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Another example of bull shit. There were many maps exchanged. Abbas never made an offer to recognize Israel as a Jewish state. His alleged offer was to consider a state of Israel provided it was not Jewish and took in at minimum sufficient Muslims who had never been born or lived in Israel to turn Israel into a majority Muslim state. That was a joke and still is a joke. The only offer Abbas has put on the table is one that Israel ceases to be a Jewish state and turns into a Muslim majority state with Muslims never born in Israel. The test for these Muslims which Marcus is well aware and won't admit is that its subjective-any Muslim can call themselves a descendant of a "Palestinian" and they must be given automatic Israeli right of return and not just citizenship but LAND. In Abbas' idiotic semantic attempt to extinguish Israel as a Jewish state he has openly stated 250,000 non Israeli ultra orthodox Jews who do not want to live in Israel and may not even recognize the state that they must leave for Europe as well as the millions of Israeli Jews who would be displaced by as Marcus says up to 7 million Palestinians. The Arab League has never made an offer to recognize Israel as a Jewish state-its offer is also contingent on any Muslim claiming to be a Palestinian the right of automatic citizenship and land ownership in Israel. Marcus does not have the integrity to tell the truth and disclose any offer is not to recognize a Jewish state but only a Muslim majority state that would replace Israel. He plays the usual idiot game that he can pretend recognizing a Muslim majority Israel state that would displace millions of Israeli Jews and leave them homeless is reasonable. Bullshit. Absolute bullshit. Marcus does not and will die before it ever comes from his extremist position that a Jewish state can exist in Israel. Its a hatred and religious belief he was born with and will die with and with that kind of entrenched hatred the position Michael Harder poses as the great white missionary come to listen and develop insight from the disputing factions is shown for what it is a joke. People born with this kind of entrenched religious bullshit don't change. They are interested in one thing-their thing. You might have a chance with their children or grandchildren but not the Marcus' of the world who feel divinely appointed by Allah and Muhammed to deliver the world from Jews.

I am calling this individual out again as an absolute falsehood. There was never any offer by any Palestinian let alone the Arab League to recognize Israel as a Jewish state with ANY borders of any kind. This is precisely why he provides no sources. He has fabricated an out and out falsehood. Its time this bullshit came to an end.

You mean mediate. No sovereign can arbitrate, i.e., impose a legal decision on another sovereign nation. You might want to start with a basic fundamental understanding of the limitations of international law. International law is not contrary to what you may think constituted by certain countries ganging up on another and demanding it do things. Next, appeasement of terrorism does not avoid terrorism or even defuse it , it fuels it. The last thing you do with terrorists is to cower from them. No they don't turn rational and sit at a table with you. This is your delusional state that the boogy man will turn nice if you smile at him. Do yourself a favour, remain in Mama's basement. I've seen plenty of your kind. They walk into neighbourhoods and say "yoh man what's up". They can't possibly understand why they were stabbed. Good God man you might want to start by removing that golf ware. That Arnold Palmer look don't work in Jerusalem.

Whatever that means MH you've been engaging in platitudes. Read them back. You are just another deluded missionary thinking you understand and can bring your superior way of thinking and values to what you think are savages fighting. Your just a dime a dozen white boy colonialist assuming a tone of patronizing assumptions. Anyone can come on this forum like you and pontificate the hollow sanctimony you do. Thanks but you sound like some inspid missionary complete with the tone of holier then thou pronouncements. The only reason anything might come about in the Middle East is because people will have run out of people to kill. You don't get that because its no different then what goes on in your own back yard, the one you pretend does not exist. Look in your own back yard Mr. Holier then thou who thinks he can sit with Hamas and develop insights. Just how many walls and solitudes are in your own backyard? The people you think you will understand and develop insight from are already dead. The only thing they have to offer you is a reflection of your own delusional state of superiority and fear of death.

