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Bull shit. Anyone can say a legal system is flawed simply because you don't like the legal decision a jury makes. That does not make it flawed however. You mistake not approving of a jury's finding with a legal system being flawed. Go on finish it. What is flawed about our justice system. What a sweeping statement. That's one big system you call flawed. I doubt you even have a clue what the courts are in Canada, who has jurisdiction over them, what their rules of evidence and procedure are. Until you do, your partisan knee jerk reaction to a decision you do not like does not mean the system is flawed. Good luck explaining why its flawed. You haven't a clue how the system even works given you applaud politicians who undermine the integrity of the independence of the legal system. Also the fact you refer to it as the "justice" system and not legal or criminal system says a lot. As a lawyer the first thing I have learned is that when laymen use the word "justice" they mean "revenge". Tell you what. I could spend hours discussing ways to improve our legal system but throwing it all out in the wash as you have with one foul pronouncement is b.s. Compared to the majority of the world we are damn lucky to have the legal system we have warts and all.

You clearly ignored his point. In Canadian law a Prime Minister and elected officials can NOT question the verdict of juries which is what the PM and three cabinet Ministers did. This undermines the judicial independence of the jury and undermines the entire judicial legal system. Justin Trudeau, his Justice Minister and his two cabinet members did not have the information the jury had. They do not know what evidence they had and considered. His Justice Minister should be disbarred. It is a gross violation of legal ethics of any lawyer to openly question a jury's decision. You don't get it why? Why would anyone want to engage in jury duty if they know they will be ridiculed and questioned by politicians and/or the press? How are they supposed to feel safe and be able to discuss things without fear of retaliation? Maybe in your world you want lynch mobs that define guilt by public outcry but I do not. I do not want some snot faced, partisan idiot, undermining the entire legal system so he can avoid the appearance of being unpopular to native people. Trudeau, and his cabinet members are cowards. This whole sordid episode shows just how lacking in principle and integrity Trudeau is. He's a pandering whore. He exists to pander and constantly do things to maintain his image. That makes him a narcissistic moron and an irresponsible idiot. It is not up to any politician to turn our legal system into an arena to exploit politically for their own needs. The basic ability to be democratic requires a complete detachment from elected officials and our juridiciary.Any appearance of influencing our judiciary destroys it. You would be the first to come on this forum and piss your pants accusing Harper of trying to influence the Supreme Court of Canada's role and decisions, now, well hey now, when Justin does it, suddenly its a responsible thing to do? I call bullshit. If you do not understand why politicians should not undermine the integrity of jury decisions go find out why instead of trying to pose Justin as some kind of compassionate hero. He is nothing but a pandering whore to public opinion panicking at anything that might make him look bad. Next I notice a lot of our journalists now asking why juries should not speak to the press and explain their positions like they do in the states. More bullshit. If someone needs an explanation as to what legal issues were considered they must ask the Judge not the Jury. In Canada our law does not permit pestering the jury as to its decision because it undermines the ability of the juries to deliberate without fear of future ridicule by the press and making decisions based only on pleasing the press. Got it? The press can consult their legal staff to understand what issues were considered. Next and you clearly did not give it a thought, how does the Crown now launch an appeal and how can the matter ever be sent back to another jury now that Trudeau et al have poisoned the atmosphere contaminating any prospective juror pool? Trudeau is an idiot. His Justice Minister is a coward. His Indian Affairs Ministers are pathetic political toads.

No it directly responded to your words which you now have no idea how to defend so now want to run from.. Its what you do, make subjective statements, state you care only about your own opinions, and then when you can not control the responses to agree with your statements, try change the topic so you can try control what can be discussed so you can control the reponses. The question you asked was already answered long ago. When you did not like the answer, you switched the topic.

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https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150722184125-kim-jong-un-sister-north-korea- todd-dnt-tsr-00002210-large-169.jpg I split it up so the picture does not show on the screen which I believe is a copyright no no.

Get some glasses. I sent a picture of her in the next post. Korea has some of the most beautiful women in the world yes just go to: https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/most-beautiful-korean-actresses That said, in this day and age of Me Too, I have ot b e correct how far I go in responding to you. Now in regards to North Korean women, I think they could kick ass. I pass. https://www.google.ca/search?q=North+Korean+women&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiAlJrjl6bZAhVM5IMKHZJ5DxUQ_AUICigB&biw=1920&bih=974#imgrc=MoWLVoq7Syh5QM:

I appreciate you use the "Conservative" and "Liberal" labels referring to specific political parties. Interestingly free trade is neither a "Liberal" or "Conservative" ideology if we go by the actual true definitions of both belief systems, i.e., Bentham-Hobbers/Liberal, ad Burke-Conservative.. If anything Libertarians would argue no regulations as to trade is their brainchild. Free trade is actually today's multi-national interests trying to avoid paper work and interference from governments as their transactions move from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. One world government is a concept that would turn us all into blobs run by a very elite few with the rest of us molded into a serving class. China with another name.

