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Oh look all of a sudden who wants the thread to be on topic. Pathetic. The ole Kactus to Marcus to Eye hand off. Just like watching the Super Bowl except we have no half backs, just half asses.

The above shows how Marcus is completely dettached from reality to the point he spews absolute dribble. Why would he try to pretend there were no regimes in Egypt, Syria, Iraq for example, that have had power and supported Hitler? Why would he pretend that "Arabs" have not been ruthless to their own people in their nations. What type of individual would come on this forum and pretend Arab regimes have not been self ruled and have engaged in ruthless behaviour against their own citizens? What the phack does he think has transpired in Sudan, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq? What a pathetic attempt to lie and distort history. Who was Muhammed Ghaddafi, Gamel Adnel Nasser, Saadam Hussein? What dimension does Marcus come from? Who Marcus know anything about the civil wars in Lebanon, or the genocide of Yazidi or Kurds? Who Marcus? Oh hell Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, they don't exist and their human rights abuses-poof begone.

The above comment evidences precisely why Marcus has zero credibility and spews pathetic Palestinian Authority scripts. This excerpt summarizes the above script: source: http://jcpa.org/article/palestinians-arabs-and-the-holocaust/ "One of the major Palestinian Arab arguments regarding the establishment of the state of Israel is that the West facilitated its founding out of guilt over the Holocaust. Palestinians insist that the Holocaust is a purely Western and Christian crime that has nothing to do with them or other Arabs.1 For example, Palestinian activist Omar Barghouti writes as follows: …Palestinians—and Arabs more generally—bear no responsibility whatsoever for the Holocaust, a European genocide committed against mostly European Jews, Roma, and Slavs, among others. It is therefore not incumbent upon Palestinians to pay in our lives, lands, and livelihoods the price for relieving Europe’s conscience of its collective guilt over the Holocaust.2 Jibril Rajoub, a member of the Fatah Central Committee and former Palestinian Authority security chief, asserted on July 24, 2014 that “it was the Nazis, not us, who did the Holocaust to them… We are paying the price for Europe’s crimes against them in the previous century.”3 Likewise, PLO official Husam Zomlot recently stated that “the Nazis were responsible for it [the Holocaust]. The Palestinians had nothing to do with it. The Israelis were responsible for the Nakba.”4 This argument is part of the overall Palestinian narrative which maintains that Palestinians are the innocent victims of an injustice inflicted by others, especially Westerners and Zionists. According to Barghouti, “the conflict is a colonial conflict…based on ethnic cleansing, racism, settler colonialism, and apartheid,”5 and the state of Israel “was created through…[a] well-planned campaign of ethnic cleansing.”6 Thus, the nakba—the tragedy of the Palestinian refugees who were displaced by the war of 1948—is entirely the fault of the Zionists and their Western supporters, not of the Palestinians themselves. According to this narrative, in 1948, the Zionists were waging a war of preplanned ethnic cleansing, not a war of self-defense against Palestinian aggressors with genocidal intentions and a history of Nazi collaboration. Therefore, any accusation of genocide and genocidal hatred should be directed only at Westerners and Zionists, not at Palestinians or Arabs. However, the claim that Palestinians and Arabs had nothing to do with the Holocaust is false. In fact, Arab and Palestinian leaders played a significant role in aiding and abetting the Nazi plan to exterminate the Jews in Europe and they hoped to implement the genocide in the Middle East." Here let Marcus hide from me and the following: http://www.projetaladin.org/holocaust/en/muslims-and-jews/the-holocaust-and-muslims.html http://missingpeace.eu/en/2014/01/arab-role-in-the-holocaust-exposed/ I am again calling out Marcus for holocaust denial and trying to re-write to justify his own bigotry against Jews for creating a nation. It is a fact the leader of the Muslims in pre-Israel Palestine, the Grand Mufti Mohammad Amin Al-Husayni, was closely allied with, and actively assisted the Nazis throughout the Second World War. In fact he pressured and was instrumental in getting Adolph Eichman to use cynide to kill Jews and not use bullets so more could he killed faster. In fact Al-Husayni met with Hitler several times, and lived in a confiscated Jewish home throughout WW2 in Berlin He was given a personal tour of the Auschwitz death camp by Heinrich Himmler, where he reportedly “ lectured the guards for not killing Jews fast enough. Al-Husayni has been proven by German documents to have recruited Muslims for the German SS, amounting to hundreds of thousands and he planned and carried out a chemical attack on Jews in Tel Aviv. Yasser Arafat, his protigee and successor served as one of his troops in 1948. The othe r PA genius Mr. Abbas wrote his Ph.d thesis in Moscow denying the holocaust occurred. The support of Hitler in the Arab world of the ME pre, during and post WW2 is fact. Syria, Egypt, Iraq created regimes modelled on Nazi Germany. Hitler mustaches flourished in the ME on most men as a sign of support for Hitler. To this day Fatah, Hamas, Hezbollah, use the Nazi salute and goose step. Hitler's Mein Kampf and the antisemitic forgery The Protocols of the Elders of Zion have always beemn bestsellers in several Muslim countries. For Marcus to pretend this was only a European phenomena is a crock of shit. That's why he hides from me. He has no idea how to respond when he's exposed but exposed he will be and its why Porch calls him a denier of history. “Kill the Jews wherever you find them, this is pleasing to Allah.” - Mohammad Amin Al-Husayni, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, 1943 http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Exposing-the-myth-of-the-Arab-bystander-to-the-Holocaust-339430