Talk about empty and meaningless statements. What bullshit. Get out of your bubble. No one in Fatah or Hamas or Islamic Jihad or Al Qaeda, Daesh, PFLP, ona nd on are going to talk to you let alone provide you any "side". Would you stop posing as some great white saviour who can mediate the savages. Get over your superiority complex.

You don't have an understanding of the world. You have a subjective bias against Israel that you express on this forum. You don't speak for the world or understand it. Its a delusion. You project your subjective opinion as being the world's opinion. The fact that you even attempt to claim you understand the world is idiotic to the extreme but then I don't doubt you think quite highly of yourself.

This is an empty and obvious statement.

I made myself clear earlier. Basing decisions on fearing the anger or tantrums of others is illogical. You may have been brought up to avoid confrontation and appease people who have tantrums and engage in terror and violence, but I and others have not.

Don't misquote me. I have many times stated I support a two state solution. Your technique of coming on this board to deliberately misquote to bait is childish. Knock it off.

At this present time no. The riots you see are not simply about choice of capital, its the very idea of a Jewish state. The collective psyche of the Arab world has not budged an inch since it lost its war of 1948. Its fixated still on winning back what it thinks are Jews violating sharia law and the place of a kafir-dhimmi-infidel Jew in the world of Islam, i.e., not allowed to own land, have equivalent legal rights to Muslims, a state, etc. Then again people thought the IRA would never disarm or give up on taking back Northern Ireland. Unfortnately the Muslim concept of dhimmitude is over 3,000 years old and still being taught. Now in Israel the only thing I can tell you is the majority of Jews are non religious-they don't practice Judaism in an entrenched or even organized manner. The actual percentage who are orthodox and you'd expect to be extremist are a minority and of course of those orthodox, half those orthodox don't even consider themselves part of Israel. The others are where the entrenched extremists come from but they remain a minority of Jews in not just Israel's 6.5 million people but in the total of 14.5 million Jews of the entire world. But hey Ghost thinks he knows the entire Israeli psyche. I mean he found a you tube tape of a fat boy saying Jews should not marry Muslims. There you go. From that he knows Netanyahu and Israel are collectively evil. I mean who am I to argue with such brilliant extrapolation. The problem is though mainstream belief in a sharia law system that defines any non Muslim as a dhimmi remains MAINSTREAM in the Arab world. Its not just a minor segment of the population. Its a tough egg to crack. Mostly the progressive Muslims who have moved on from literal and fundamentalist Muslim beliefs have to leave Muslim countries and they fear speaking out. We do have some who speak out loudly in Canada for progressive Muslim beliefs. Ironically they would be the first to find people like MarcusKactusHudsonJonesGhost the problem not you or me. They would agree with you on Muslim extremism. They came here to get away from it. I know some of them very well. Like me they don't like trendy leftists who pretend to understand our ideas and ethnicity. They don't get us as you do. They don't get it. They don't get we want no favours, no special treatment, nothing other than the same things you do, living in a world where there is no bull shit two faced feigned liberal tolerance which selects out the political flavour of the day to shed a tear on. I know Muslims in the IDF. I know Beduins. I know Druze, I know Christians. I know Bahaiis. I know them as Israelis. I know some of them as Palestinians or Lebanese, Syria, Iraqi, Jordanian, Egyptian. They like me and you have no time of day for the excrement you see written on this board. Worst thing I have had to do in life is learn my equality to my Muslim and Christian friends by learning we all blow up the same way and smell the same way when we rot, but so be it. It was a basic lesson. It makes the bullshit I read on this board fun. I love it when people like Marcus run and put people on denial or like Omni pull this bullshit that they had a relative who was a "Jew" so they are not "anti-semitic" and presto because of that relationship to a "Jew" everything they say becomes magically credible. Lol. They play the Joo card, the MUZlim card, whatever card they can to avoid having to defend their stupidity and hide behind their self proclaimed ethnic titles. What a fucking joke to come on this board and say, hey my opinion is valid because my father WAS a Jew. Look out you think Omni inherited any of his Jooishness? Does Omni have hypochondria, a large nose, does he produce movies in Hollywood or is he a doctor, dentist or stand up comedian. My guess is he works in plumbing at Home Depot with the other gentiles and Punjabis. (look at that wasn't politically proper) Listen I don't like Trump for many reasons like you. However the Jerusalem issue is in the entire scheme of the conflict in the Middle East and the world insignificant and I think continuing to placate the Arab collective denial of the existence of Israel is stupid. So if its Jerusalem to kick start a new round of talks so be it. The problem is Trump has done so many bad or stupid things, if he does things that might make sense, people have given up on him now. People knee jerk react to anything he does now forgetting his office is far bigger than just his ego and fat head. The no.1 danger to the world right now I think is North Korea, then Iran, then China. Take your pick and as much as I hate Trump and think he's a nut, I think the people who advise him militarily can control him and unlike Obama at least get Iran and North Korea and the b.s. going down with Erdogan, Abbas et al. I am afraid you are right Argus. Any peace if it ever comes about is long after we are dead and that's provided that stupid fat boy in Pyong Pen or the Muslim extremists running Iran and being financed by them or Saudi Arabia don't blow us up first. This much I can guarantee you. No Jew is going to blow you up. If nothing else we need you as patients or clients or to laugh at our jokes or put in our porno movies. (that was a joke)

