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To answer Wes. If the President dies in office the Vice President takes over and if the Vice President were not available to take over it would then be the Speaker of the House according to the Presidential Succession Act. However the 25th amendment makes no mention of who HAS to then become Vice President which means the next Vice President could be anyone the President wants. Two times the Vice President was replaced in recent times . When Spiro Agnew was asked to leave due to corruption, Nixon appointed the House Republican Leader, Gerald Ford. When Ford then became President if you guys remember, he appointed Nelson Rockefeller the retired Governor of New York state. So now consider this is if you are a conspiracy nut. Ford and Rockefeller are accused of being in on and covering up the JFK assassination and being members of the secret society that meets at the Bhomenian Grove and engages in Luciferian practices. Then again so was Reagan, both Bushes and Clinton and Nixon and supposedly Bush. In fact the only President not linked to the going ons at the Luciferian retreats at the Bohemian Lodge so far is James Earl Carter Jr., a peanut farmer and Nuclear Engineer from Georgia who none the less in addition to all other Presidents to date, was and remains a Mason. Next, if Michelle Obama ran as VP yes she could then become unelected President if Joe Biden died and could pick anyone. The law does not prohibit her then from appointing Barak Hussein Obama from becoming Vice President but the Constitution prohibits him from becoming President but does it? The Constitution prohibits Barak Hussein Obama from running again for the Presidency its not crystal clear on whether he could get back in via the Vice Presidency seat. There you go get all paranoid about that! Now may I remind you I said Michelle Obama would show up again before this is over. I see some of you are drinking my koolaid. Now wait, before you say the wife of a former President running for office is crazy have a laugh. Well ask Mrs. Bill Clinton and Mrs. George Wallace. Hey now where do you guys come up with such imaginations. Now me I have an excuse, I am a nut case. Crazy. Insane. Certifiable fig newton.

Yah its nice when we have someone who does not hide his nationality.

Is that before or after you are banned? Careful what you wish for.

He is a Draco. I know many personally, Celine, Harry and Meaghan, Nancy Pelosi, Kim Kardashian, Phil, Liz, Chuck and Willy Windsor, Sophie Trudeau, you, and of course, Brad Pitt. DUH.

Me no kapiche that last comment.

PC and Argus, sounds like you use the term Republican to assume a lot of people share the exact same ideas. That is no different than smearing all Democrats the same way. The name of a political party and party politics may label people for the sake of controlling debate and voting results but the fact is no one even knows what either party stands for. Like Liberal or Conservative they are just names to indicate the patronage network you want to join.

Your last question is murky. Are you saying we should not question government because we are already captive? I regards to the hacking questions, I defer to hackers. They can hack anything anywhere.

No far from it. He came from a movement of Christians trying to promote what they saw as a political application of the gospel of Jesus. It was also based on the perspective of farmers who needed to help each other get their grain to markets. The classical example of populists in Canada were Marcel Duplessis, WAC Benett, Joey Smallwood. They used elaborate networks of patronage to keep them in power. Other than them if you mean pure ideology, maybe Louis Riel, Rene Levesque but their populism was limited. It's not how we work in Canada. Canadian politicians with big egos like Lougheed in Alberta, Mulroney, Pierre Trudeau had their share of haters. There was a brief period of Trudeaumania which was populist but it faded.

Yah totally with you on the above.

Its opium. He is solving a murder case.

I agree with you. That proves it you are insane. Spanky's point was true too. Depends on how use the word. I do get that but he may as well be called an Albertan PC as well. I think what he really is..like many Canadians not from Quebec or Ontario is someone tired of what they perceive as a bias in their favour by the federal government. Whether that is true or not I leave to others. He does not like people who see only one side of an arguement. He came from a world of journalism and critical editorialist that plays devil's advocate to any popular belief not properly balanced in presentation. I think he hates everyone equally if you give him proper time to clarify.

Start with this..there is no such thing as a secure firewall. Then move to this second concept, there is no such thing as power that remains uncorrupted but there is always power that claims to be well intended. Try work with those two. Kids taught me the first. Travelling in and living in conflict zones and listening to war vets and survivors taught me the second...certainly to never take freedom for granted.

It's hard for many of us to believe there was no plan B...so hard we think that is not possible.. fueling the idea it's a set up of some kind using the virus as a tool in some kind of market change brought on by a crisis from Chinese state controlled monopoly and private monopolies at war. Then again it could be both an economic war and the virus coincidentally. Will we ever know? All I can tell you TSS is your Lap lander's knew there was a problem without the need of the media telling them. Depends I guess on what you are trained to see.

Your lead ins- ka poof.

If your lead ins are coincidental and you debate distinctively from Tdot I will debate you. I apologize as well. Forums make us mean in tone. I am a blunt bastard. You have nothing to apologize for. I do not like trolling. I also challenged your words in one post but with respect. I have often got caught up in the tragedy of the virus...I do welcome your concern..I only mean we have to control our sorrow if we are too help and work together not in a cold war. You tell me to phack off any time. It's your right. My opinions are only that. Everyone has something to say about Trump. That is no big deal. It's the constant trolling about the US coming election I think we are all fed up with on this forum. This virus needs us all to focus on a vaccine. They are trying.