Most reasonable people without a preconceived bias about his opinions would know the following comment was said tongue in cheek: "Sometimes I think Andrew Coyne is an idiot, and sometimes I think he's pretty savvy. This tends to depend, of course, on how much he agrees with me, or I with him." But then I appreciate nuances are difficult for some to grasp.

Its Russian disinformation.There's a cold war going on between Russia, China and the US. Disinformation places a shred of truth with a whole bunch of sheeyat so it sounds plausible. The fact is most Western countries have elite forces. Hell Canada has our elite secret unit in Ukraine running commando attacks into Russia on the Uke border. You ever read it on the news? Fact is commando elite units are all over the place. No one knows for sure what their purpose and target is or ever will. Not even the soldiers being trained know.

That was funny. Made my day.

Those articles you call fake are classic Russian disinformation posts. But hey what do I know.

The fact that Arafat invented the term Palestinian in 1967 to be specific after the failed Black Sabbath uprising does not mean today there are not Palestinians. I would be the first to point out how the term Palestinian was reinvented in 1967 to be a retroactive definition different then it was ever used for. However, so what? So phacking what? If the people on the West Bank call themselves Palestinians..if the people in Gaza call themselves that.... that is what the phack they are. Its called common sense. Arguing over the name to use to describe them is bull crap. We have enough idiots on this forum telling Jews they can't call themselves Israelis. Don't ask me to engage in the same bigotry against Palestinians. Revisiting old issues like this do what? They empower Jew and Israeli haters to make their comments and then what? Should I piss on Palestinians for calling themselves that? No thanks. I will let the Hacked and Eye and Hudson Jones, Marcus, Kactus et al tell people who they can be and where. I find them full of sheeyat for doing that. So I aint doing the same thing to Palestinians. They have a right to call themselves what they want. That's not the issue. It never was. The issue is far deeper then that.

Again you make dismissive comments as to relevance. You fail to differentiate your personal opinions as to what is relevant from what others think and have the right to think. You show in each and every response a narcissistic defect, an inability to separate your opinion from those of others. Your comment shows yet again you make pronouncements that the only opinion that counts is yours. You don't express it as your personal opinion specific to you but in a general decree " It's completely irrelevant to the topic". It may be completely irrelevant to the topic for you at this point but again as I have repeatedly stated you do not speak for me, other Jews or other holocaust survivors, or the relatives of holocaust survivors as well as others none of those, who believe there is a direct causation between the expression of the Jewish collective identity through a state and you and Eye choosing to take a topic like Jerusalem and turn it into a pretext to lecture Jews that they should have created a country in Germany and we have no existential connection to Israel because you say so. You simply show again you are dismissive because you are ignorant. You are ignorant because you use words to dismiss the opinions of others as irrelevant. That is the epitome of ignorance-the act of blocking out by dismissal any thought but your own. It shows close minded, bigoted, narcissistic defect when trying to deal with opinions other than your own. I never once stated my links to Israel or Germany is relevant to the topic of where Jews can live in Israel. You did. Your attempt to twist what you did on this forum in your words to suggest I hijacked the thread to change the topic is laughable. Its the other way around as anyone can read...but again I expect that pathological circular denial from you. When you find yourself in a position you can't defend you try bait and switch. Does it look like it works on me? Now the topic which I did not start or hijack presumes to tell Jews where they can live in Jerusalem. It then spread to the German comments BY YOU and EYE. The two of you have made such comments before in other threads. When I responded calling you a presumptuous, insensitive hateful individual presuming to tell victims of the holocaust they should live in the country of the holocaust you told me my Jewishness was not relevant to the topic. When you got caught flat faced in that bigoted comment you now do what...why of course you try slip and slide your way out of the comments you made claiming I raised them? Lol. My words on this thread and yours are there for all to trace and see how you used this thread to challenge we Jews as to where to live and when challenged you could offer not a shred of objective argument for your idiotic comments that Jews are not native to all of Jerusalem.