I would not waste my time writing any further of my own words other than to provide the sources for the Israeli legal arguments to Jerusalem: http://www.jcpa.org/text/israel-rights/kiyum-gold.pdf http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Israels-right-to-Jerusalem-established-firmly-in-international-law-494977 http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/mike-fegelman/jerusalem-israel_b_2735338.html http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/223183 http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=7&x_issue=4&x_article=2577 https://unitedwithisrael.org/israel-is-the-legal-occupant-of-jerusalem-judea-and-samaria-rules-the-court-of-appeal-of-versailles/ http://www.mythsandfacts.org/NOQ_OnlineEdition/Chapter3/jerusalem1.htm No one on this board speaking against Israel is interested in any position that sees both sides of the argument. I do. I am not arguing Jerusalem is unilaterally only Israel's. I am saying it should ideally be a capital to two peaceful states. I am saying that will never happen as long as Palestinian leaders/terrorists and the Arab League refuse to recognize Israel as a Jewish state.

Hey Moe who you kidding. You read everything I write. Peekaboo I see you.

I will first in this post deal with the actual population of Jerusalem and East Jerusalem. In the next post I will then deal with legal scholar Omni’s claim Jews in East Jerusalem are “illegal”. To start with: 1-Israel’s population is 8,680,000. 2-6,484,000 (74.4%) are Jewish. 3-1,808,000 are Arabs (Muslims) (20.8%) 4-The remainder including Christians, bahaiis make up 388,000 people (4.5%). 5a-Jerusalem has the largest population of any city in Israel at 865,700. source for above: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/latest-population-statistics-for-israel 5b-Question: What is the population of Jerusalem? Answer: Jerusalem (ירושלים), Israel (Administrative unit: Yerushalayim) - last known population is ≈ 865 700 (year 2015). This was 10.735% of total Israel population. If population growth rate would be same as in period 2008-2015 (+1.88%/year), Jerusalem population in 2017 would be: 898 617*. source for above: http://population.city/israel/jerusalem/ The Palestinian Central Bureau of statistics claims there are 431,866 Palestinians in Jerusalem which means if we go by them there would be only 466,751 Jews in Jerusalem. If as Omni said 200,000 of those Jews lived in East Jerusalem it would mean 266,751 of Jews live in West Jerusalem. The Israeli Central Bureau of statistics had 400,501 Jews living in the West Bank as of 2016. source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/6-58-million-each-palestinians-claim-theyll-be-as-numerous-as-jews-in-historical-palestine-next-year/ source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_statistics_for_Israeli_settlements_in_the_West_Bank The bottom line is it is the Central Bureau of Statistics of Israel has the Palestinians in Jerusalem at about 334,000 not 431, 866. Studies by people doing water studies found all kinds of Palestinians not covered under any census. So to say there are 200,000 Jews in Jerusalem is shit. Its just a guess. The CIA uses it, hey even Jewish sites use it but anyone who knows anything about Jerusalem laughs at it. Bottom line there could be anywhere from 150-300,00 Jews in the East part and somewhere between 300-400 thousand Palestinians in the East part and the remainder anywhere from 400-500 thousand Jews in the West part. In the East part there are believed to be 9,000 of those 300-400 thousand Palestinians I mentioned who are Christian. Its guesses. What I can tell you is in East Jerusalem land can not