No but he will piss on the holocaust and its survivors and try change the thread to do that. Lol. The funny thing is not one of these giggle boyz on the thread pissing on the US or Israel knows what Tim Horton's is. Trust me on that. Their knowledge of Canadian history is like their knowledge of Jewish or Christian history, non existent. But hey ask them about the Koran. They think they got it down pat. You know the parts that say INFIDEL. The problem is they don't read its other parts or realize the Koran is not in chronological order and their beloved prophet rejected many of the hateful precepts they cling to in his name. Pathetic.

You are a joke. When you are confronted and revealed as making false statements you turn yourself into a victim. You come on this board and giggle away with Kactus and Marcus at the anti semitic attacks on Jews on this thread posed as a discussion on Jerusalem and you snort please no non answers? Lol.

Right on cue. Let's turn this thread into an opportunity to ridicule the holocaust and holocaust survivors. But hey Marcus is a victim. He's going to write in wheeping like Ghost he should not be called an anti semite. A classic example of an anti semitism. The above has nothing at all to do with the thread and everything to do with ridiculing holocaust survivors and not just Jewish ones, but Romas, 7th day Adventists, Jehova's witnesses, gays, righteous Christians, socialists, communists, humanitarians, etc., killed in the holocaust for simply being a Jew or Roma or Gay or for daring to stand up to their religious beliefs as a Christian or their moral political beliefs. Attaboy Marcus, cheer on a holocaust denier and piss on holocaust survivors, that shows your credibility and sadly once again proves this is not a thread and has never been a thread about the supposed topic that the title introduces-its about ridiculing the history of Jews and others. This is why I consider Marcus beneath contempt and why he won't respond to me and has me on ignore. People who ridicule holocaust survivors run from people that can and do defend them. People like Marcus pick their battles and don't go up against people who can and will defend themselves. That is precisely the mentality and motus operandi of a terrorist.

Yes some people still put their hands on someone's shoulder or hug them and it will have to stop unless you are Justin and Omni meeting for a photo oprtunity. Then they and Seamus and Bill can patt each other on their bums and call it football.