I am and there is no secret a Canadian and swear allegiance to Canada. I volunteered in Israel. I was part of things and witnessed things in regards to terrorism you will never understand. You also clearly do not understand that my Jewish identity and its link to the collective Jewish identity expressed through Israeli statehood is real. Its something you refuse to recognize. You refuse to recognize I have a link to Israel as a German who lives in Canada would to Germany or an Irish person has to Eire or an Italian to Italy, etc. My connection to Israel and its role in enunciating my collective identity is not the same as yours. The way you stated what you did in the above sentence is classic. It as usual attempts to tell me my Jewish self identity and how I perceive it in a greater collective context is no different than yours. This is not about opinions. This is about you trying to tell me how to define my identity. You have zero, I repeat zero right to do that. The fact you think you can and continue to try do so makes you a presumptuous bigot. More to the point I could care less what you think of my self identity and how I define it-my point is not to have you agree with me-its to challenge you for being a bigot and assuming you can tell anyone let alone me a how we should define ourselves. Israel is and will remain an essential integral link to the collective identity of my Jewishness and I don't care you don't care to recognize that but shut up telling me how I should define myself. Now your comment about Germany was pathetic. You and Eyeball have repeatedly suggested on this board and did on this thread for all to read, that Jews SHOULD made a country out of part of Germany. Now you try back track and pretend you didn't say that and I project it on you? Right. Yes that's right you have no family that died in Germany and in the holocaust so shut the phack up telling any holocaust survivor from Germany they should live in a country that slaughtered their loved ones. The remaining words from you again evidence your narcissism and victim role playing. Your words have been given back to you when they have been challenged. You are no victim. Your words have clearly been challenged and when you have no idea how to substantiate or defend them, turn yourself into a victim of me, Dog, the moderator whatever. Take responsibility for your ignorant assumptions about Jews and how we should define ourselves and where we should live and don't lecture me or any Jew about how we should identify ourselves or where we should live. Calling your reference to a country in Germany a reference unattached to a lecture to Jews as to where we should live was laughable but expected.

Martin Luther King showed the way a long time ago how to deal with hatred. It requires groups come together to share common goals not single out hatred in different categories and then enter into pissing contests as to whose discrimination is more serious. That is what I and PIK and many others have argued and will continue to argue. If some of you leftist high almighty moral guardians of the galaxy don't get that who gives a shit. I stand by PIK's words. You want to censor him because you disagree with him, kiss my coalition butt.

Why will it only be right wingers? What makes you think you or MH are not as intolerant and extremist? You two shit your pants over anyone not agreeing with you. You can't fathom the possibility you are every bit extremist as any right winger you imagine. The decision to invent the word Islamophobia with no definition, just a general open ended reference as to what it MIGHT include is bullshit. That is neither a left or right wing thing to say its a fact. The decision to use an open ended ambiguous reference to single out one group's religion based on the death of 6 Muslims was reactionary. It was classic reactionary fascism implemented by Trudeau not a conservative to pander to fearful Muslims. The kind of mental process that led the person to kill the 6 Muslims is no different at one level then MH's amd your reactionary extremist beliefs to anyone who disagrees with you as to how we can constructively discuss religious intolerance. You two need to give you it a rest with your moral blowing. What PIK and I and many have suggested is there is a way to discuss constructively and passionately and sensitively, hatred or ignorance or discrimination. Knee jerk reactions with meaningless ambiguous references is bull shit. All it did was obscure what happened and its implications so a bunch of pathetic politicians could pander to Muslim votes in the next election. The meaningful discussion without phony reactionaries like you who would not know a Muslim if one bit you in the ass is taking place between inter-faith groups. It started long before you jumped on the bandwagon and will continue long after you move on to your next trendy cause of the day.

1. Its dangerous to try get free legal advice on an internet political forum site. What next you want to have people diagnose if you have a brain tumour? 2. How could you not find provincial parks on the internet? All you had to do was type in "provincial parks Canada"? I doubt you would build anything. I do see you though as someone who is a lazy sob and has a idea he wants to trespass now and take over someone's cabin that they don't live in all the time. Peekaboo I know you. Careful now,. Sounds like someone is going to load your butt full of buckshot.

You just finished lying about my position on a two state solution for the Middle East and you want to accuse Dog of misrepresenting what people say? Lol. Go on produce his response. Lol. Everytime you respond you perform yoga. It must stink up there. Pull it out man.