be built on and remains vacant. Non Israelis on the East side have Jerusalem ID cards. They are not granted full citizenship in Israel even though it was annexed and that is a legal problem. They are in that sense second class citizens and that can not continue. However Israel does not WANT them to be Israeli and so anyone who understands this understands Israel long term does not want East Jerusalem other than access to Jewish holy sites and the security wall it put up so that once it leaves, terrorists won’t use East Jerusalem to attack West Jerusalem. About 59 to 64% of all of Jerusalem is Jewish and about 35% non Jewish. That’s the guesstimate. The fact is trotting out 200,00 Jews as Omni did is bullshit for the above reason and this next reason. People like Omni have no clue what a Palestinian or Jew is other than their instant expertise from quoting Al Jazeera and spewing sputum, The fact is the majority of Jews in East Jerusalem are called ultra-Orthodox Jews. They don’t recognize the state of Israel saying its an abomination because Israel should not have been created since it should only be created once the Messiah first comes back to earth. So they do not consider themselves Israeli. But hey when you are Omni a Jew is a Jew is a Jew. A map of the Jewish and Arab populations of East Jerusalem can be found at: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/map-of-jewish-and-arab-neighborhoods-in-east-jerusalem Next: “When the city (Jerusalem) was divided almost the entire populace of the western side was Jewish. With reunification, the non-Jews from eastern Jerusalem were added and reduced the proportion of Jews to three quarters. Since then, the non-Jewish population has grown at a faster pace than the Jewish population. Accordingly, at the beginning of 2015, Jews accounted for only 63% of the city’s population. Between 2008 and 2013, natural increase added 86,000 Jews to the city’s population. Yet, more than half of this growth was canceled out because of a negative balance of internal migration with other cities and towns across the country, as well as some emigration abroad. Overall, during these years, 39,000 inhabitants were added to the Jewish population of Jerusalem. The non-Jewish populace grew by 48,000 (mostly due to natural growth, but family reunification was also a factor). If current trends continue, the ratio of Jews and non-Jews will level off around mid-century, and thereafter Jews in Jerusalem will be the minority.” source for above: http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/The-demography-of-Jerusalem-513337 Next: “East Jerusalem residents make up 37% of the city’s population. According to the Central Bureau of Statistics, of the 815,300 residents in the city – 301,100 are Palestinian (37%). “ source for above: https://www.acri.org.il/en/2014/05/24/ej-numbers-14/

Its amazing you would try take a man on the street interview try use it to suggest its the opinion of all Israelis let alone ignore what most of the people interviewed actually said, then try slap it off as a "Bibi thing". That is lazy. Its the kind of lazy half assed crap I am always challenging you on.

No that aint gonna cut it. You posing as an expert about Jerusalem by quoting Al Jazeera shows how full of crap you are. In fact the 200,00 figure does not come from them. They simply repeat it, like below, "Should an independent Palestinian state ever be established on the West Bank, the 250,000-plus Jewish settlers scattered around it would have to be moved - as well as the more than 200,000 Israelis who now live in and around Arab east Jerusalem." (The Sunday Telegraph, Dec. 23, 2012) I will finish this next post.