You came on this board and deliberately equated the mutilation of a woman's vagina with the removal of foreskin and people saw your words and what you tried to do. That is why I told you to cut your dick off. You clearly had a misunderstanding as to what mutilating a vagina is, and I was trying to help you give you special remedial suggestions to help with your learning and comprehension difficulties. I find people like you who find basic concepts hard to understand sometimes helped with visual illustrations. Now as for your continuing difficulties, let's start with your ridiculous definition of Israel proper you refer to as "internationally recognized borders". The Arab League does not and has never recognized the "internationally recognized borders of Israel". Neither does Hamas, Hezbollah, the PA, Iran and the hundreds of Muslim terror cells of the Middle East. So referring to a concept the Arab world has rejected as being internationally recognized is laughable. Next what the phack is an internationally recognized border in the ME? YOf course not. Not a clue. Even if the UN said, the 1967 demarcation line prior to the 1967 war was the borders of Israel, it doesn't mean they are internationally recognized if every phacking country in the ME does not recognize them. Next please provide me the legal wording that defines Israel's borders. It doesn't exist because it never existed. A sovereign state's borders come about by: 1-mutual recognition through treaties that are voluntarily followed by the signors of the treaty; 2-uncontested and uninterupted use and occupation. The actual concept you think you refer to was called the 1949 Armistice Agreements. That series of armistice agreements never defined Israel's borders. All they did was show where the Arab armies ran away from when they gave up in 1949 of driving Jews in Palestine into the sea. ONLY Israel's borders with Egypt and Jordan have been formally recognized and confirmed as part of the peace treaties with those countries-no other borders. Sopretending there are internationally recognized borders when the Arab League of nations the most significant portion of that international recognition will not recognize Israel is bullshit. There is NO international recognition as long as the Arab League does not recognize Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state. The issue isn't where its borders should be-it never has been with the Arab League of Hamas, Hezbollah, the PA-it's whether a Jewish state with ANY borders should exist. Israel proper my ass. Yes lets' deny history and pretend. Let's pretend that between 1949 and 1967 Jordan did not illegally seize the East of Jerusalem and enable the massacre of Jews, the destruction of Jewish synagogues, and the desecration of Jewish sites. Let's conveniently forget how Jordan soldiers would defecate and urinate in front of Jews on Jewish sacred sites and chip off sacred Jewish sites and sell them to tourists. Let's pretend the East of Jerusalem was not used as a launch post by the PLO to go into what Ghost calls "Israel Proper" over and over again killing Jews precisely because in the real world it never recognized any Jewish borders. Israel proper my ass. The PA's constitution and the Hamas constitution call for a holy Muslim war to rid the entire planet of Jews by starting with Israel.

They invent it on the go precisely because as I argue they have as much contempt for Muslim history as they do Jewish history. This is about exploiting both histories for their own agendas. These leftist phacktards would not know the difference between a Christian, Jew, Muslim,. Bahaii, Druze, Berber, Kurd, Assyrian, Coptic, Yazidi, Alawite, Sunni, Shiite, Zoroastrean, Beduin and don't care to. Let's make it clear. All of us descendants of the Middle East are a pretense so that the Omnis and Ghosts of the world can presume to dictate to us our fates and talk down to all of us as savages who need their approval. His eminence Omni or his eminence Ghost say thumbs up to one feuding Gladiator over the other? I think not. Last time someone tried that with me, I took the other Gladiator with me and went over and chopped the presumptuous twits thumb off and made him eat it. Ghost gets nervous when I discuss chopping things off during this discussion so I will stop. He feels victimized for being challenged holding his thumb up. To my Christian friends on this board and they know who I am, I understand they used Lions with you. No problem. I see you learned that those Lions were not Lions of Judah and understand exactly where they come from. You call it Satan, I call it the evil within all humans that we either learn to balance or be defeated by. Either way the battle is already here and we have to find a way and we have the message how. Its just putting it into practice. You Christians call it the Gospel, we Jews call it Tikam Olem, and its referred to in many other philosophies and religions. I believe we will find that balance, that solution, but its a war that may not be supposed to end and be infinite not just this lifetime and that's not something that scares me. I don't need to be loved in any lifetime. I just need to make it clear I won't be tread on. Its why I like the USMC flag. Its a great flag and motto.

He will not. He will never concede in his lifetime that he is a bigot. You think he would question a Muslim about Mecca, or a Catholic about the Vatican City? Lol. Outsiders like Omni have zero understanding of Jerusalem, the conflicting land titles. They live on the You Tube and pass that off as reality. I do not think any Jew EVER AGAIN should feel we have to explain to the Omnis of the world where we HAVE ALWAYS LIVED, where came from and where we returned to. We have no obligation particularly when they make it clear they will not respect or acknowledge our history. I mean you even have one of them trying to suggest the questioning of the capital of Jerusalem is not about Jews only Israelis. How much moronic does it get Doggy? Make no mistake-this is about telling Jews their place and it aint on this planet let alone Jerusalem. You know damn well what the Charters of Hamas, Hezbollah and the Pa say. This is and has always been a war to rid not just the ME of Jews but the planet. That said because I do not give a flying phack about the Omnis and Kactuses and Hudson Jones of the world who couch their names and agendas-I do care about Palestinians in Jerusalem and on the West Bank precisely because I lived in Israel and precisely because I am a Zionist. Our ideology says and always has said, we honour all indigenous peoples of the Middle East along with us. It makes it imperative our state can not be truly completed until we find a permanent solution so we can live peacefully side by side non Jews even if many Muslims despise and hate us and/or believe we are inferior to them and have no right to own land or have a state because in the Koran and Sharia law we are defined as infidel, khafir, less imperfect beings without the same rights. We have to find a way to get to Muslims and convince them to abandon negative beliefs about Jews and non Muslims just as we Zionists have to do with extremist Jews with non Hews. Extremist, fundamentalist religious beliefs fuel this conflict and the Omnis of the world-these posers of leftist sanctimony turn this into a WWE wrestling match between Abdullah the Butcher and Goldberg. They create stereotypes, pathetic ones and exploit us and play us off one another like cocks in a ring. I am not Ghost's cock. Believe me. I have already told him what I think he should do with that concept. I edited this while you responded.

