and reading what I write which you also denied. You are past pathetic. Knock yourself out.