Put the vasoline away Omni. You are caught red handed spewing bullshit. Provide your source for the 200,000 Jews in East Jerusalem that you determined are illegal. Quite the law, quote the law that says these Jews are "illegal"and provide the source its 200,000. I am calling you out as having no source and fabricating.

Not thatit matters because the anti Israel pissantes on this forum make things up as they go along but: East Jerusalem like West Jerusalem is Jerusalem. The East-West designation used by Omni is a modern definition,. In fact it was only during the 1948 Arab–Israeli War, when Jerusalem was contested between the Arab League of Nations and the Jews of Palestine who the Arab League of Nations unilaterally declared war on that when the Arab League armies gave up and retreated, Jordan then secretly negotiated a division of the city, with the eastern sector coming under Jordanian rule. This arrangement was then put in writing in what is called the March 1949, Rhodes Agreement. Exactly one week after that agreement which I can assure you Omni has no clue of, the then Prime Minister of Israel David Ben Gurion stated that it was the official Israeli position that Jewish Jerusalem was an inseparable part of the state of Israel. That was then confirmed in the Knesset in January 1950 and then the Jordanian Parliament in April 1950.[ Israel then captured East Jerusalem and the West Bank from Jordan in the 6 day war in June of 1967. In fact on June 27, 1967 Israel ANNEXED East Jerusalem but not the West Bank. East Jerusalem was never prior to Jordanian occupation part of any sovereign country and Jordan never annexed it or claimed it as part of Jordan. The UN feels Israel could not annex East Jordan. This was not based on international law, but a UN resolution, a motion expressing a political opinion by the majority of the UN's nations that Israel should not be in East Jerusalem. It was never based on any legal precedent because there is none. There is no international law that says a country can not annex land never owned by another nation. The PLO declared ALL of Jerusalem not just East Jerusalem as belong to it in 1988. This is the same Arafat who claimed Israel could not exist as a Jewish state and this is still the position of the PA today. They do not just claim all of Jerusalem as their capital but all pre 1967 Israel as part of its alleged kingdom of Palestine which is also said to include Jordan. The West of Jerusalem was always predominantly Jewish and the East predominantly Muslim (Arab) but there was never any line drawn. The borders of Israel that came about before 1967 were in fact de facto. They did not come about from formal recognition. The Arab League of Nations to this day does not acknowledge them. These pre 1967 lines were simply the lines where the Arab League armies ran away from and the Jews of Palestine stopped in 1949. They were never formally defined. Likewise that supposed East and West line that came about from 1949 to 1967 was simply a non legal informal treaty between Jordan and Israel. Jordan never agreed and still does not recognize Israel as a Jewish state let alone a state. This is why although it has a peace treaty with Israel it does not exchange an ambassador. It can not because it does not define Israel as a state. In fact when its King has visited he has never acknowledged Israel as a state he has done so with no such reference. In fact ibn November 1967, the UN Resolution 242 which called for Israel to withdraw "from territories occupied past the 1967 borders was to be done in exchange for peace treaties with the Arab League of Nations, Jordan, Egypt and Syria. Egypt took back Sinai in a peace treaty. Jordan did not want to take back the West Bank or East Jerusalem in a peace treaty because Arafat tried to kill King Hussein in the black sabbath uprising so he was expelled to Tunisia by Jordan and Jordan washed its hands of East Jerusalem andthe West Bank forcing Israel to remain to prevent the PLO and other terror cells from using it to launch continuing attacks on Israel. Nothing has changed since then. In fact in the original partition plan Israel agreed to in 1947 Jerusalem was supposed to to be an international city. The Arab League of Nations not Israel rejected this. Israel agreed to it, The Arab League rejected it. Yitzhak Rabin, Echud Barak and Olmert all offered East Jerusalem back to the PA in return for a peace treaty. Arafat declared to the world he would never accept a Jewish state under any circumstance and would never share Jerusalem with Jews. That position remains the position of Hamas and the PA. Once Arafat told the world the US and Israel should have known he bargained in bad faith and was simply stalling for time and would never recognize a Jewish state, Israel then decided there was no point talking about Jerusalem or the West Bank settlements as long as the PA and Hamas did not denounce terrorism an disarm and recognize the right of Israel to live as a Jewish state. This is exactly the position Britain took with the IRA but the IRA unlike Hamas and the PA did disarm, and renounced taking back Northern Ireland as preconditions to then engaging in peace talks. The PA and Hamas will not.