Lol. Hey I note while we have been reading anti US stuff on this and many threads on the board often using the virus as the pretext, the South Chinese seas have seen an unprecedented build up of navies including Britain, Australia, Vietnam, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Russia. Putin has his Russian mob drilling oil for the Vietnamese and the Chinese are livid over that harassing the Russians because China wants all that oil and refuses to recognize Vietnamese sovereignty. It's very interesting. I can not help but wonder Liberty, who gets hurt in the on going trade war worse, the Russia China Iran axis or the North America Europe Japan South Korea alliance and whether the virus is coincidental with it. The timing 9f the trade war and virus was awful coincidental. Lol. I love anti US trolls pushing the virus. I was reading a great one today that says Trump is a spy for China and Jared Kushner was a transgendered Russian woman to man spy running the US and there is no virus it's a hoax. It also said William Shiff is actually Andy Kaufman. I love bots and trolls. Why they hate the US so much is beyond me. I mean at least if you feel that way give up the Big Macs, coke and rap music. Anyways the anti US crap...I love it. It repeats itself. I have fun. I love commies. They love me. Bottom line, ths US is working with the British and Israelis on a vaccine. They will with the cooperation of many scientists get a vaccine or treatment. The sad thing is, China could have asked for help but chose instead to tell the world to phack off and closed itself down from help. The WHO let us all down playing to their government and forsaking their citizens.

I have no problems. You seem to. I do challenge the content and timing of specific posts. You seem to have a problem with that. If your point was to say Tdot is not a problem or Godzilla is not a problem good for you. You choose to restate what I am challenging which is the contents of their words with suggesting they are a problem just like you claimed I said you were a problem because I challenge the content and timing of your words and the lead in to Tdot. We done? You have any other questions because I am discussing the contents of words stated on this thread..if you want to defend Tdot's words on this forum be my guest...just try do more than gigglat him.. please.express to me something of substance to debate...thank you.

I respect anyone's right to debate. I also gave a right to point out repeat lead ins to tdot comments that are clearly trolling the board. I personally do not think the lead ins at all times are genuine. Call me a cynic. This thread is about the virus not the US's upcoming election action, not Trump, not Bush Chaney's right to debate this issue when people turn it into an excuse to engage in pissinv on the US. That is only my opinion. Pacifica please feel free to continue. My opinion wins are only that. I do not believe pissing on the US raising fears, is the way to get to the issues such as how do we balance I individual and colle active rights when tracking the virus...whether government or private initiatives can be trusted...whether a vaccine or app will be used to track us for the wrong reasons....

No anger. Who is stopping you? Who? You wanna play lead in for Tdot trolling..its your perfect right..go ahead...interesting but you had zero qualms personally attacking Bush Chaney. This isn't personal at all. It is about me challenging the words you place on the forum in this thread and for me as well, the timing of them. Go on feel free. Your attempt to say I am angry..or shut you up is not the case..in fact ..by saying that you try make it personal not me. You try shut me down with the victim shtick. I simply challenge the contents of your words and their lead in to Tdot comments which presents a repeat pattern on this board. That's the thing with a discussion board..it allows debate..seems to me you are trying to suggest if I challenge your words it's a personal attack against you..no..I do not care who you are..its your words I am challenging..particularly those that lead in to Tdot comments. Toodles.

Hee hee nice spin?...you done with the tdot lead in..cuz if you want to play that I am gonna be right here pointing out your words are troll lead ins you dig? Sure you do otherwise you wouldn't play that victim shtick so quickly before a lead in for Tdot.. clumsy...hey get Godzilla and have all 3 of you respond. I welcome it.

I have addressed your words. I did not tell you what you can or can not say. We already did this dance with the Godzilla and Tdot lead ins and the victim shtick there. Save it. The victim shtick is tiring. The Tdot lead ins clumsy. You want to play lead in for tdot no one will stop you. Not me. I just challenge your words and how you are inciting fear with them.

No it wasn't clear..it is now... thank you..point taken, acknowledged and welcomed.

If this is another attempt to debate...by telling people to be frightened..no wait.. be astonished as you couch it...I say run along. Your words incite fear and anti US script... The world has faced and will always face issues as to health. That ain't new. The type of virus maybe new but not the issues they raise. The challenge is getting messages like yours to phack off exploiting fear and acting righteous by suggesting if exploit fear it makes you less self centered. You use the virus for a political agenda...state what it is...

People were doing that before and will be doing it long after this issue moves to the next. You engage in panic porn...classic pollyanna incitement of hysteria bull shit. Here let me say it again, I think you engage in pollyanna incitement. The tone sounds awful familiar..

Yah he did but that does not mean a damn thing. The difference between provincial and federal political parties of the same name or parties of the same name in different provinces is there for anyone to see. Further the use of the name Liberal or Conservative for political parties does not make those parties liberal or conservative the position of their policies might. Come on. Murphy is like anyone else, a mix of many ideologies.