Actually it has not. These are 10 year old allegations. There has never been any light brought on who the accusers are and why it took so long and how the Tory's, NDP and Liberals never knew about something that old. You mix up the facts and issues of this specific case with sex allegations in general. Having investigated and dealt with sex crimes for years I can tell you there is no uniform explanation or pattern for the time lines of when such things are reported. There is no evidence to prove or establish most victims wait years to talk. That is just not true. Each case is different. Some they talk immediately others they do not. Any generalizations as to time patterns and saying people in authority cause victims to be frightened and quiet could be true but it does not explain the actual timing of when such victims decide if they do to talk. In fact some bodies of evidence indicate the longer someone takes time to talk the less reliable and full of false memories their testimony becomes. Its a complicated issue but there is no trendy leftist stereotype that all sex victims sit on their trauma. Each case has its own distinct parameters of actions that then may have led to crime or injury or both. I do agree with you that the delay in timing does not necessarily make it less valid I am just saying it doesn't automatically make it valid either. I also agree Horvath could slip up the middle. If the electors think they have two suspect parties they may elect her based on her personal appearance of honesty.

Absolutely. Even if he did what he did the method it was done in is very disturbing. I think the timing shows a set up, and a strategic well planned move to take him out barely hours after Wynne's lackie was convicted. So its either a Liberal leak or a PC back stab with Liberal blessings. The fact that no one ran with this story but CTV smells. The fact that Broewn's entire network resigned within minutes smells. The fact Brown let himself appear in front of cameras with no script smells like a classic career take down. There have been far more serious scandals than Brown's including Wynne's. Please don't tell me what Brown did was different in moral failure if he did it then what Wynne and her party are responsible for. I smell set up.

What you smell of course is a political back stab. My bet is its a PC insider not the Liberals. But hey I do not really know but it smells precisely because of what you say.

Hang on. He was not the strongest candidate he was in fact a compromise candidate. Secondly it may be having a new leader come in gets the PC's elected now not the opposite. Will Kathleen Wynne be given a different standard of treatment by the public? You might be right the public is awful stupid but a good Tory leader could clearly dettach the PC's from Pat Brown's transgressions far better than Kathleen Wynne can from the Liberals filthy dealings and cover-ups. Some in the PC party is asleep at the wheel. This kind of crap should have been vetted long before he ran for the leadership. The rumousr of Pat Brown being a pervert were not new. They were known to the press for many years so the question is, why did they only get released now? Look at the timing. It was done in direct response to detract from the criminal conviction of a Liberal hack who erased info that would have made the Liberals look bad and the person in charge of the election -Kathleen Wynne. Amazing turn around in less than 48 hours from that Liberal hack's conviction. Coincidence? I think not. Now whether the Liberals led the story or someone in the PC's did it, back stabbing Pat Brown is not known but I suspect it was someone in the PC's explaining the immediate dumping of him. However whoever in the PC's is trying to replace him might get exposed and caught. The timing is blatant and clumsy. The Tories have to choose a leader asap and focus back to the Liberal failures and say the personal failures of Brown have nothing to do with the policies of the PC Party, but on the other hand the failures of Kathleen Wynne directly deal with how she runs the party. In fact the PC's could say look when our leader did wrong out he went-the Liberal leader does wrong- she refuses to take responsibility. In fact it could come back to haunt the Liberals in giving the PC's a higher moral ground. To exploit the PC higher moral ground the Tory's need to appoint a dynamic person asap. t Other than maybe Vic Fedeli they are a party of very bland speakers. I think someone in the Tory party knifed Brown in the back. Why? He had months if not years to have headed off this scandal. He could have if it was a Liberal and not Tory leak to the press, gotten ahead of it and pulled a David Letterman, stated he acted stupid when he was young and regrets what he did but the personal attacks at this time were a Liberal smear to dertact from their own behaviour. He could have pulled that position and said they were trying to make it about him and he would step aside for that reason. Interestingly he did not. He appeared at a press conference in a state of panic with no support at all which was career suicide. Politicians have handled scandals of sex far worse than this one. The immediate abandonment of him that quickly within minutes of the announcement was orchestrated not spontaneous. People do not resign that quickly en masse without first planning for it.