Oh do provide the source for that. Here's a hint you once again are full of shit.

First comparing me to Hamas is dishonest and loathsome. Your attempting to equate Zionists with Hamas is typical though and what is ironic is you do so in an effort to champion Hamas by trying to argue your terrorists are better. You are pathetic in that sense. The Zionist is no different than Hamas terrorism argument speaks for itself and where you are at on this thread. Next your posing as an expert on what the IDF did in Gaza and the war tactics Hamas engaged in by claiming you were in Afghanistan shows what a fool you are. Go on explain to Argus how the Taliban engage in the same tactics as Hamas which is of course false. Then explain your role in fighting the Taliban Mr. Counter Terrorist. What a joke. What a bloody joke.

You are asking me for proof that Hamas used hospitals, schools, mosques and peoples homes to launch their attacks? You are asking me for proof what Hamas did last war? You now Omni want to pretend you need proof? Just when you could not sink any lower with your crap. I repeat again, Hamas sets up rocket launchers--as well as supply dumps and command-and-control sites--in the midst of apartment buildings, mosques and schools. It was from these sites, its fighters launch dozens of rockets in salvos, targeting population centers with no discrimination at all. They fired when Israeli school children move from their homes, which have safe shelters, to their schools, which also have shelters. They did this deliberately to try and catch the kids in the open. They don't seek to minimize collateral damage - they sought to maximize it. Israel, on the other hand, fired at specific, intelligence-derived military targets. Since these targets were deliberately intermixed with the civilian population by Hamas, innocent Palestinians died but Israel tooksteps to minimize the collateral casualties. Before the Israelis struck at buildings, it would call on landline phones, as well as cell phones associated with the inhabitants of the building they'd shoot at. The cells additionally got text messages--telling them that in a few minutes the building would be targeted. It also dropped dud bombs, one containing no explosives, onto the roof of the structure giving an aimmediate 2 minute warning before the next bomb. No other modern military history has ever taken these measures to give the innocents as much chance to get out of the way. Now you want proof? You have the balls to be so dishonest you need to ask me for proof of what Hamas and the IDF did when its public knowledge not even Hamas disputes? Right Omni. We are done.

What a lazy and pathetic response. Now you trot out the tired canard that the amount of deaths by itself defines whether an act or actions are terrorist. You are intellectually lazy and dishonest. This is no football match with the higher score winning. The very level of deaths was caused by placing Palestinians in the line of fire and choosing to use their homes, hospitals, schools, as shields. You of course will ignore that because in your world, Hamas operates in a vacuum.

Go on genius. You want to pose as an anti terrorist security expert explain how to stop Hamas from firing at Israel when they fire from hospitals, schools, homes and use their citizens as shields. Explain. You are full of shit. You are just another lip service leftist who hasn't a clue what terrorism is and the reality of what it does to both Israelis and Palestinians. Gaza was not ever a village genius. Its a 25 square mile series of tightly congested 3 story buildings. There are also no villages on the West Bank. Make an effort before you pose as an expert on the geography and urban sites of Israel to find out. Hebron is not a village. Bethlehem is not a village. Gaza City is not a village. Would you go find out what a phacking village is. Next nothing Israel or Trump said, stated East Jerusalem could not also be the capital of a Palestinian state. Nothing. You have zero words. You ASSUME. The fact is you haven't a clue what is going on in Jerusalem. If you did you would know that three different Israeli Prime Ministers, Rabin, Barak, Olmert all offered to share Jerusalem and all three were told by Arafat he would never accept one inch of Jewish statehood let alone recognize Jersalem or any part of that city as part of it. That you don't mention. You don't mention Abbas and Hamas have openly stated the only state they will recognize in Israel is a majority Muslim state. Who you? You? Right.