Where did I say it made me special? I am from a family that survived the holocaust. Don't tell me where I should live let alone where the slaughter took place. Is that hard for you to fathom? Where do you or Eye or anyone get to tell anyone who survived the holocaust including Jews where they should live? Look at your answer. You can't even grasp that basic point. You have to try turn it as a reference to you as if your German ancestry gives you the phacking right to tell anyone where they can live. Go on continue. This is why I consider you to be the most ignorant of the anti Israelis on this board. Your ignorance never rests. Your need to lecture and presume to tell Jews anything oozes from your pores. You can't help yourself. Some of your family came from Germany what does that mean. Go on finish it. Explain how your family died in the holocaust and decided to remain. Very few German Jews did. The memories were too difficult for them. How is that hard for you to fathom? Why not have Jews then move to Osweiz/Aushwitz and set up condos using your reasoning? You are past the point of anyone taking you seriously. Your need to lecture and patronize is clearly out of your control.

In regards to your first statement you came on this board assuming you can tell the victims of the holocaust where they should live. The fact that you refer to the movement of Jews to Palestine as brutal dispossession shows you have never been to Israel or the West Bank and have no clue of its history and come on this board thinking your knowledge from the internet which evidently stereotypes all Israelis as dispossessing brutes is infallible. I don't defend any words but my own and only when they are misrepresented. You have a right to disagree with them. DOP speaks for himself. You and Hudson Jones and Ghost et al, you all of course are individuals with individual opinions. There's no pattern or script. Of course. I have never denied the mistreatment of Jews in Canada. Why would I. Provide one post where I have. You see this is the kind of misrepresentation I come on this board to combat. This thread as are all anti Israeli threads a pretense so that non Jews like you think you can use this forum to tell Jews how we should refer to our mistreatment as if we need you to talk down to us to tell us how to discuss and understand our treatment. Again you act like some privileged rich elitist snot nosed bigot presuming to tell Jews how to discuss themselves. I know my history and the history of my people. My mother's side of the family were refugees and they tried to deport her. Don't lecture me. Just once show enough sense to stop. What I have said is the issue as to how this government treated Jews and for that matter aboriginals, Siekhs, Chinese, etc., is public record. I can say without doubt all immigrants from all ethnic groups faced similiar or equally as trying or unfair legal issues when coming to this country. As a Jew I do not refer to our history in Canada without paying equal respect to all other ethnic groups and aboriginals. Its called humility. I also unlike you do not exploit Canada's errors of the past in some half-assed attempt to piss on Jews for living in Israel or not choosing to live in Germany. Dog on the Porch and I are on opposite sides of the Jewish debate and always have been. Figure out what in what he says or I say we agree with and what we don't. Stop being lazy and misrepresenting us.

Half my family came from Germany and were slaughtered there so to continue to read the arrogant, idiotic crap you spew on this forum which shows you presume to tell me or any of my people what the holoaust means to us and where we should live speaks loudly. Your words are pathetic. They reflect the words of an elitist sheltered Prince whose entire reality is constructed on self entitlement and the internet. The fact you would even answer the above shows just how pathological your need is to patronize Jews or any victims of genocide.

And with that latest divine issuance who the hell needs Nostradamus. The prophet/holyGhost has spoken.

Mr. Dobbs, you back? Lol you write as long as me. Hah. I don't think the remaining kabal of leftist Trudeauites on this board will be able to handle you. You used more then one verb. But hey I love it. There was Justine saying vets are asking too much, lecturing and not using the word MANKIND (you hear that Mick Foley!!!!) and hey comparing terrorists from ISIL trying to get back to Canada as no different then Italian immigrants. Makes sense. ISIL are misunderstood immigrants. Welcome to the world of Justine Trudeau. In a way I wish Ms. Carolyn Mulroney ran against him federally. Battle of the dynasties. This precious gem of a Prime Minister Mr. Dobbs is an irritant, a very large hemeroid.

You were not in the holocaust. You did not experience it. You did not suffer in it. So Shut the phack up presuming to tell Jews wt they should have settled in the country that was primarily responsible for the holocaust. What presumption. What rank arrogance. You think you can lecture me or any Jew where we should have and should live? Where do you get off? Listen to you and Ghost jumping all over each other in some orgy to tell Jews our place in life. What a pathetic bunch of bigots.

More brilliant commentary from the other Jewish expert. Of course it wouldn't dawn on him that the majority of those killed were not German Jews not to mention as Porch suggested the notion of having people live where they were exterminated. Makes perfect sense. I get raped, tortured, have my family massacred I want to live where it happened. Makes perfect sense. I mean without these brilliant experts on Jews and where they should live what would I do. Again the obsession with the need to tell Jews where they should live is past absurd-its pathological. Its a pathological obsession with needing to put Jews in their place. Plus reading back this individual's further comments, he can't fathom that Jews in the holocaust were raped and murdered. The word rapist and rape confuses him. I mean the Germans rape Jews spiritually, physically, literally during the holocaust? No can't be. Porch was being hyperbolic.