Yes this coming from someone who has no phacking idea what the definition of Israel proper is. What is it? What is Israel proper? You ask a question about something you have no idea about. Finish it. Its not a very difficult answer. Explain what an Israel proper is.

Yes because you are the one who tried to equate the circumcision of a women with that of a man. Or have you forgotten that? This playing the victim with me over being ridiculed for your hateful and bigoted passive aggressive comments about women. Jews, whatever-is fun. Continue. Hey now imagine that as well kactus and omni think its funny you equate the mutilation of a woman's vagina with cutting of a foreskin. Hee tee. Tee hee. Get a room the three of you.

Not on this thread. In omitting it you show your point was idiotic. The fact that the US supports countries in the ME does not make it or those countries necessarily evil. The attempt by you is to trot out the usual leftist crap where you stereotype the US and Israel in one evil category. Its tiresome, its lame, its unoriginal. Bad Yankee/ Bad Zionist. Bad bad bad. Get back to me twisting your colon over Hezbollah, Hamas, the PA, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Russia, China. whatever.

He's already from the sounds of it done that out of spite like you.

You seem to have a selective memory of US support for Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, even Iran. Your selective take on who the US supports and not who the Soviets, Chinese, or anyone else supports speaks loudly. So does your trying to pretend the US only supports Israel in the ME.

What the phack is Israel proper? This question coming from someone who has already made clear he tells Jews were they can live on this planet...right. Israel proper. Now his personal opinions of where Jews should live is "proper" let alone "Israel proper".

No Jews. Who the phack do you think Israelis are who you and Ghost are telling not to live in Jerusalem, Episcopalians? Someone get him a glass of water. He's choking.

I think you are a pathetic bigot who thinks he can engage in ignorant bigoted slurs as long as its against someone you deem unworthy of your progressive values. I think you are a presumptious arrogant blow hard for coming on this forum and presuming to pose as an expert on Canadian history as if that justifies smeering anyone for challenging Canada's record on its indigenous people. I think you speak for you and a handful of bigots presuming your bigotry is special and a gift from God. Got news for you-your shit stinks.

You engaged in an anti American bigoted slur and you now try justify it with the above? Who the phack do you think you are smeering all Americans or any American? Who the phack do you think you are getting off insulting anyone for questioning Canada's treatment of indigenous people? Go on and finish it you bigot. Explain why anyone, Canadian, American, British, whatever can not engage in critical analysis of how Canada has treated its indigenous people? Go o on finish it you bigot. Where do you get off holding your nose in the air assuming the Canadian government can not be criticized because its being done by a Yank. He has as much a right to criticize our history as we do his and the more you respond the more you manifest just how bigoted and presumptious an elitist CBC prick you are being.

I did not miss the point. Your trying to partronize me and excuse your ignorance and bigotry by acting as if what you said is justified proves your ignorance. His nationality is not germaine to his opinion but you think it is. You are a classic and blatant bigot with the presumptious leftist horseshit stereotype of the bad American. Take ownership of it. Yah I know you and Justin are such superiors on this planet. Got news for you-the fact I am Canadian and you are does not absolve you or anyone Canadian or not making generalizations about any nationality in a negative sense. You are the very think you think you curl your nose at, intolerant, bigoted.

He runs from facts that do not suit him. He has no clue about the history of Jerusalem. His agenda is simply to come on this forum and try tell Jews our place. He has not a clue about Israel, Jewish history, Jerusalem. He's another pretentious gentile with an unresolved superiority complex and need to put Jews in their place. Where he got this idea he is a British officer putting swarthy Jews in their place in Palestine is anyone's guess. Maybe he sits at home with a pith helmet, a monocle in one eye, drinking warm gin and waxing his mustache-maybe that is his fantasy who knows. Maybe he tried to sell paintings to Jews and they wouldn't buy them. Maybe that explains it.