You are now a liar. You now try to recast and rewrite the attack by Hamas as a bunch of rockets which fell into the desert. It is like all the other shit on this thread a classic example of how people like you will use the thread to engage in your own agendas of hate against Israel. First I am going to start with israelis killed from 2001 to 2014: Date of attack Location Weapon Name Age 2004.06.28 Sderot Qassam Mordechai Yosephov 49 Afik Ohion Zehavi 4 2004.09.29 Sderot Qassam Yuval Abebeh 4 Dorit (Masarat) Benisian 2 2005.01.15 Sderot Qassam Ayala-Haya Abukasis 17 2005.07.15 Moshav Nativ Ha‘asara Qassam Dana Gelkowitz 22 2006.11.15 Sderot Qassam Faina Slutzker 57 2006.11.21 Sderot Qassam Yaakov Yaakobov 43 2007.05.21 Sderot Qassam Shirel Friedman 32 2007.05.27 Sderot Qassam Oshri Oz 36 2008.02.27 Sderot Qassam Roni Yihye 47 2008.05.09 Kibbutz Kfar Aza mortar Jimmy Kedoshim 48 2008.05.12 Moshav Yesha Qassam Shuli Katz 70 2008.06.05 Kibbutz Nir-Oz mortar Amnon Rosenberg 51 2008.12.27 Netivot Qassam Beber Vaknin 58 2008.12.29 IDF base near Nahal Oz mortar Lutfi Nasraladin*† 38 2008.12.29 Ashdod Grad Irit Sheetrit 39 2008.12.29 Ashkelon Grad Hani al Mahdi* 27 2010.03.18 Moshav Nativ Ha‘asara Qassam Manee Singueanphon* 30 2011.08.20 Be’er sheva Grad Yossi Shushan 38 2011.10.29 Ashkelon Grad Moshe Ami 56 2012.11.15 Kiryat Malachi Grad Yitzchak Amsalem 24 Mira Sharf 25 Aharon Smadja 49 2012.11.20 Eshkol Regional Council mortar Eliyan Salem el-Nabari*† 33 2012.11.20 Eshkol Regional Council mortar Yosef Nachman Partok† 18 2012.11.21 Eshkol Regional Council mortar? Boris Yarmolnik† 28 2014.07.15 Erez Crossing mortar Dror Khenin† 37 2014.07.19 village near Dimona rocket Ouda Lafi al-Waj* 32 2014.07.23 Ashkelon Coast RC mortar Narakorn Kittiyangkul* 36 2014.07.27? Sdot Negev RC mortar Barak Refael Degorker† 27 2014.07.28 Eshkol RC mortar Eliav Kahlon† 22 Meidan Maymon Biton† 20 Niran Cohen† 20 Adi Briga† 23 2014.07.31 Eshkol RC mortar Daniel Marsh† 22 Omri Tai† 22 Shai Kushner† 20 Noam Rosenthal† 20 Liran Adir† 31 2014.08.22 Sha‘ar HaNegev RC mortar Daniel Tregerman 4 2014.08.22 Gan Yavne Grad Netanel Maman† 22 2014.08.26 Kibbutz Nirim mortar Ze’evik Etzion 55 Shahar Melamed 43 Next I am going to say 1 as too many. 1. What you fail to mention is: 1. that when rockets come into Israel there is no way of knowing where they will land so the entire country has to take shelter and no they didn't all land in the desert where no one lived 2. the children and citizens who died in Gaza died because Hamas deliberately placed them in the line of fire-they used their schools, mosques, hospitals, homes as attack sites to shoot missiles at Israel 3. in your world because Hamas uses its people like shields Israel should do nothing and just get fired at and have its citizens die. Your bull shit, your attempt to suggest the IDF deliberately killed Palestinians no different then how Fatah and Hamas et al deliberately use their own people as shields and attack Israeli citizens makes you a Hamas and terrorist apologist. Been done on this forum many a time. Now you are out of the closest though and are not hiding your Liberal Trudeau agenda its interesting. Now people can see why you are such a "friend" of the "victim" Omar Kadr. You see the smeers Omni they go both ways. You want to smeer all Israelis as terrorists for defending themselves through their armed forces against Hamas et al, I call you a terrorist apologist. Your equating the IDF to Hamas speaks loudly for itself. Let you hear this loud and clear. IDF died protecting Palestinians caught as shields no Hamas ever died protecting Palestinians they use them to die as propaganda tools. You'd know that if you had lived there and instead of Ghost claiming to be an expert using selective man on the street interviews you and he and the whole lot of you piss on Israel pro terrorists went there and saw what Hamas does to its people not just Israelis. You haven't a clue what warfare is let alone terrorism being engaged street to street in GAZA, NOT A CLUE. You in fact have no idea how many Palestinians avoided death precisely because the IDF engaged as best it could in precautionary measures when it retaliated. Not a clue. But I would not expect you to even attempt to feign neutrality at this conflict. Your agenda is to promote Hamas sputum. What the phack do you think Hamas was doing in Gaza Omni during the last war> https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/05/gaza-palestinians-tortured-summarily-killed-by-hamas-forces-during-2014-conflict/ You want the names of Israelis killed by terrorists in this on-going war who you? http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/comprehensive-listing-of-terrorism-victims-in-israel As long as terrorism continues Israel's defence forces have a moral obligation to protect their citizens no different then Canada does its citizens. You have a problem with that? Go on explain it. Explain why a nation should do sweet phack all as its people are targeted by terrorists for death. Explain it. Finish your smeer. Explain how self defence against terrorism is terrorism. Explain why Jews should just shut the phack up and die and not fight back. Finish it.

The fact your father was a Jew does not give you magic immunity. The content and context of your words is what determines if they incite hatred against all Jews or all Israelis or stereotypes either or both negatively. The fact you said the above shows how you hide behind your so called claim to Jewishness to try deny what you said or grant you magic immunity. It shows how dishonourable you are in my opinion trying to pull the Jew card to protect yourself. Some of the worst anti semites are Jews. You sure as hell are no Jew. You made it clear in the above sentence. The fact your father is dead or was a Jew means what? I do note you did not say you were a Jew. I heard it loudly. Phew. Heaven forbid you carried on his ethnicity. By the way we Jews don't refer to ourself as a Jew or Jews, we say Jewish. Maybe instead of distancing yourself from your JEW self you might find out why we don't use the word Jew but use the word Jewish or Hebrew.

Let me know when you show the interviews with "some" Muslims and "some" Palestinians saying Jews can not marry Muslims, etc. You really think selecting out one man of the street interview can be used as you do to smeer all Israelis and Jews of having the same opinions? You also seem to have forgotten the other things said conveniently. This propaganda technique of selectively removing one person's opinion out to advance your agenda and ignore all the rest of the people in this film let alone Israel is pathetic. Trying to smeer all Jews on top of it means what? You think we all have one opinion? What a pathetic attempt at a smeer. If I present now a film on extremist Palestinians calling to kill Jews and then say all Palestinians are terrorists you'd be the first to call it Islamophobia. So what do you call what you engage in hmmmm? What word would you like to use to describe stereotyping all Jews and Israelis. Do you think putting the word "some" in front of your stereotyping sanitized the intent of your exercise?